Bumblin' B's

[Boal]

Even on a bad day, an at-large team should still beat U.Dallas.

You should be able to beat U of Dallas on a bad night if you want to make the NCAA Tournament.

Rather than deflecting and trying to place blame elsewhere, let's look right back at a Chapman schedule which didn't give the team a chance if it lost more than two games.

BTW, Rust has a winning record. Dallas, not even close.

Wrong.  Bring any team to a neutral site and let their guards shoot 3-31 and see if they fair any better.  It was a poor shooting night, not a show of how good or bad the team is overall.  

With that kind of logic no upsets would ever happen in college basketball.  That's why you play the game, sometimes the ball goes in and sometimes it doesn't.  Following that argument would lead anyone to believe every at large team would beat every mediocre team in America.  Completely and utterly not true.

And Dallas would give Rust a run for their money, guaranteed.  Since we're all so big on SOS here, Dallas has a better SOS and that could very well be why they are 9-18.  If they played Rust's schedule who knows?!  Maybe they would do better than 13-11.

[Pat Coleman]

Even on a bad day, an at-large team should still beat U.Dallas.

You should be able to beat U of Dallas on a bad night if you want to make the NCAA Tournament.

Rather than deflecting and trying to place blame elsewhere, let's look right back at a Chapman schedule which didn't give the team a chance if it lost more than two games.

BTW, Rust has a winning record. Dallas, not even close.

Wrong.  Bring any team to a neutral site and let their guards shoot 3-31 and see if they fair any better.  It was a poor shooting night, not a show of how good or bad the team is overall.

Doesn't matter. You gotta win that game. I'm sorry.

[sac]

This has got to be the longest running conversation about a Pool B team ever.

[Boal]

This has got to be the longest running conversation about a Pool B team ever.

It's the longest I've seen in the past 3 years, but I think that's because there is such a split between people who believe Chapman is better than Maryville and people who think one game should keep a great team out of the playoffs.

[Ralph Turner]

This has got to be the longest running conversation about a Pool B team ever.

It's the longest I've seen in the past 3 years, but I think that's because there is such a split between people who believe Chapman is better than Maryville and people who think one game should keep a great team out of the playoffs.

Well we McMurry fans saw a heart-breaking loss to arch-rival Mississippi College yesterday.  Tied at 80 with 21 seconds left.  MC hit 2 FT's. It was over!  Final 85-80!

I hope that one game doesn't keep McMurry out of the playoffs!   

[scottiedoug]

Just to be clear.  I think Rust is a good team...I saw them at Maryville...and I know that they are tough in their own gym.  My point was not to be disrespectful of Rust. 

[ronk]

  Are Maryville men a Pool B because their GSAC only has 4 teams, but the women are Pool A because they have 7 teams? I was surprised to see the women in the NCAA projection when they weren't one of the 3 Pool B selections.

[Ralph Turner]

  Are Maryville men a Pool B because their GSAC only has 4 teams, but the women are Pool A because they have 7 teams? I was surprised to see the women in the NCAA projection when they weren't one of the 3 Pool B selections.

Yes.

The GSAC became a Pool A (Women's) conference about 3 years ago.

[RustCollege]

U Dallas couldn't beat rust on a bad nite

Even on a bad day, an at-large team should still beat U.Dallas.

You should be able to beat U of Dallas on a bad night if you want to make the NCAA Tournament.

Rather than deflecting and trying to place blame elsewhere, let's look right back at a Chapman schedule which didn't give the team a chance if it lost more than two games.

BTW, Rust has a winning record. Dallas, not even close.

Wrong.  Bring any team to a neutral site and let their guards shoot 3-31 and see if they fair any better.  It was a poor shooting night, not a show of how good or bad the team is overall.  

With that kind of logic no upsets would ever happen in college basketball.  That's why you play the game, sometimes the ball goes in and sometimes it doesn't.  Following that argument would lead anyone to believe every at large team would beat every mediocre team in America.  Completely and utterly not true.

And Dallas would give Rust a run for their money, guaranteed.  Since we're all so big on SOS here, Dallas has a better SOS and that could very well be why they are 9-18.  If they played Rust's schedule who knows?!  Maybe they would do better than 13-11.

[RustCollege]

Rust tryed 2 play them but they won't play rust 4 sum reason

U Dallas couldn't beat rust on a bad nite

Even on a bad day, an at-large team should still beat U.Dallas.

You should be able to beat U of Dallas on a bad night if you want to make the NCAA Tournament.

Rather than deflecting and trying to place blame elsewhere, let's look right back at a Chapman schedule which didn't give the team a chance if it lost more than two games.

BTW, Rust has a winning record. Dallas, not even close.

Wrong.  Bring any team to a neutral site and let their guards shoot 3-31 and see if they fair any better.  It was a poor shooting night, not a show of how good or bad the team is overall.  

With that kind of logic no upsets would ever happen in college basketball.  That's why you play the game, sometimes the ball goes in and sometimes it doesn't.  Following that argument would lead anyone to believe every at large team would beat every mediocre team in America.  Completely and utterly not true.

And Dallas would give Rust a run for their money, guaranteed.  Since we're all so big on SOS here, Dallas has a better SOS and that could very well be why they are 9-18.  If they played Rust's schedule who knows?!  Maybe they would do better than 13-11.

[RustCollege]

MC and Chapman r both good but both need 2 go

[scottiedoug]

VA Wesleyan, who Maryville beat, has won the ODAC tournament. 

There are a lot of reasons I can think of why some schools will not play Rust.  One of them is that they are hard to beat in Holly Springs.  I wish more D3 schools would schedule Rust.

[Boal]

My hope is that the committee sees Maryville's 1-3 (or 1-4) regionally ranked record and that tells them they can't compete with upper eschelon teams, but Chapman's 1-1 with the loss to Whitworth (who beat undefeated Puget Sound) shows they can be competitive and make a push in the playoffs.

[Former Player/ Former Coach]

I have to side with Pat on this one!!! I follow chapman as I live here in so. cal, but until the upgrade their schedule, they need to go pretty much undefeated in regional games, to get a bid.  Its pretty simple how to improve the situation, look at what the girls do.  They must have a pretty good formula.  Trips to the northwest almost every year.  Lewis & Clark have a tournament in oakland, whitworth played games in hawaii and there is the cactus jam.  Do the math, if you only play the sciac, 1/2 of your games will be against teams that end up with a losing record......then add la sierra, ucsc and udallas. they all have had losing records the past 7 or 8 years.  AT SOME POINT, you have to try and stop repeating history........this conversation happens every year with the same result.  Chapman has had some great teams.....some 20 points better than this one and they didn't get in.  Look it up, Pat will agree. They had chapman in the tournament before and the committee thought otherwise.  Don't come down on him for speaking the truth. I'm Out.

[The Wiz]

It is simple, Chapman doesn't get much respect and that is that. If Chapman wins games by playing a weaker schedule, they will be blamed for scheduling weak teams. if they schedule good teams, and lose, they will be looked at as not being very good. It is clear some people don't want to answer question, by dismissing them with saying "Doesn't matter. You gotta win the game". If Chapman makes it what surprise, if they don't, it won't be anything new. Unless Chapman goes undefeated, they will never have a chance. Let's hope they can join a league sometime in the next 5-10 years to have a chance. I am done arguing the point, the results will be out Monday. If Maryville goes, good luck to them. But if history repeats itself and they end up like Morovian did last year, I will question the committee's selection process. Best of luck to whoever makes it.