Bumblin' B's

Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) · February 17, 2006, 03:45:01 PM

It's going to be tough for anyone to crack that top four, unless Fisk and Maryville choke again.

Pat Coleman · February 17, 2006, 08:09:54 PM

For those interested, Huntingdon's QOWI is 8.375.

Ralph Turner · February 17, 2006, 08:32:41 PM

I can imagine Huntingdon getting a Pool B in this scenario.

Fisk beats Rust on Saturday night. That raises their in-region to 10-4.

Huntingdon defeats Fisk (in Montgomery) in the semis of the GSAC Tourney. That is a 14-point QOWI win for Huntingdon.

Maryville wins its semifinal and then loses to Huntingdon in the finals of the GSAC tourney. That will give them an in-region record of 15-7 for a 14-point QOWI win for Huntingdon. That raises Huntingdon's QOWI to 9.000, and raises their South Region record to 12-6.

Against previously ranked in-region teams, they have won the season series against both Fisk and Maryville, 2 out of 3 games.

Griffcoach22 · February 17, 2006, 11:57:56 PM

Ralph,

Do you think it is possible for Huntingdon to get a pool B bid if they beat Fisk in the first round of the conference tourny and lose to Maryville in the finals? What would that scenario do to their QOWI?

Probably going to be tough to beat Fisk and MC both again two weeks in a row I would imagine. Anything can happen though.

Thanks for your reply in advance.

Ralph Turner · February 18, 2006, 09:01:44 AM

Quote from: Griffcoach22 on February 17, 2006, 11:57:56 PM
Ralph,

Do you think it is possible for Huntingdon to get a pool B bid if they beat Fisk in the first round of the conference tourny and lose to Maryville in the finals? What would that scenario do to their QOWI?

Probably going to be tough to beat Fisk and MC both again two weeks in a row I would imagine. Anything can happen though.

Thanks for your reply in advance.

I calculate that it drops their QOWI back to the 8.556 range, assuming no other values are changed in the other teams.

Griff, my nature is to predict what I think can be achieved by my efforts or by those of someone else who is asking me for advice.

I can confidently make the case for the Huntingdon team and fans; you do this (win the conference tourney) and this is your case to present to the Selection Committee. Surely it will be hard to beat both Maryville and Fisk again, but the "Conference Champion" has that mindset! If you are the conference champ, then you defeat them both, again. The conference tourney winner will have won the season series among each of the those 3 teams, 2 out of 3!

I will predict that one GSAC team gets a Pool B bid. I do not know the workings of the committee to pontificate on the potential for a 2nd Pool B bid.

Ralph Turner · February 19, 2006, 12:46:03 AM

Let's remember a developing situation concerning Chapman.

Chapman has 2 wins over SCIAC-leading CMS.

This really helps Chapman, if CMS ends up in the Final ranking.

David Collinge · February 19, 2006, 12:53:34 AM

...and CMS clinched at least a tie for the SCIAC title tonight by beating Occidental. They will take the SCIAC Pool A bid with a victory over LaVerne (11-10) Monday or Cal Lu (9-14) Thursday, or, if need be, in a one-game playoff vs. Oxy next weekend. Havng CMS in the tournament has to help Chapman.

Ralph Turner · February 19, 2006, 12:57:34 AM

I cannot remember if or when or in what sport there was a criterion acknowledging wins over other playoff teams, but that verbage is no longer in the Handbook.

Pat Coleman · February 19, 2006, 02:09:04 AM

There was in all three of "our" sports, but it was struck from the criteria a couple years ago.

joe smith · February 19, 2006, 09:44:02 AM

Bethany wins it's last regular season game last night drumming another Thiel 99-64. They improved to 21-4 and 18-4 in the region. They've now won 16 in a row after a 5-4 start. They will have homecourt throughout the conference tourny. I don't see anyone in the conference coming close to beating this team in the their tourny. The only team I think that might have a shot is Westminster who is playing very well in the conference as of late. Look for Bethany to get 2 more wins and finish 23-4 and 20-4 in the region. Looks like a shoe-in for the ncaa tourny to me.

d3hoops8585 · February 19, 2006, 11:43:17 AM

people should really be talking about villa Julie getting a Pool B Bid...they're 17-7, 12-4 in conference and 4 of those losses have come with their point guard (chris warren) injured. They won the pride of Maryland Tournanment, which should almost be an automatic bid in itself and they had catholic beat until the end. If they win their conference tournament, I dont think there should be any discussion whatsoever, they should defiintely get in, but I think if they make it to the championship game, they should get in too..they've had a great season and should be rewarded for doing so

Ralph Turner · February 19, 2006, 11:59:04 AM

Joe, I don't think you can say Bethany is a shoo-in.

I see that there are probably 7 teams competing for the 4 bids.

GSAC:
Maryville -- Tied for 7th in the South Region Rankings with...
Fisk -- and both of those teams may play...
Huntingdon -- in the GSAC Tourney.

Give one bid to the winner of those 3.

Bethany -- needs to win the Pres AC tourney just to keep up with the other tourney winners, and cannot wait to get to Pool A status in 2008.

Villa Julie -- needs to win the NEAC tourney just to keep up with the other tourney winners. I believe that the NEAC moves to Pool A in 2007. VJC moves to the Capital AC...Bye-bye Pool B.

Clarke -- has a nice win against UW-Stevens Point. Won the NIIC regular season but needs to win the NIIC tourney just to keep up with the other tourney winners. The other 4 members of the NIIC move to the Lake Michigan to form a new conference.

Chapman -- may have the good fortune of sweeping CMS in the SCIAC who might be a Pool A bid winner. Chapman needs to win the West Regional Indepedents tourney just to keep up with the other tourney winners.

crusaders · February 19, 2006, 01:26:07 PM

Did I just read a post stating that Clarke has a chance to get in? Go Crusaders!

Pat Coleman · February 19, 2006, 01:27:27 PM

Problem is, the gap between Clarke and the other Pool B contenders is so wide that I think those teams can lose and still be ahead of the Crusaders.

This just came up on the Daily Dose.

crusaders · February 19, 2006, 04:22:16 PM

So lets say that I can't miss a Clarke game, and I have to put down a deposit on a trip that would occur during the first game of the NCAA DIII tourny of lets say $1000, and the deposit is non-refundable..are you tellin me i should go ahead and do this because clarke has no chance at all?