Bumblin' B's

[scottiedoug]

Since it appears that most of the potential B's are going to become eligible to go to the tournament as A's in a few years, can you smart people figure out how to reshuffle southern/southeastern conferences so the GSAC and Rust can get into A conferences?  On the other hand, if all B's except GSAC and Rust are no longer B's, then the GSAC + Rust will become a default A conference posing as Bumblers.  Right?

[Ralph Turner]

Since it appears that most of the potential B's are going to become eligible to go to the tournament as A's in a few years, can you smart people figure out how to reshuffle southern/southeastern conferences so the GSAC and Rust can get into A conferences?  On the other hand, if all B's except GSAC and Rust are no longer B's, then the GSAC + Rust will become a default A conference posing as Bumblers.  Right?

I think that Maryville vs Chapman becomes the perennial question.

Berry and Covenant are in the exploratory year to become D-III.

Are there any other teams in the South that are looking at D-III?

[oldchap]

Since it appears that most of the potential B's are going to become eligible to go to the tournament as A's in a few years, can you smart people figure out how to reshuffle southern/southeastern conferences so the GSAC and Rust can get into A conferences?  On the other hand, if all B's except GSAC and Rust are no longer B's, then the GSAC + Rust will become a default A conference posing as Bumblers.  Right?

Once the number of teams in Pool B drops below 10, there won't be any more problems or discussions because the number of teams eligible for Pool B will be 0 (rounded down, of course)...   

[Pat Coleman]

It's with sadness that I have to report the death of Patrick Abegg. We will miss him.
http://d3blogs.com/d3hoops/2009/04/26/rip-patrick-abegg/

[Ralph Turner]

It's with sadness that I have to report the death of Patrick Abegg. We will miss him.
http://d3blogs.com/d3hoops/2009/04/26/rip-patrick-abegg/

R.I.P.

[Ralph Turner]

The GSAC announces an affiliation agreement with the USA South for 2010-11.

http://www.thedailytimes.com/article/20090528/SPORTS/305289987

Here is the projection for 2010-11 for the Bumblin' B's.

Northeast Region: 1 --  U Maine Presque Isle (New England Collegiate Conference  (8 teams including new member Mitchell) has gone to Pool A...  NECC.)  

East Region: 0

Atlantic Region: 0

Mid-Atlantic Region:  1 -- Lancaster Bible is in its first year as a full member.  There are several conferences that might invite them to join in the next 15 months.

South Region:  1 --  Rust.  (UDallas is now an affiliate of the NEAC, but this may a tenuous relationship, and only valid as long as the NEAC needs UDallas as an affilliate to maintain Pool A.)  The GSAC-4 men have affiliated with the USA South.

Great Lakes:  1 -- Finlandia

Midwest Region:  0

West Region:  4 (or 5) -- Neb Wesleyan; UC Santa Cruz Banana Slugs; Chapman, LaSierra in its first year as a full member.  (This is the first year (2008-09) as a new conference for the UMAC in Pool A.)  EDIT: North Central MN, if they complete the provisional process and do not join UMAC.  North Central had to repeat year #3 of the provisional status in 2008-09. Thanks to Hickory Cornhusker.

"The Provisional Pipeline" will contains 8 schools in current years #1 #2 of the provisional status, but 2 are not affiliated with a Conference.

I count 8 (or 9) schools in Pool B.  That should mean 0 Pool B bids.  We can see how that Championships committee deals with this.

[hickory_cornhusker]

North Central MN should also be listed as a Pool B team in the West Region in 2011 unless they join the Upper Midwest Athletic Conference in all spots by that time. They already have joined for golf, tennis and (I think) cross country. That's still 9 teams and may be 0 Pool B's. I don't remember what the access ratio for Pool A's in basketball is or will be by 2011 but usually the number in most sports is around 9.

[Ralph Turner]

The Handbook has not been released yet.

However, I think that we are looking at 3 Pool B bids this season, prior to the NECC and the UMAC getting their Pool A bids.

The GSAC-USA South merger is off for now, but Shenandoah has declared for football in the ODAC in the near future.

http://www.d3boards.com/index.php?topic=4195.msg1106221#msg1106221

We may be looking at 1 Pool B bid in 2010-11.

[KnightSlappy]

The Handbook has not been released yet.

However, I think that we are looking at 3 Pool B bids this season, prior to the NECC and the UMAC getting their Pool A bids.

The GSAC-USA South merger is off for now, but Shenandoah has declared for football in the ODAC in the near future.

http://www.d3boards.com/index.php?topic=4195.msg1106221#msg1106221

We may be looking at 1 Pool B bid in 2010-11.

The 2010 handbook has been released, 40 pool A, 2 pool B, 19 pool C.

http://web1.ncaa.org/web_files/champ_handbooks/basketball/2010/10_3_mbasketball.pdf

One extra Pool B team would have yielded an extra Pool B bid.

[Ralph Turner]

At first glance, the Handbook looks like it is the "cleanest" that we have seen since I don't know when.

They need to add Wells College to the NEAC East Region.

They have not designated Menlo as competing as NAIA (?).  They have Nebraska Wesleyan as D-III.

They have correctly designated the reclassifying schools:  Lincoln PA, Maryville MO and CSU East Bay.

They have the multi-region members in the AMCC, the LAND, the NEAC, the SCAC and the UAA designated in the correct regions.

Fortunately, Finlandia has sought to be assigned to the West Region.

The provisional members seem to be correctly assigned to regions and conference.

[Ralph Turner]

Pool B's in 2010-11 (if the UMAC and the NECC earn Pool A status):

Atlantic -- (0)
East --  (0)
Great Lakes -- (0)
Mid-Atlantic -- (1)  Lancaster Bible
Midwest  -- (0)
Northeast Region -- (1)  UMPI
South -- (5) GSAC-4,  Rust
West -- (5) Chapman,  Finlandia, Menlo, Neb Wesleyan, North Central MN

Lancaster Bible and North Central MN should become full members in 2010.

We could have as many as 12 Pool B teams in 2010.  Five schools become new members in 2010-11, so we might get a 62nd bid.

[David Collinge]

These remaining indies need to give it up and just form a conference.  I'd love to see a conference with both UMPI and Chapman in it. 

[Mr. Ypsi]

These remaining indies need to give it up and just form a conference.  I'd love to see a conference with both UMPI and Chapman in it. 

Might happen, IF you cover the travel costs!

[oldchap]

Here is a list of Pool B school with their corresponding conferences and overall record. Let me know if I'm missing anything. I will later add their regional record:

1. Chapman University <IND> 8-1
2. Maryville College (Tennessee) <GSAC> 7-1
3. Elms College <NECC> 6-2
4. Wheelock College <NECC> 5-2
5. Presentation College <UMAC> 3-2
6. Piedmont College <GSAC> 4-3
7. Daniel Webster College <NECC> 4-4
   Menlo College <IND> 4-4
9. Northwestern College <UMAC> 4-5
   Southern Vermont College <NECC> 4-5
11. Becker College <NECC> 3-5
     Finlandia University <IND> 3-5
     University of Minnesota-Morris <UMAC> 3-5
     Nebraska Wesleyan University <IND> 3-5
15. Rust College <IND> 4-4
16. Huntingdon College <GSAC> 2-4
17. Newbury College <NECC> 2-5
     Northland College <UMAC> 2-5
19. Lesley University <NECC> 3-8
20. LaGrange College <GSAC> 2-6
21. Crown College (MN) <UMAC> 2-8
     University of California, Santa Cruz <IND> 2-8
23. Martin Luther College <UMAC> 1-5
24. College of St. Scholastica <UMAC> 1-7
     Mitchell College <NECC> 1-7
26. University of Maine, Presque Isle <IND> 0-5
     Bethany Lutheran <UMAC> 0-9

[sac]

Those interested in OWP and OOWP should read the section on strength of schedule.  For 2010 and 2011 they will be using a weighted average of 2/3 OWP and 1/3 OOWP.  I believe this is a fairly significant change from years passed if memory serves me correctly.