Bumblin' B's

[Pat Coleman]

I know Pat gave us the word that NebWes is out because of their sub-.500 overall records, but are we sure about that one?  They are participating in the West independent tournament, which seems like a lot of needless expense if they really are out of contention.

I asked NCAA for clarification and they said, in fact, the info I was given in 2004 is incorrect or no longer valid. Expect a rant tonight on that on Hoopsville.

BTW, I wouldn't see the indy tournament solely as a vehicle for making the NCAA playoffs. If so, why would Green Mountain or Mitchell bother either? Sometimes it's just so the kids can have some competition and something to play for!

[smedindy]

Holiday? Those of us in the private world had to work anyway!

[smedindy]

Pat, I wouldn't rant - the NCAA ignores non-D3 games and non-region games for selection, so they're just being consistent by ignoring Nebraska Wesleyan's NAIA conference game.

Yes, I said consistent and NCAA. HAH!

[Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan)]

I posted this on the rant, but the biggest problem is that the NCAA is too weak to deny a team, even one with as little clout as Nebraska Wesleyan.  In the 2006 Championship Handbook it clearly states that a team must play 50% of its schedule against in-region d3 opponents in order to qualify for the post-season.  Then it says that a team may petition the NCAA to have this requirement waived.

The NCAA needs to stop granting these petitions in certain cases.

So now we've got two of the four bids gone: Lincoln and NebWes will lamost certainly be in.  I would assume, even if Chapman can take them out, the 7-2 region record would be good enough to get them in.

[smedindy]

Yeesh. If Neb Wes makes it - they're going to get garroted big time. Last time I did the power rankings they were 261.

And hopefully this will cause a clamor to change the system - get rid of the pools and select teams *logically*.

Heh, what am I thinking - it's the NCAA.

[Pat Coleman]

Men's regional rankings posted
http://www.d3hoops.com/dailydose/?p=140

[Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan)]

Lincoln up to #2 in the Mid-Atlantic.  Fisk and Maryville tied for 5th in the South.


I think this makes things more likely for a GSAC Pool C bid, especially if Fisk loses to Maryville in the conference championship game.

[scottiedoug]

Hoops Fan!  I like your thinking!
I'm for Fisk losing to Maryville and going on anyway. 

[Ralph Turner]

QOWI through games of Sunday, Feb. 19:

1-10
Amherst     11.826     22-1  NESCAC
Lawrence    11.550    20-0  MWC
York (Pa.)    11.043    21-2  Capital AC
Worcester Polytech    11.000    19-3  NEWMAC
Mississippi College    10.913    22-1  ASC-East
Trinity (Texas)    10.833    16-2 SCAC
Tufts    10.826    19-4  NESCAC
Lincoln    10.813    12-4 Pool B#1
St. John Fisher    10.810    20-1 LL
Augustana    10.773    19-3 CCIW
               

11-20
Cortland State    10.609    21-2 SUNYAC
Virginia Wesleyan    10.538    23-3 ODAC
Gordon    10.522    21-2 CCC-N
William Paterson    10.435    17-6 NJAC
Carnegie Mellon    10.389    14-4 UAA
Wittenberg    10.350    17-3 NCAC
Wooster    10.333    19-2  NCAC
Lakeland    10.200    17-3 LMC
Widener    10.174    19-4 MACC
Transylvania    10.167    20-4 HCAC
               
21-30
Calvin    10.167    11-1 MIAA
Keene State    10.136    16-6 LEC
Randolph-Macon    10.125    19-5  ODAC
Washington U.    10.111    13-5  UAA
Carroll    10.095    18-3  MWC
Occidental    10.071    11-3  SCIAC (Pool A is CLU)
Illinois Wesleyan    10.053    14-5  CCIW
Bates    10.048    16-5  NESCAC
Baruch    10.045    20-2 SUNYAC
Alvernia    10.045    19-3  PnAC
               
31-40
UW-Stout    10.000    16-4 WIAC
Baldwin-Wallace    10.000    19-4 OAC
Trinity (Conn.)    10.000    15-4  NESCAC
Carleton    9.952    17-4 MIAC
UW-Whitewater    9.950    15-5  WIAC
New Jersey    9.905    14-7 NJAC
North Central    9.895    14-5  CCIW
Hope    9.875    14-2  MIAA
UW-La Crosse    9.870    17-6 WIAC
Ursinus    9.826    18-5 CC
               

   
41-50
St. Thomas    9.783    18-5 MIAC
Richard Stockton    9.783    15-8 NJAC
Fisk    9.769    9-4 GSAC Pool B #2
New Jersey City    9.739    16-7 NJAC
Nebraska Wesleyan    9.714    6-1 Pool B #3
Puget Sound    9.706    15-2 NWC
New York University    9.696    17-6 UAA
SUNY-Farmingdale    9.667    16-5  SUNYAC
Utica    9.652    18-5  E8
Lake Erie    9.650    16-4 AMCC
               

58. Maryville (Tenn.)    9.500    14-6  Pool B #4

[David Collinge]

If Nebraska Wesleyan gets in, and their getting in means Bethany is left out, it will be a high crime, sufficient to impeach the NCAA.

Of course, neither has the remotest chance to win an NCAA game, but still...

[dansand]

If Nebraska Wesleyan gets in, and their getting in means Bethany is left out, it will be a high crime, sufficient to impeach the NCAA.

Of course, neither has the remotest chance to win an NCAA game, but still...

David used the word "impeach" and Mr. Ypsi hasn't responded with a tirade about Dubya. Could someone in or near Ypsilanti please check and make sure he's okay? 

[wilburt]

Hoops Fan!  I like your thinking!
I'm for Fisk losing to Maryville and going on anyway. 

Hoops Fan!  Your thinking is suspect

I'm for Maryville losing to Fisk and going on anyway.

[Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan)]

If Nebraska Wesleyan gets in, and their getting in means Bethany is left out, it will be a high crime, sufficient to impeach the NCAA.

Of course, neither has the remotest chance to win an NCAA game, but still...

No, I think it will be at the expense of one of the GSAC teams, but still it stinks, literally, it's creating a bad smell over the whole Midwest right now, are you guys getting that in Iowa yet?

[Knightstalker]

If Nebraska Wesleyan gets in, and their getting in means Bethany is left out, it will be a high crime, sufficient to impeach the NCAA.

Of course, neither has the remotest chance to win an NCAA game, but still...

David used the word "impeach" and Mr. Ypsi hasn't responded with a tirade about Dubya. Could someone in or near Ypsilanti please check and make sure he's okay? 

Can you impeach the Anti-Christ?   

[smedindy]

Of course, if Neb. Wesleyan doesn't make it, then all of this teeth gnashing and garment rendering will be for naught. Or just good practice, I suppose.