Bumblin' B's

[susiddad]

Glad to see Maryville gets in again based on reputation and the strength of having one nice win all year.  We at SU are going to schedule piedmont 5 times next year.

[bballlover]

Piedmont might not be the pushover you think they are. Just ask Centre.

[scottiedoug]

OK susidad if you'd rather play Piedmont after beating VAWesleyan and Hampden-Sidney and Maryville, I am sure that could be arranged.  You are fortunate to be in an area with lots of D3 scheduling options.

[oldchap]

To you, Boal, The Wiz, I'm sorry Chapman didn't make it. It was a huge mountain to climb for the committee, and judging by the heat of this thread, they probably didn't want to do something that may have appeared controversial (although they did last year by not picking Chapman, but got off way too easy). I hope the coach has better plans for next year in regards to the schedule. With 5 returning starters and some very fine freshmen/sophomores coming off the bench, Chapman will be even better. And finally, let's hope players can focus for the entire season and don't lose any game they shouldn't lose (unlike Conference teams - à la Whithworth - which may trip and fall during the season, but can focus all their energy on the last game).

As for all of you Ralph, scottiedoug, Pat, Oxybob and others, please throw some love towards Chapman. It would be nice if sometimes you'd look at the glass half full, not half empty. It may not change anything, but it sure will make us, hard core fan feel better.

A special thanks to you, pabegg: your objectivity and "professionalism" is a breath of fresh air.

Good luck to Claremont. They beat Whitworth once, they should beat them again. Chapman would have loved to have another shot at Whitworth. This year's game and Chapman's win last year, had them convinced they could beat them again.

One more thing: good luck to Maryville. You have no idea how precious it is to have been handed this last Pool B spot. You are, in some ways, representing Chapman's colors. Make a run in the playoffs. I'm rooting for you.

I shall be back in a few month, when season starts again. I'm gonna miss you all. Over and out.

[Ralph Turner]

To you, Boal, The Wiz, I'm sorry Chapman didn't make it. It was a huge mountain to climb for the committee, and judging by the heat of this thread, they probably didn't want to do something that may have appeared controversial (although they did last year by not picking Chapman, but got off way too easy). I hope the coach has better plans for next year in regards to the schedule. With 5 returning starters and some very fine freshmen/sophomores coming off the bench, Chapman will be even better. And finally, let's hope players can focus for the entire season and don't lose any game they shouldn't lose (unlike Conference teams - à la Whithworth - which may trip and fall during the season, but can focus all their energy on the last game).

As for all of you Ralph, scottiedoug, Pat, Oxybob and others, please throw some love towards Chapman. I would be nice if sometimes you'd look at the glass half full, not half empty. It may not change anything, but it sure will make us, hard core fan feel better.

One more thing: good luck to Claremont. They beat Whitworth once, they should beat them again. Chapman would have loved to have another shot at Whitworth. This year's game and Chapman's win last year, had them convinced they could beat them again.

I shall be back in a few month, when season starts again. I'm gonna miss you all. Over and out.

Chapman, we at McMurry are throwing love towards you   ...  in baseball.

We have gone home-and-home with you guys for several years.

Pat made some great comments about Chapman.

Do the Cactus Jam in Phoenix. 

McMurry went Vegas this year and got an in-region game.  Get two in-region games from a trip to Vegas

There are five "unique" chances for in-region opponents that are different from the West Coast usual suspects.

[The Wiz]

Besides the Cactus Jam, are there any more tournaments that allow for more West region match-ups?

[susiddad]

Is Maryville playing Piedmont in the first round?

[Dave 'd-mac' McHugh]

For the love of God... there is no PRE-SEASON!!! It is out-of-conference play. If it was pre-season, the games wouldn't count!!!

Your wrong! Couldn't disagree with you more! Are you trying to tell me when Claremont played Chapman the first game of the year and loss, that wasn't apart of their pre-season? When you are in a league, you can erase your games before league (pre-season) by doing well in your league! For independents, losing to a in region D-3 game as the first game of the year will haunt you because you can't redeem yourself in a league. It doesn't matter if they are out of conference, the D-3 games still count for your in region record/OWP! So once again I say...YOUR WRONG!

Wiz... did the game count as in-region game? Even if it was the first game of the season? Yes. The game counted so it can't be considered pre-season. Pre-season is exhibition games that don't count toward anything. Claremont vs. Chapman counted. You can't erase those games if you want a Pool C opportunity. Just because you are a school in a conference with an automatic qualified doesn't mean those games don't count for you if you don't get the AQ. CMS didn't have to worry about that this season, but if they had to be on the board for a Pool C bid... that game counted. Thus... not pre-season!

So... I say... YOUR WRONG!

[scottiedoug]

susiddad you really ought to think about how some schools get the reputation as the home of jerks and others do not.

[The Wiz]

But, they did win so they didn't have to worry about it. Back to my point about three seasons in one! You can redeem a lost by winning an AQ!

So once again I say, YOUR WRONG!

[Dave 'd-mac' McHugh]

Wiz... I will base this on one simple thing: did the game count and was it played during the official NCAA season? If so... it isn't considered pre-season. It was and so it isn't a pre-season game. Come on, Wiz!

"a prefix occurring originally in loanwords from Latin, where it meant "before" (preclude; prevent); applied freely as a prefix, with the meanings "prior to," "in advance of," "early," "beforehand," "before," "in front of," and with other figurative meanings (preschool; prewar; prepay: preoral; prefrontal)."

Thus... PRE-season... BEFORE-season... PRIOR TO-season... I could go on.

[Ralph Turner]

Besides the Cactus Jam, are there any more tournaments that allow for more West region match-ups?

Wiz, there are sports travel companies that arrange these tourneys all over the country.The coaches associations know which companies are best for the various needs.

[The Wiz]

What your failing to get is the fact that teams in a league can get a chance to redeem a loss in league play. As an independent, they don't have the same luxury. Therefore the word "pre-season" applies to "pre-league play". Is that better for you to understand since the word pre-season is throwing you for a loop?

[The Wiz]

Besides the Cactus Jam, are there any more tournaments that allow for more West region match-ups?

Wiz, there are sports travel companies that arrange these tourneys all over the country.The coaches associations know which companies are best for the various needs.

Thank you. Hopefully Chapman will invest sometime into speaking with such companies.

[Just Bill]

What your failing to get is the fact that teams in a league can get a chance to redeem a loss in league play. As an independent, they don't have the same luxury. Therefore the word "pre-season" applies to "pre-league play". Is that better for you to understand since the word pre-season is throwing you for a loop?

It's a silly argument because it's just semantics, but you are using the term Pre-season incorrectly.  Pre-season is those four silly games the NFL has before the season starts.  College basketball doesn't have pre-season games. They have non-conference games, conference games and postseason games.

But by now, we get what you mean, so we can we drop it and move along?