Bumblin' B's

[smedindy]

The undergraduate enrollment argument is rather silly.

You are correct that argument is silly in itself. In Chapman's case, however, not only has its student population grown substantially, but they have athletics aspirations beyond D-III, which is inconsistent with the SCIAC. I should have been clearer.

D-1? Yikes, there are way too many running around right now that have no business in D-1.

If they were content in D-3 would the SCIAC want them? Or would they find another excuse?

[smedindy]

BTW - Looking at Chapman's stats, they fail the 'statistical integrity test'.

Almost every game has unbalanced minutes - and way too many dead ball rebounds (and no team rebounds).

C'mon - how hard is it to balance a box score?

[Pat Coleman]

Why has CU and Oxy not play this year? Probably a matter of not finding a date that fits for both teams. It happens, no one is ducking anybody, everyone just relax.

Thanks for a little voice of reason!

[Gray Fox]

Why has CU and Oxy not play this year? Probably a matter of not finding a date that fits for both teams. It happens, no one is ducking anybody, everyone just relax.

Thanks for a little voice of reason!

The Chapman guys have complained on three boards, this one and two in the west.  They won't buy that logic.

[dahlby]

Guess what? I still don't buy it. Ask the Oxy coach why they don't schedule Chapman. I have mentioned this several times, but I guess someone (s) fears the answer.

Regarding OxyBob's comments regarding Chapman's other division aspirations, I have commented on this several times that there are no other intentions at this time or in the near future. It is not something that the admin has discussed.

I suggest that some posters do a little homework before throwing out comments, or at least state "in your opinion" and list your reasoning. An example of this would be CU and Oxy not being able to find a convenient date. Sounds good, but way off, way, way off.

[OxyBob]

Guess what? I still don't buy it. Ask the Oxy coach why they don't schedule Chapman. I have mentioned this several times, but I guess someone (s) fears the answer.

I could only find results back to the 1996-1997 season.

1996 DNP
1997 DNP
1998 Oxy 71 Chapman 45
1999 Chapman 70 Oxy 63
2000 Chapman 63 Oxy 59
2001 Oxy 68 Chapman 52
2002 Oxy 80 Chapman 64
2003 Oxy 62 Chapman 60
2004 DNP
2005 Oxy 65 Chapman 60
2006 Oxy 67 Chapman 62
2007 Oxy 69 Chapman 45
2008 Chapman 61 Oxy 46
2009 DNP

Now take your "Ask the Oxy coach why they don't schedule Chapman" and blow it out your ass.

Regarding OxyBob's comments regarding Chapman's other division aspirations, I have commented on this several times that there are no other intentions at this time or in the near future. It is not something that the admin has discussed.

A head coach of one of Chapman's 18 varsity teams told me to my face that Chapman wanted to move up from D-III. So either he was lying or he didn't know what he was talking about. Which was it?

OxyBob

[dahlby]

OxyBob, my information comes from higher up than a coach. I don't call anyone a liar, but there may be some confusion by the coach that you talked with.

Regarding your "class-less" scheduling remark, I was referring to the fact that Oxy would not schedule Chapman this year. Now OxyBob, go ask your coach what the problem was.

By the way, I am still hoping Oxy wins the SCIAC Tourney and that CU gets a post season bid, if only to put the debate to rest!!!

Cheers, and settle down. You need to watch your blood pressure so early in the morning!

[CrashDavisD3]

Once a year or not a all in the past Chapman vs OXY.

Hey I am sure Chapman would love to play OXY 2/3 times a year to replace some of the teams they presently play.

Maybe budgets/travel costs of playing teams not in the area may force the issue in future years.

It has already had a major impact in SOCAL D1 baseball where more games are with local teams and less with teams outside the immediate area.

[sac]

still?

[gordonmann]

Justin Riley, forward for No. 13 Chapman, has been blogging for D3hoops.com throughout the Panthers' season.  His latest post covers this very subject - scheduling difficulties.

http://d3blogs.com/d3hoops/category/insider/justin-riley/

[toooldtoplay]

Thanks for the link. It is great to hear what the players think and is food for thought. Independents always have a rough road January and February and unless they can develop a very high level program consistently (like Notre Dame in football??) it will not change. Justin - keep up the good work. You are a pleasure to read.

[oldchap]

Justin Riley, forward for No. 13 Chapman, has been blogging for D3hoops.com throughout the Panthers' season.  His latest post covers this very subject - scheduling difficulties.

http://d3blogs.com/d3hoops/category/insider/justin-riley/

Justin,

I know you're reading this and let me say that I found the last entry to your blog nicely developed and eloquent. It is firm, to the point, without ever being shrill, apologetic or vindictive. It should be an inspiration for the Panthers to excel in the post season this year, if only to quiet the critics but also to give the Chapman's men basketball team the respect they deserve. Keep up the good work on and off the court!

[Ralph Turner]

Piedmont beat Maryville 80-78 OT at home.  They lead the GSAC 3-0 after the first half of the season.

[OxyBob]

Justin Riley, forward for No. 13 Chapman, has been blogging for D3hoops.com throughout the Panthers' season.  His latest post covers this very subject - scheduling difficulties.

Speaking of scheduling difficulties, last night Chapman got its second win in a week over 2-18 Southwestern College, a lousy NCCAA-II team. Another feather in Chapman's cap! No doubt the D3hoops Top 25 voters will move Chapman farther up in the rankings for those sterling wins. Coming up on Feb. 6: Chapman's third game in a month against 4-16 La Sierra. Too bad the D-III Independents Postseason Tournament was canceled this year, or Chapman would have played La Sierra a fourth time.

OxyBob

[scottiedoug]

I do not want to pile on here about Chapman's scheduling issues but I do wonder why they get so much love in the national rankings.