Bumblin' B's

[hickory_cornhusker]

You have to be a conference for two years before you can get the AQ. It was the same case for the Landmark Conference and the NAthCon a few years ago, they had the members but since they were a new conference there was a two year waiting period. NECC should be on board for a Pool A spot next year along with UMAC.

[scottiedoug]

Thank you, Hickory_cornhusker.

[Ralph Turner]

There appear to be 8 schools listed as NECC and Pool B.  Doesn't 7 get them an AQ?  (I am sure Ralph has explained this somewhere and I cannot remember or find it.)

NECC is in the second provisional year as a conference.

They should get the AQ next season.   

(Please remember how the Landmark Conference spent 2 years in Pool B.)

[Gregory Sager]

I think that Menlo is NAIA for hoops.

That's what I thought too, but it appears that the handbook lists them as a pool B member of the west region.

There are two dual-membership discrepancies. The D3 handbook lists both Maine-Presque Isle and Menlo as "declared" schools that are thus eligible to participate in the D3 tournament. However, the NAIA website lists both UMPI and Menlo as NAIA Division II "declared" schools that are thus eligible to play in the NAIA-2 tourney. You have to declare for one or the other; you can't declare for both. The NAIA-2 membership page is dated from this past September and duly notes that Nebraska Wesleyan is a non-participating member of NAIA-2 and that Covenant is a provisional member that is ineligible for NAIA-2 postseason play (because it's in the process of transferring to NCAA D3).

Either the D3 handbook or the NAIA website has it wrong with regard to UMPI and Menlo. Both have declared for the NAIA every year for as long as I can remember, and both are members of conferences in which every other member is NAIA-2 (not that that's an ironclad guarantee that they're NAIA loyalists, as Nebraska Wesleyan proves), so unless there is further proof to the contrary I'm inclined to think that the handbook is wrong and that UMPI and Menlo have declared for the NAIA-2 tourney.

Does declaring for the NAIA championships make you "non-DIII" and therefore the games do not count as in-region?

It doesn't make you non-D3, but whether or not it makes your games invalid for other D3 teams for primary-criteria purposes is another matter. As far as I can tell, there's no fixed rule about it anywhere in the handbook; my guess is that the roll call of participating schools is listed in the back of the handbook once dual members have made their declarations, and that this roster thereby becomes the list of schools that are used by the selection committee for primary-criteria purposes. But it does seem to be a gray area.

[Pat Coleman]

Did anyone else notice we have 61 teams in the field in MBB this year?

[Ralph Turner]

Pool B's in 2010-11 (if the UMAC and the NECC earn Pool A status):

Atlantic -- (0)
East --  (0)
Great Lakes -- (0)
Mid-Atlantic -- (1)  Lancaster Bible
Midwest  -- (0)
Northeast Region -- (1)  UMPI
South -- (5) GSAC-4,  Rust
West -- (5) Chapman,  Finlandia, Menlo, Neb Wesleyan, North Central MN

Lancaster Bible and North Central MN should become full members in 2010.

We could have as many as 12 Pool B teams in 2010. Five schools become new members in 2010-11, so we might get a 62nd bid.

Well, obtusely.    
I don't know if we will get one bid increase in consecutive years.

398 eligible teams in 2009-10 plus five prospective new members in 2010-11 = 403.

403 divided by 6.5 = exactly 62.

[Pat Coleman]

Right. But the increase from 60 to 61 didn't seem to make a ripple.

[magicman]

Did anyone else notice we have 61 teams in the field in MBB this year?

Quote from KnightSlappy on December 13th on page 114 of this board:

"The 2010 handbook has been released, 40 pool A, 2 pool B, 19 pool C."

[Pat Coleman]

Right, but no mention that it was an increased total.

[Mr. Ypsi]

Did anyone else notice we have 61 teams in the field in MBB this year?

Quote from KnightSlappy on December 13th on page 114 of this board:

"The 2010 handbook has been released, 40 pool A, 2 pool B, 19 pool C."

Right, but no mention that it was an increased total.

Are you implying that Knightslappy flunked arithmetic!

[hickory_cornhusker]

Did anyone else notice we have 61 teams in the field in MBB this year?

Quote from KnightSlappy on December 13th on page 114 of this board:

"The 2010 handbook has been released, 40 pool A, 2 pool B, 19 pool C."

Right, but no mention that it was an increased total.

Are you implying that Knightslappy flunked arithmetic!

Maybe we all flunked arithmetic because no one caught it.

[Mr. Ypsi]

Did anyone else notice we have 61 teams in the field in MBB this year?

Quote from KnightSlappy on December 13th on page 114 of this board:

"The 2010 handbook has been released, 40 pool A, 2 pool B, 19 pool C."

Right, but no mention that it was an increased total.

Are you implying that Knightslappy flunked arithmetic!

Maybe we all flunked arithmetic because no one caught it.

My excuse was senility, not bad arithmetic!

I forgot we weren't already at 61 last year!

[John Gleich]

Did anyone else notice we have 61 teams in the field in MBB this year?

Quote from KnightSlappy on December 13th on page 114 of this board:

"The 2010 handbook has been released, 40 pool A, 2 pool B, 19 pool C."

Right, but no mention that it was an increased total.

Are you implying that Knightslappy flunked arithmetic!

Maybe we all flunked arithmetic because no one caught it.

My excuse was senility, not bad arithmetic!

I forgot we weren't already at 61 last year!

My excuse is Mr. Ypsi's senility too!

[Mr. Ypsi]

Did anyone else notice we have 61 teams in the field in MBB this year?

Quote from KnightSlappy on December 13th on page 114 of this board:

"The 2010 handbook has been released, 40 pool A, 2 pool B, 19 pool C."

Right, but no mention that it was an increased total.

Are you implying that Knightslappy flunked arithmetic!

Maybe we all flunked arithmetic because no one caught it.

My excuse was senility, not bad arithmetic!

I forgot we weren't already at 61 last year!

My excuse is Mr. Ypsi's senility too!

Now, watch your manners, young-un.

The senile Mr. Ypsi is kickin' your sorry butt in pickems (so far, at least; of course he may forget to pick one of these weeks! ).

[Of course, so is everyone else. ]

[Hugenerd]

Are there two new conferences that will get Pool A bids next year, or just the NECC?  So will we stay at 19 Pool C next year or go down by 1 (with the increase to 62 teams)?