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Ralph Turner

Pool B gets an infusion of new teams.

Nine TCCC members plan new DIII conference

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The nine institutions "share a focus on student-athlete success and commitment to standards for competitive play," according to the announcement Wednesday by Dorothy J. Millhofer, director of communications at Nichols.

The other schools involved in the new conference will be Curry, Endicott, Gordon, Roger Williams, Salve Regina, University of New England, Wentworth Institute of Technology and Western New England.  ...

The remaining five TCCC teams (Anna Maria, Colby-Sawyer, Eastern Nazarene, New England College and Regis MA) have a core of teams that can add affiliates to maintain the TCCC AQ thru the 2012-13 season.

Hugenerd

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Quote from: Ralph Turner on April 09, 2010, 10:49:15 PM
Pool B gets an infusion of new teams.

Nine TCCC members plan new DIII conference

Quote...
The nine institutions "share a focus on student-athlete success and commitment to standards for competitive play," according to the announcement Wednesday by Dorothy J. Millhofer, director of communications at Nichols.

The other schools involved in the new conference will be Curry, Endicott, Gordon, Roger Williams, Salve Regina, University of New England, Wentworth Institute of Technology and Western New England.  ...

The remaining five TCCC teams (Anna Maria, Colby-Sawyer, Eastern Nazarene, New England College and Regis MA) have a core of teams that can add affiliates to maintain the TCCC AQ thru the 2012-13 season.

That would begin in two seasons however.  Is this going to hurt Pool C in the 2011-12 season?  The 5 team CCC has a 2 year grace period to get up to 7 teams, so they will still have a Pool A bid, and the 9 teams leaving will add at least one Pool B slot, right?

Ralph Turner

Quote from: hugenerd on April 09, 2010, 10:59:39 PM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on April 09, 2010, 10:49:15 PM
Pool B gets an infusion of new teams.

Nine TCCC members plan new DIII conference

Quote...
The nine institutions "share a focus on student-athlete success and commitment to standards for competitive play," according to the announcement Wednesday by Dorothy J. Millhofer, director of communications at Nichols.

The other schools involved in the new conference will be Curry, Endicott, Gordon, Roger Williams, Salve Regina, University of New England, Wentworth Institute of Technology and Western New England.  ...

The remaining five TCCC teams (Anna Maria, Colby-Sawyer, Eastern Nazarene, New England College and Regis MA) have a core of teams that can add affiliates to maintain the TCCC AQ thru the 2012-13 season.

That would begin in two seasons however.  Is this going to hurt Pool C in the 2011-12 season?  The 5 team CCC has a 2 year grace period to get up to 7 teams, so they will still have a Pool C bid, and the 9 teams leaving will add at least one Pool B slot, right?
Yes the TCCC will keep its Pool A bid thru 2012-13.  We may see some shuffling in New England with this move.

Ralph Turner

Quote from: Pat Coleman on April 07, 2010, 08:08:58 PM
The CCC is breaking up: D3hoops.com: Notables
Front page.  I went to the NCAA News site before I saw the D3Hoops.com Notables.

Gregory Sager

I'd like to hear from Hoops Fan on this. From what I understand, Gordon and Eastern Nazarene are archrivals. This move would break them up.
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Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan)

Quote from: Gregory Sager on April 10, 2010, 10:37:03 AM
I'd like to hear from Hoops Fan on this. From what I understand, Gordon and Eastern Nazarene are archrivals. This move would break them up.

Gordon and ENC are historic rivals as the only protestant schools in New England.  Over the past decade or so Gordon has worked hard to raise the level of play in their athletic programs and to really expand their institution as a whole.  Simultaneously ENC has gone through a really rough patch, with some very middling, if not poor, teams fielded - not to mention institutional difficulties.  At this point it's a rivalry for ENC much more than it is for Gordon.  Gordon has the luxury of a geographic rival in Endicott - the two campuses are just a mile or two apart.  Maintaining that rivalry is much more important for Gordon.

This move makes sense.  My only question is why Colby-Sawyer was not included in the move.  We may see some movement from them in the near future.

Those nine may be looking to create a conference conducive to competitive play in football, hockey, and/or lacrosse.  Most of the nine have two of the three.

They have 18 months to get everything settled - I still think we'll see a lot of movement in New England.
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Ralph Turner

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Quote from: Ralph Turner on April 09, 2010, 11:08:26 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on April 07, 2010, 08:08:58 PM
The CCC is breaking up: D3hoops.com: Notables
Front page.  I went to the NCAA News site before I saw the D3Hoops.com Notables.
TCCC breakup.

With the departure of Colby-Sawyer and New England College to the NAC and Anna Marie to the GNAC, my guess is that the TCCC will not have a Pool A bid in 2011-12.

Where will Regis and Eastern Nazarene land?

Actually this may mean an additional Pool C bid in 2011-12 that would have gone to a 5-member TCCC, as the TCCC tried to get back the minimum 7 teams.

Hugenerd

Quote from: Ralph Turner on July 06, 2010, 09:49:03 PM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on April 09, 2010, 11:08:26 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on April 07, 2010, 08:08:58 PM
The CCC is breaking up: D3hoops.com: Notables
Front page.  I went to the NCAA News site before I saw the D3Hoops.com Notables.
TCCC breakup.

With the departure of Colby-Sawyer and New England College to the NAC and Anna Marie to the GNAC, my guess is that the TCCC will not have a Pool A bid in 2011-12.

Where will Regis and Eastern Nazarene land?

Actually this may mean an additional Pool C bid in 2011-12 that would have gone to a 5-member TCCC, as the TCCC tried to get back the minimum 7 teams.

Dont they get a grace period to get up to 7 teams?

Pat Coleman

Don't they need four teams to be a conference?
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KnightSlappy

Excuse my slowness, but I want to get things straight in my mind.


  • Nine schools will leave (T)CCC, beginning in '11-'12, to form a new conference. These schools will be lumped into Pool B until the conference gets the AQ. (How long is the provisional waiting period?) Basically, we'll gain a Pool B until this league becomes AQ eligible, at which point we'll lose the B and gain an A (not strictly speaking, but more or less).

  • Three more schools leave (T)CCC to join existing leagues starting in '11-'12.

  • Only two remain in (T)CCC, which is in jeopardy of losing it's Pool A grace period if it can't add at least two more members before the '11-'12 season. Either the remaining two jump ship to Pool A leagues, they add at least two more to maintain Pool A status (maintaining the two-year grace period), or they stay as-is and become Pool B eligible.

Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan)


And the whole mess happened because the nine schools didn't want to do the dirty work of kicking the struggling schools out of the conference.

Apparently they're willing to compete in Pool B for a couple seasons rather than fight to retain the AQ.

I'm sure there's some Bylaw provision that makes it difficult to kick teams out - it just bugs me and my school is one of the one's who should have been kicked out!
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Pat Coleman

There is a two-year waiting period before a conference becomes eligible for an automatic bid. So the ... let's call it NNEAC (New New England Athletic Conference) ... would be in Pool B for the 2012 and 2013 tournaments.
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Ralph Turner

Quote from: Pat Coleman on July 07, 2010, 07:48:53 PM
There is a two-year waiting period before a conference becomes eligible for an automatic bid. So the ... let's call it NNEAC (New New England Athletic Conference) ... would be in Pool B for the 2012 and 2013 tournaments.
The Pool B access ratio for Men's basketball in 2009-10 was 1:9.275.  Basically, the Pool A bid that was the CCC is now another bid in Pool B for the tourneys in 2012 and 2013.

Ralph Turner

Projected members of Pool B for 2010-11.  (The Handbook has not been released.)

Quote from: Ralph Turner on December 13, 2009, 05:36:09 PM
Pool B's in 2010-11 (if the UMAC and the NECC earn Pool A status):

Atlantic -- (0)
East --  (0)
Great Lakes -- (0)
Mid-Atlantic -- (1)  Lancaster Bible
Midwest  -- (0)
Northeast Region -- (1*)  UMPI (Dual member in NAIA)
South -- (5) GSAC-4,  Rust
West -- (4*) Chapman,  Finlandia, Neb Wesleyan* (Dual member in NAIA), North Central MN

Lancaster Bible and North Central MN should become full members in 2010.

We could have as many as 11 Pool B teams in 2010.  Five schools become new members in 2010-11, so we might get a 62nd bid.

There may be as few as 9 and as many as 11 in Pool B.  That suggests 1 Pool B bid.

bballlover

Would it be safe to say then that this will come down to Chapman or Maryville?