Bumblin' B's

Pat Coleman · May 26, 2011, 10:52:34 AM

Quote from: KnightSlappy on May 26, 2011, 09:52:12 AM
We should be getting a 62nd bid this year, I believe.

Yes, there will be a 62nd men's team in the 2012 tournament.

gordonmann · May 26, 2011, 02:49:09 PM

St. Joe's is another school that appears to have conference options, if they want to take them - Skyline (which already has the Long Island branch of the same University), NEAC, CSAC, maybe even one of the New England conferences.

But maybe they'll just decide to stay in the Hudson Valley Men's (and Women's) Athletic Conference. Their non-conference schedule from last year indicates a preference to stay local.

Ralph Turner · June 07, 2011, 04:50:42 PM

With the splitting of 7 members plus Berry after 2011-12, Pool B picks up those 7 schools for 2012-13 and then Berry in 2013-14. Since the number of Pool B bids is determined before the # of Pool C bids, it is likely that the bid will come from the Pool C total in those 2 years.

They become the competition for the Pool B bid in 2012-13.

CityD3 · June 08, 2011, 01:00:23 PM

Quote from: KnightSlappy on May 26, 2011, 09:54:31 AM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on May 12, 2011, 11:18:00 PM
Pool B in 2011-12.

Here are the Pool 10 8 definite B teams that I find, and as many as 10.

~~Lancaster Bible~~ unless joining the NEAC

U Maine - Presque Isle (Are they declaring for the NAIA next season?)

GSAC-4 (Huntingdon, LaGrange, Maryville, Piedmont) Last season for LaGrange and Piedmont.

Rust

~~Nebraska Wesleyan~~ (Are they declaring for the NCAA again? Or does the GPAC need them for the second NAIA AQ?)
Finlandia
UC Santa Cruz
North Central University (MN)

No word on full membership for North Central University in the UMAC. (The North Central men's golf team is the UMAC Pool A bid in golf this week.)

Lancaster Bible sits amid several conferences that might peer institutions. They are still an independent.

Revised -- May 19, 2011

What about St. Joseph's (Bklyn)? They're set to become a full NCAA member. Are they still going to be independent?

St. Joseph's will be staying independent for the time being and will play in the HVMAC (non-NCAA affiliated conference) while being dually affiliated with the USCAA. And from what I hear Lancaster is going NEAC. So how many teams does that make in pool B ?

KnightSlappy · June 08, 2011, 02:20:47 PM

It's gonna be between 12 (absolute max) and 8.

These are the "possibilites" that may not end up in Pool B.

Lancaster Bible (NEAC)
North Central (MN) (UMAC)
UMPI (NAIA)
Nebraska Wesleyan (NAIA)

Pool B needs to be 10 members or more to get a bid for next season.

CityD3 · June 08, 2011, 04:57:32 PM

Who are the other 8? Rust, Finlandia, St. Joseph's, UMPI, Neb Wesleyan, U Maine Presque Isle?

gordonmann · June 08, 2011, 06:59:13 PM

QuoteWho are the other 8? Rust, Finlandia, St. Joseph's, UMPI, Neb Wesleyan, U Maine Presque Isle?

The six you mention plus Lancaster Bible, UC Santa Cruz and the four teams in the GSAC (Huntingdon, LaGrange, Piedmont and Maryville) are the 12 teams people have discussed.

Just Bill · June 08, 2011, 07:58:07 PM

Quote from: gordonmann on June 08, 2011, 06:59:13 PM
QuoteWho are the other 8? Rust, Finlandia, St. Joseph's, UMPI, Neb Wesleyan, U Maine Presque Isle?

The six you mention plus Lancaster Bible, UC Santa Cruz and the four teams in the GSAC (Huntingdon, LaGrange, Piedmont and Maryville) are the 12 teams people have discussed.

The SIX he mentioned? I don't think "UMPI" and U Maine Presque Isle" are two different schools.

gordonmann · June 08, 2011, 11:48:25 PM

Quite right. Sorry.

KnightSlappy · June 09, 2011, 12:02:34 AM

Quote from: CityD3 on June 08, 2011, 04:57:32 PM
Who are the other 8? Rust, Finlandia, St. Joseph's, UMPI, Neb Wesleyan, U Maine Presque Isle?

The other 8 are:

Huntingdon
LaGrange
Piedmont
Maryville
Rust
Finlandia
St. Joseph's
UC Santa Cruz

CityD3 · June 09, 2011, 05:36:25 PM

Of those who would be favored to get the pool B bid? Based on history
obviously because it's too early to tell

KnightSlappy · June 09, 2011, 08:25:42 PM

Quote from: CityD3 on June 09, 2011, 05:36:25 PM
Of those who would be favored to get the pool B bid? Based on history
obviously because it's too early to tell

If Pool B doesn't reach 10 schools, there won't be a bid.

scottiedoug · June 10, 2011, 09:57:12 AM

In that case, a Pool C bid would be the only way in? How many such bids would there be?

KnightSlappy · June 10, 2011, 10:15:00 AM

Quote from: scottiedoug on June 10, 2011, 09:57:12 AM
In that case, a Pool C bid would be the only way in? How many such bids would there be?

If Pool B <10:
42 Pool A
20 Pool C

If Pool B >=10
42 Pool A
1 Pool B
19 Pool C

KnightSlappy · July 22, 2011, 03:42:21 PM

Lancaster's schedule is confirming NEAC affiliation. They're officially off the Pool B board.

http://www.lbcchargers.com/schedule.aspx?path=mbball&

It appears that North Central (Minn) will not be joining the UMAC in hoops this season. Page 10 of the 2011-12 UMAC orientaion slideshow lists them only as Cross Country, Tennis, Golf (mens), and Track and field.

http://umacathletics.com/documents/2011/5/19/UMAC_1112_Orientation_PowerPoint.pdf?id=416

So we'll get a pool B bid if either UMPI or Nebraska Wesleyan declare for the NCAA (how/when do we find out the declarations?).