Bumblin' B's

Pat Coleman · February 04, 2006, 02:47:34 PM

Alright, I got sidetracked from posting these yesterday but they are indeed accurate going into Friday's games.

The QOWI through games of Thursday, Feb., 2:

1-10
Augustana    11.765
Lawrence    11.600
Worcester Polytech    11.556
Occidental    11.444
Cortland State    11.412
Amherst    11.235
Wittenberg    11.067
St. John Fisher    11.000
Carnegie Mellon    11.000
York (Pa.)    10.941

11-20
Fisk    10.900
Mississippi College    10.824
Illinois Wesleyan    10.786
Trinity (Texas)    10.667
Tufts    10.667
Baruch    10.611
Wooster    10.563
New York University    10.529
Hope    10.500
Bates    10.471

21-30
Lincoln    10.467
Baldwin-Wallace    10.444
Transylvania    10.421
Gordon    10.412
UW-La Crosse    10.400
Washington U.    10.333
William Paterson    10.278
Wartburg    10.235
Albion    10.222
North Central    10.077

31-40
UW-Stout    10.063
Keene State    10.059
Williams    10.056
Virginia Wesleyan    10.050
Catholic    10.000
Carroll    10.000
Howard Payne    9.941
Maryville (Tenn.)    9.889
Trinity (Conn.)    9.857
Willamette    9.846

41-50
Puget Sound    9.833
Endicott    9.813
Hanover    9.800
Johns Hopkins    9.750
Randolph-Macon    9.722
Calvin    9.714
MIT    9.706
Plymouth State    9.700
Southwestern    9.667
St. Thomas    9.667

51-60
Lake Erie    9.643
New Jersey    9.625
Alvernia    9.588
Carleton    9.563
Utica    9.563
Salem State    9.556
UW-Whitewater    9.533
Rhode Island College    9.526
Averett    9.500
Widener    9.500

61-70
Richard Stockton    9.471
Westfield State    9.444
UW-Oshkosh    9.412
SUNY-Farmingdale    9.400
Lakeland    9.389
Ursinus    9.389
Albright    9.375
Norwich    9.375
Coe    9.357
Rochester    9.357

71-80
Elizabethtown    9.353
Nebraska Wesleyan    9.333
Elmhurst    9.313
Mary Hardin-Baylor    9.294
Wheaton (Mass.)    9.278
Christopher Newport    9.250
Franklin    9.235
Milwaukee Engineering    9.235
Rutgers-Newark    9.211
Loras    9.188

81-90
Oswego State    9.176
New Jersey City    9.167
Bluffton    9.154
Whitworth    9.125
Messiah    9.118
Chicago    9.077
Brockport State    9.071
Hamilton    9.071
Wilkes    9.071
Coast Guard    9.056

91-100
Muskingum    9.000
Mount St. Mary    9.000
McMurry    9.000
Brandeis    8.944
UW-Stevens Point    8.941
Plattsburgh State    8.933
Mary Washington    8.917
Pomona-Pitzer    8.900
Mass-Boston    8.882
Bowdoin    8.875

njlincolnlion · February 04, 2006, 10:42:45 PM

David Collinge:

Yes Lincoln University in Pennsylvania is a HBCU founded in 1854, as the nation's oldest HBCU founded for the purposes of educating men of African descent.

Aside from Langston Hughes, Thurgood Marshall, Actor Roscoe Lee Browne (and former world record holder in the 880), Nnamdi Azikiwe (First President of Nigeria), Kwame Nkrumah (First President of Ghana), Horace Mann Bond, (Father of Julian Bond) are just a few notable alumns.

Monte Irvin (Negro Major league and former New York Giant Baseball player), and Cab Calloway attended Lincoln, but did not graduate.

Lincoln, like Rust College, is a D3 independent school, whose track & Field teams has won 16 NCAA championships. Lincoln won the 1923 & 1924 CIAA Football championships when the university sponsored the sport. You can find out more about Lincon on it website www.lincoln.edu .

wilburt · February 05, 2006, 08:19:13 AM

David Collinge and njlincolnlion:

Interesting that Julian Bond's father went to Lincoln, but his mother Julia Washington Bond is a Fisk alumna (Class of 1929). He is named for his mother. Plus, Horace Bond was a professor at Fisk at one time. Small world.

Proud history that Lincoln has...

Pat Coleman · February 05, 2006, 08:59:38 AM

Surprised Lincoln and Fisk and Rust don't play each other, esp. with Lincoln's propensity to travel and the latter's lack of D-III opponents.

gordonmann · February 05, 2006, 10:56:55 AM

Speaking of Lincoln...

D3hoopsNet will broadcast Monday night's game between the No. 22 Lincoln Lions and the Richard Stockton Ospreys.

This will be Lincoln's last chance to notch a regional win, at least until the Independent Tournament. Meanwhile Richard Stockton will try to keep the momentum going for their final push in the NJAC race.

Pregame coverage begins at 7:50 PM with tip-off at 8 PM on www.bcmonsters.com.

scottiedoug · February 05, 2006, 01:49:21 PM

Fisk and Rust play each other home and home this year...Fisk won the first one, at Rust.

Pat Coleman · February 05, 2006, 01:55:36 PM

I am fully aware of that. However, neither of them plays Lincoln, which was my point.

David Collinge · February 05, 2006, 01:58:07 PM

Fisk (Nashville) and Rust (Holly Springs) aren't all that far apart; in fact, it'd be a beautiful daytime bus ride if they went the most direct route, through the Tennessee Valley. I would think they'd want to play each other every year.

Ralph Turner · February 05, 2006, 04:58:12 PM

Quote from: David Collinge on February 05, 2006, 01:58:07 PM
Fisk (Nashville) and Rust (Holly Springs) aren't all that far apart; in fact, it'd be a beautiful daytime bus ride if they went the most direct route, through the Tennessee Valley. I would think they'd want to play each other every year.

But driving from Nashville to Memphis is another 3 hours farther west.

What makes sense to me is to have a D3 Tourney with sponsors in Nashville with Rust, Lincoln and Fisk. Lincoln gets 2 D3 opponents in one fell swoop.

David Collinge · February 05, 2006, 05:17:55 PM

Quote from: Ralph Turner on February 05, 2006, 04:58:12 PM
Quote from: David Collinge on February 05, 2006, 01:58:07 PM
Fisk (Nashville) and Rust (Holly Springs) aren't all that far apart; in fact, it'd be a beautiful daytime bus ride if they went the most direct route, through the Tennessee Valley. I would think they'd want to play each other every year.

But driving from Nashville to Memphis is another 3 hours farther west.

What makes sense to me is to have a D3 Tourney with sponsors in Nashville with Rust, Lincoln and Fisk. Lincoln gets 2 D3 opponents in one fell swoop.

I'm not following you, Ralph. Holly Springs is near Memphis; about 45 miles southeast, in north central Mississippi. Nashville to Holly Springs, the direct way, would be southwest about 3 hours, maybe more. You could even take the Natchez Trace most of the way if you were so inclined (although that would take longer, and probably buses are not permitted.)

I figured you of all regular posters would agree that 3 hours is not a long bus ride.

Did you have a fourth team in mind for your Fisk-hosted tournament? Should they invite Tennessee State, with whom Fisk has a cross-town rivalry? Or maybe they should hold it in Memphis and invite LeMoyne-Owen, D3's first national champion, for old times' sake? (Or Rhodes, for that matter; who says it has to be HBCU-only?)

Pat Coleman · February 05, 2006, 05:48:39 PM

University of Dallas, for the sake of helping out a fellow independent.

Ralph Turner · February 05, 2006, 07:50:43 PM

Quote from: David Collinge on February 05, 2006, 05:17:55 PM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on February 05, 2006, 04:58:12 PM
Quote from: David Collinge on February 05, 2006, 01:58:07 PM
Fisk (Nashville) and Rust (Holly Springs) aren't all that far apart; in fact, it'd be a beautiful daytime bus ride if they went the most direct route, through the Tennessee Valley. I would think they'd want to play each other every year.

But driving from Nashville to Memphis is another 3 hours farther west.

What makes sense to me is to have a D3 Tourney with sponsors in Nashville with Rust, Lincoln and Fisk. Lincoln gets 2 D3 opponents in one fell swoop.

I'm not following you, Ralph. Holly Springs is near Memphis; about 45 miles southeast, in north central Mississippi. Nashville to Holly Springs, the direct way, would be southwest about 3 hours, maybe more. You could even take the Natchez Trace most of the way if you were so inclined (although that would take longer, and probably buses are not permitted.)

I figured you of all regular posters would agree that 3 hours is not a long bus ride.

Did you have a fourth team in mind for your Fisk-hosted tournament? Should they invite Tennessee State, with whom Fisk has a cross-town rivalry? Or maybe they should hold it in Memphis and invite LeMoyne-Owen, D3's first national champion, for old times' sake?...

David, I was thinking about how far Lincoln would have to travel with respect to school. All of Lincoln's traveling seems to be up the Atlantic seaboard, and relatively close to school.

They are about 11 hours away from Nashville, but another trip to Holly Springs would make it 14 hours back to Lincoln. Now if you're are flying, either Memphis or Nashville would work.

Pat Coleman is right about UDallas as being a good 4th.

wilburt · February 06, 2006, 09:11:25 AM

Quote from: Pat Coleman on February 05, 2006, 08:59:38 AM
Surprised Lincoln and Fisk and Rust don't play each other, esp. with Lincoln's propensity to travel and the latter's lack of D-III opponents.

Pat they (Fisk and Lincoln) played each other about 3 years ago or so in a tourney near Philly. Fisk won that game, but would have difficulty repeating that feat today.

But Fisk did play several other HBCUs this year (Tennessee State, Wilberforce, Oakwood, Knoxville and Rust).

scottiedoug · February 06, 2006, 04:43:48 PM

Well Pat there is no reason to get huffy ("I am fully aware of that. However, neither of them plays Lincoln, which was my point.") You usually are quite clear and precise about what you mean. Less so this time, I think.

njlincolnlion · February 06, 2006, 10:23:39 PM

Lincoln defeats Richard Stockton 91-69 tonight. This was the second win of the season over the Richard Stockton Ospreys for the Lions who are 20-4 on the season now.

Thank you Gordon Mann for broadcasting tonights game from Manuel Rivero Hall and I look forward to you doing many future games at Lincoln.