Bumblin' B's

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Mr. Ypsi

Quote from: hugenerd on December 17, 2009, 12:08:12 AM
Are there two new conferences that will get Pool A bids next year, or just the NECC?  So will we stay at 19 Pool C next year or go down by 1 (with the increase to 62 teams)?

My understanding is that there will be two new A's (NECC and UMAC?), but therefore one less B, leaving C's the same.  Anyone?

Hugenerd

Quote from: Mr. Ypsi on December 17, 2009, 12:41:27 AM
Quote from: hugenerd on December 17, 2009, 12:08:12 AM
Are there two new conferences that will get Pool A bids next year, or just the NECC?  So will we stay at 19 Pool C next year or go down by 1 (with the increase to 62 teams)?

My understanding is that there will be two new A's (NECC and UMAC?), but therefore one less B, leaving C's the same.  Anyone?

Ahh, I forgot about the decrease in the B's.  That makes sense.

Gregory Sager

Quote from: Pat Coleman on December 16, 2009, 08:53:35 PM
Right, but no mention that it was an increased total.

I noticed the increase when the dean of KnightSlappy U. made that announcement. I just didn't say anything. Based upon Ralph's rigorous year-by-year tracking of the probie schools and their four-year marches to full membership, I knew that we were due to get bumped up to a 61-team tourney this year. I guess that I just figured it was common knowledge and therefore wasn't drawing any comment.
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Ralph Turner

Chapman is 10-1 in-region and has 7 in-region games remaining.

They are:  3 against LaSierra (3-10), two against UC Santa Cruz (4-9), Cal Tech (0-8) and UDallas (4-5).

Elms is 6-2/4-2.

Maryville is 9-2/6-2.

John Gleich

Quote from: Mr. Ypsi on December 16, 2009, 10:35:33 PM
Quote from: PointSpecial on December 16, 2009, 10:30:17 PM
Quote from: Mr. Ypsi on December 16, 2009, 10:27:02 PM
My excuse was senility, not bad arithmetic! ;D

I forgot we weren't already at 61 last year! :-[ :P

My excuse is Mr. Ypsi's senility too!

Now, watch your manners, young-un.

The senile Mr. Ypsi is kickin' your sorry butt in pickems (so far, at least; of course he may forget to pick one of these weeks! :D).

[Of course, so is everyone else. :P]

I copied the leader this week, so I should be golden! ... or I'm going to drag him down too!
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Quote from: PointSpecial on December 31, 2009, 10:53:23 PM
Quote from: Mr. Ypsi on December 16, 2009, 10:35:33 PM
Quote from: PointSpecial on December 16, 2009, 10:30:17 PM
Quote from: Mr. Ypsi on December 16, 2009, 10:27:02 PM
My excuse was senility, not bad arithmetic! ;D

I forgot we weren't already at 61 last year! :-[ :P

My excuse is Mr. Ypsi's senility too!

Now, watch your manners, young-un.

The senile Mr. Ypsi is kickin' your sorry butt in pickems (so far, at least; of course he may forget to pick one of these weeks! :D).

[Of course, so is everyone else. :P]

I copiedthe one of the leaders this week, so I should be golden! ... or I'm going to drag him down too!

slight correction. ;D

Ralph Turner

Kinghtslappy is running an OWP/OOWP that may approximate the calculations that the Selection committee may see for the regional rankings.  It is a good proxy of where a team stands for the Pool B and C bids.


Post # 2451

In this calculation, Maryville TN is listed as #1; Chapman #2.

The NECC and UMAC seem to be knocking themselves out of contention for Pool B bids.

KnightSlappy

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Quote from: Ralph Turner on January 17, 2010, 02:02:09 PM
Kinghtslappy is running an OWP/OOWP that may approximate the calculations that the Selection committee may see for the regional rankings.  It is a good proxy of where a team stands for the Pool B and C bids.


Post # 2451

In this calculation, Maryville TN is listed as #1; Chapman #2.

The NECC and UMAC seem to be knocking themselves out of contention for Pool B bids.

Pool B regional-RPI based rankings through scores reported to d3hoops.com at noon eastern time:

RNK   WP      OWP     OOWP     RPI    NAT     REG     OVR   Team
                        
001   0.818   0.527   0.520   .5978   038     9-2    14-2   Maryville (Tenn.)
002   0.923   0.457   0.493   .5825   058    12-1    14-2   Chapman
003   0.545   0.520   0.503   .5223   162     6-5     8-5   Elms
004   0.692   0.444   0.499   .5202   164     9-4     9-4   Wheelock
005   0.385   0.604   0.477   .5175   169     5-8    7-10   Rust
006   0.500   0.523   0.504   .5124   181     5-5     7-7   Huntingdon
007   0.400   0.564   0.476   .5011   209     4-6    6-11   UC Santa Cruz
008   0.500   0.491   0.498   .4952   222     7-7     7-7   Becker
009   0.600   0.425   0.486   .4839   245     9-6     9-6   Northwestern (Minn.)
010   0.600   0.391   0.549   .4828   248     6-4     9-6   Piedmont
011   0.333   0.441   0.502   .4292   325     4-8     ---   Lesley
012   0.231   0.467   0.511   .4191   338    3-10    4-13   LaGrange
013   0.333   0.418   0.493   .4154   342     4-8     4-8   Newbury
014   0.300   0.418   0.502   .4095   350     3-7     4-7   Southern Vermont
015   0.313   0.421   0.477   .4080   351    5-11    5-11   St. Scholastica
016   0.286   0.430   0.467   .4033   358     2-5     5-8   Nebraska Wesleyan
017   0.200   0.451   0.446   .3872   367     2-8     2-9   Mitchell
018   0.300   0.385   0.479   .3869   368     3-7     4-7   Daniel Webster
019   0.500   0.290   0.460   .3849   371     3-3     4-9   Minnesota-Morris
020   0.444   0.309   0.464   .3814   374     4-5     6-8   Presentation
021   0.143   0.467   0.446   .3805   376    2-12    2-13   Bethany Lutheran
022   0.273   0.386   0.461   .3765   379     3-8    4-11   Northland
023   0.167   0.425   0.452   .3673   386    2-10    2-10   Martin Luther
024   0.200   0.389   0.478   .3640   387    3-12    3-12   Crown
025   0.222   0.362   0.510   .3639   388     2-7     4-9   Finlandia
026   0.000   0.289   0.475   .2633   401     0-5     1-8   Maine-Presque Isle



Ralph Turner

Thanks for knightslappy for the table.  I have added the conference affiliations for my own review.



RNK   WP      OWP     OOWP     RPI    NAT     REG     OVR   Team  Conference
001   0.818   0.527   0.520   .5978   038     9-2    14-2   Maryville (Tenn.)  GSAC
002   0.923   0.457   0.493   .5825  058    12-1    14-2   Chapman  Ind
003   0.545   0.520   0.503   .5223   162     6-5     8-5   Elms  NECC
004  0.692  0.444   0.499   .5202   164     9-4    9-4   Wheelock NECC
005   0.385   0.604   0.477   .5175   169     5-8    7-10   RustInd
006   0.500   0.523   0.504   .5124   181     5-5     7-7   Huntingdon  GSAC
007   0.400   0.564   0.476   .5011   209     4-6    6-11   UC Santa Cruz  Ind
008   0.500   0.491   0.498   .4952   222     7-7     7-7   BeckerNECC
009   0.600   0.391   0.549   .4828   247     6-4     9-6   PiedmontGSAC
010   0.333   0.441   0.502   .4292   324     4-8    ---   LesleyNECC
011   0.231   0.467   0.511   .4191   337    3-10    4-13  LaGrangeGSAC
012   0.333   0.418   0.493   .4154   341     4-8     4-8   NewburyNECC
013   0.300   0.418   0.502   .4095   349     3-7     4-7  Southern VermontNECC
014   0.313   0.421   0.477   .4080   350    5-11    5-11   St. ScholasticaUMAC
015   0.286   0.430   0.467   .4033   357     2-5     5-8   Nebraska WesleyanInd
016   0.200   0.451   0.446   .3872   366     2-8     2-9   MitchellNECC
017   0.300   0.385   0.479   .3869   367     3-7     4-7   Daniel WebsterNECC
018   0.500  0.290   0.460   .3849   370     3-3     4-9   Minnesota-MorrisUMAC
019   0.444  0.309   0.464   .3814   373     4-5    6-8   PresentationUMAC
020   0.143   0.467   0.446   .3805   375    2-12    2-13   Bethany LutheranUMAC
021   0.273   0.386   0.461   .3765   378     3-8    4-11   NorthlandUMAC
022   0.167   0.425   0.452   .3673   385    2-10    2-10   Martin LutherUMAC
023  0.200   0.389   0.478   .3640   386    3-12    3-12   CrownUMAC
024   0.222   0.362   0.510   .3639   387     2-7     4-9   FinlandiaInd
025   0.000   0.289   0.475   .2633   400     0-5     1-8   Maine-Presque IsleInd/NAIA-2
026   0.600   0.425   0.486   .0000   401     9-6     9-6   Northwestern (Minn.)UMAC

Mr. Ypsi

Apparently some sort of glitch left Northwestern with a .0000 RPI! :D

I forget the formula for calculation, but just eyeballing the numbers it appears they would be about #5.

Ralph Turner

Quote from: Mr. Ypsi on January 17, 2010, 03:09:03 PM
Apparently some sort of glitch left Northwestern with a .0000 RPI! :D

I forget the formula for calculation, but just eyeballing the numbers it appears they would be about #5.
Yeah, you just wanted to get UM-Presque Isle at the bottom of the list.

Mr. Ypsi

Quote from: Ralph Turner on January 17, 2010, 03:13:20 PM
Quote from: Mr. Ypsi on January 17, 2010, 03:09:03 PM
Apparently some sort of glitch left Northwestern with a .0000 RPI! :D

I forget the formula for calculation, but just eyeballing the numbers it appears they would be about #5.
Yeah, you just wanted to get UM-Presque Isle at the bottom of the list.

This late in the season not even a Bumblin' B can have a .0000 RPI! ;D

scottiedoug

Thank you, Knightslappy and Ralph!


AO

come on guys, after a disappointing start to the season, my squad's going to need a little help from the pool B gurus.  This was not what I had in mind! :(  To atone for this, please adjust the rankings to account for the fact that Northwestern currently has the best win out of any of the pool b's with a road win over #12 st. norberts.

Ralph Turner

Quote from: AO on January 18, 2010, 12:14:23 PM
come on guys, after a disappointing start to the season, my squad's going to need a little help from the pool B gurus.  This was not what I had in mind! :(  To atone for this, please adjust the rankings to account for the fact that Northwestern currently has the best win out of any of the pool b's with a road win over #12 st. norberts.
I gotta tell you...

It is that Northwestern MN road win over SNC that has me doubting whether SNC deserves to be ranked as high as it is.

I think that your best chance is for Northwestern to run the table and conference tourney.  I believe that you need some help from other teams beating Chapman and Maryville to knock down their numbers, too.