Bumblin' B's

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joe smith

Bethany handles Thiel College last night 94-70 to advance to the conference championship on Saturday.  They will meet Waynesburg who is 17-10.  With that win, will it improve their QOWI?  They currently are 22-4 and 19-4 in the region.  They are also riding a 17 game win streak.

Ralph Turner

Quote from: joe smith on February 24, 2006, 08:08:56 AM
Bethany handles Thiel College last night 94-70 (now 3-20 in-region or an 8-point QOWI win) to advance to the conference championship on Saturday. They will meet Waynesburg who is 17-10 (11-9 in region, 11-10 in region if Bethany wins and will be a 12 point QOWI win) .  With that win, will it improve their QOWI? They currently are 22-4 and 19-4 in the region. They are also riding a 17 game win streak.

Joe Smith, your assumptions are correct!  The Thiel win actually  brought your QOWI down.  A win over Waynesburg should help your "QOWI" Index by about 0.05 points. :)

smedindy

Doesn't the I in QOWI stand for "index".

So it's the Quality of Win Index Index?  ;D

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D3_FAN_03

With all due respect to Villa Julie and taking nothing away from their good season.  There conference is a total joke.  Bethany might not be in the strongest conference in the nation, but its definitely a stronger conference then Villa Julie's.  Bethany's QOWI is currently 9.311, 19-4 in region, 22-4 overall, and are riding a 17 game win streak.  If they are able to beat Waynesburg 16-10 (11-9 in region) on Saturday in the PrAC championship their QOWI would go up to 9.410 and would have 20 region wins and the highest "in region" win percentage of any Pool B squad in the nation.
The only decent teams in Villa Julie's conference are Keystone who is a provisional member and Baptist Bible who made themselves ineligible for the NCAA DIII Tourney by making themselves eligible for the Christian Tourney.  Plus the only common opponent between Villa Julie and Bethany is Keystone and as stated before Bethany was up 20+ on Keystone before they cleared the bench and VJ lost to Keystone by 26.  Granted the PrAC only has two teams with winning records outside the conference, but they also had teams in Westminster and Washington & Jefferson that play really good non-conference schedules and are proverbial underachievers year in and year out.  It's not that the conference lacks talent.  With all of this being said, I'm not sure that VJ gives much of a challenge to Bethany in the Pool B ranks.

Ralph Turner

Quote from: D3_FAN_03 on February 24, 2006, 09:14:21 AM
With all due respect to Villa Julie and taking nothing away from their good season.  There conference is a total joke. ...

D3 Fan 03, respectfully, that is why we are evaluating them in the group of 41 independent teams that the NCAA has labeled "Pool B".

The NCAA is not looking at their conference.  They are looking at the individual schools and then comparing them amongst the "ppol B" cohort for the access to the NCAA tournament at the mathenmatically determined 1:9.22 access ratio.  The Handbook outlines the process very clearly.

As I have stated, the Pools have driven the member institutions inot conferences.  In 2006-07, the NEAC will be a Pool A and on their way to an 11-member conference.  Using the access ratio, they will have contributed about 1.78 schools to the numerator that contribute to Pool C.

After the carnage in the football that the Pres AC left in trying to accelerate the Thomas More to full member and Pool A status for the Pres AC in all sports, The Pres AC will have its Pool A bid in 2007-08.  They will leave Bumbledom.

Because many schools use basketball as the sport to fulfill the "sport in every season" requirement of the NCAA, there are many schools fiedling weaker than usual squads.  The Pool B's in other spriots are quite competitive, e.g., the Norhtwest Conference and Pres AC in football, the Captial AC in baseball.

If Neb Wes gets into the tourney, I believe that one team of my Pool B fairness" list was left home.

I believe that the "fair" composition of Pool B should be:  Lincoln, Bethany, the NEAC winner-VJC or Keuka and the GSAC winner-Maryville or Fisk or Huntingdon.

Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan)


I think actually Keuka has more to gain from this upcoming game that Villa Julie does.  Keuka is in the weaker region, which makes their record look that much better than others.  A win over Villa Julie could propel them into a solid position for Pool B.

Teams still in the hunt:

Lincoln
Nebraska Wesleyan
Bethany
Fisk
Maryville
Villa Julie
Keuka
Chapman
St. Joe's

The best part is that outside of Lincoln, I can't be sure about any of the others getting in.  We've got eight teams essentially fighting for 3 spot.  Granted those last three squads are really long shots, but anything is possible when the NCAA is involved.
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TeeDub

Let's just make this easy...put in CHAPMAN to play with Claremont and Pool C bid Occidental....c'mon NCAA, think of the cost savings....

Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan)

Quote from: Jordis Rocks on February 24, 2006, 11:19:58 AM
Let's just make this easy...put in CHAPMAN to play with Claremont and Pool C bid Occidental....c'mon NCAA, think of the cost savings....

I wouldn't put it past them, but they couldn't justify a bye to any of those teams could they?

The NWC winner would have to fly somewhere anyway.

I am still worried about Chapman for exactly that reason though.  Give UPS a bye and put CMS and Chpaman together in the first round.  Stranger and less fair things have happened before.
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TeeDub

In addition, Chapman does boast a Josten finalist on their team...I think I am beginning to see the signs of a Pool B bid....

crusaders

With a win against Aurora saturday night, Clarke College of Dubuque, IA will have just a better chance than half the teams on your list hoops fan.  With that win they will be the highest ranked Pool B team in the midwest, which gets them to the second stage of the selection.

Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan)


Yeah, I did forget Clarke.  However, they won't be ranked in the Midwest.
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Here are my odds on getting a bid:

Lincoln 1:10
NebWes OFF
Bethany 2:1
Fisk 2:1
Maryville 4:1
Villa Julie 6:1
Clarke 8:1
Chapman 10:1
Keuka 50:1
St Joe's 100:1

These might change depending on games this weekend.  Obviously a Maryville win over Fisk would drastically improve their chances.  Results from the Indy tournaments could shake things up as well.
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Pat Coleman

Men's QOWI through Thursday's games.

I'm a little concerned there may be conference tourney games we have missed getting onto the schedule. Please let me know if that's the case.

1-10
Amherst     12.000     22-1
Lawrence    11.550    20-0
Worcester Polytech    11.091    19-3
Tufts    11.000    19-4
Mississippi College    10.913    22-1
Augustana    10.864    19-3
Trinity (Texas)    10.833    16-2
Lincoln    10.813    12-4
St. John Fisher    10.810    20-1
Cortland State    10.667    22-2
               
11-20
Gordon    10.560    22-3
Virginia Wesleyan    10.481    24-3
York (Pa.)    10.400    22-3
Carnegie Mellon    10.389    14-4
William Paterson    10.250    18-6
Bates    10.238    16-5
Wittenberg    10.238    18-3
Wooster    10.227    20-2
Washington U.    10.211    14-5
Baruch    10.174    21-2
               
21-30
UW-Whitewater    10.136    17-5
Carleton    10.136    18-4
Keene State    10.130    17-6
Carroll    10.095    18-3
Transylvania    10.080    21-4
Illinois Wesleyan    10.053    14-5
Calvin    10.000    12-1
UW-Stout    10.000    18-4
Widener    10.000    19-4
Alvernia    9.958    21-3

31-40
Lakeland    9.905    17-4
North Central    9.895    14-5
Trinity (Conn.)    9.895    15-4
UW-La Crosse    9.880    18-7
SUNY-Farmingdale    9.870    18-5
Randolph-Macon    9.840    19-6
Ursinus    9.826    18-5
St. Thomas    9.792    19-5
Hope    9.765    15-2
Occidental    9.750    12-4
               
41-50
Baldwin-Wallace    9.750    20-4
Fisk    9.714    10-4
Nebraska Wesleyan    9.714    6-1
Puget Sound    9.706    15-2
New York University    9.696    17-6
Utica    9.667    19-5
Whitworth    9.652    18-5
MIT    9.652    16-7
Salem State    9.583    18-6
Lake Erie    9.550    16-4
               
51-60
Williams    9.542    16-8
Rhode Island College    9.480    17-8
Wheaton (Mass.)    9.478    15-8
Westfield State    9.478    16-7
Colby-Sawyer    9.458    16-8
New Jersey    9.455    14-8
Rochester    9.450    13-7
Catholic    9.435    18-5
Bowdoin    9.429    13-8
Albright    9.409    14-8
               
61-70
Claremont-Mudd-Scripps    9.400    15-5
Howard Payne    9.391    17-6
Mary Hardin-Baylor    9.391    17-6
Pomona-Pitzer    9.353    13-4
Messiah    9.348    16-7
Endicott    9.333    16-8
Mount St. Mary    9.333    18-6
Manhattanville    9.320    17-8
Bethany    9.304    19-4
Maryville (Tenn.)    9.300    14-6
               
71-80
UW-Stevens Point    9.292    15-9
Johns Hopkins    9.286    15-6
Wartburg    9.273    17-5
Albion    9.267    12-3
Hamilton    9.250    16-4
Scranton    9.250    18-6
Richard Stockton    9.208    15-9
Willamette    9.200    16-4
Emmanuel    9.200    19-6
New Jersey City    9.167    16-8
               
81-90
Coe    9.143    15-6
Hanover    9.143    13-8
Elmhurst    9.143    14-7
UW-Oshkosh    9.136    13-9
McMurry    9.136    16-6
Franklin    9.130    17-6
Plymouth State    9.115    16-10
Centre    9.100    13-7
Oswego State    9.083    18-6
Ohio Northern    9.048    16-5
               
91-100
Norwich    9.042    19-5
Ohio Wesleyan    9.000    17-6
Elms    9.000    18-4
Rutgers-Newark    9.000    17-9
Elizabethtown    9.000    13-9
Ramapo    8.957    14-9
Chicago    8.947    11-8
Wilmington    8.923    20-6
Gettysburg    8.913    15-8
Coast Guard    8.913    16-7
               
101-110
Brockport State    8.905    12-9
Aurora    8.900    13-7
Averett    8.900    15-5
Mass-Boston    8.870    14-9
Milwaukee Engineering    8.857    14-7
Villa Julie    8.850    16-4
Southwestern    8.850    14-6
Gustavus Adolphus    8.833    16-8
Pitt-Greensburg    8.762    14-7
Clarke    8.714    14-7
               
111-120
Baptist Bible    8.706    13-4 INELIGIBLE
Brandeis    8.696    13-10
Springfield    8.667    10-14
Mass-Dartmouth    8.636    12-10
Christopher Newport    8.615    9-4
Plattsburgh State    8.609    14-9
Union    8.600    13-7
Wilkes    8.600    13-7
SUNYIT    8.591    12-10
Bridgewater State    8.591    13-9
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joe smith

Bethany College also sports a Josten finalist and could've had two.  Matt Drahos is probably the favorite to recieve this award.  5 time PrAC Player of the week.  2 time ECAC player of the week.  1900+ points in his career ( 23.5 this year). 900+ rebounds (8.4 this year).  d3hoops team of the week.  PrAC Player of the year.  1st team al -academicl in the region.  Oh yeah, pick up the next issue of Sports Illustrated and Matt and his brother on on the "Faces of the Crowd."   Not a bad year so far!! 

TeeDub

Quote from: joe smith on February 24, 2006, 01:39:27 PM
Bethany College also sports a Josten finalist and could've had two.  Matt Drahos is probably the favorite to recieve this award.  5 time PrAC Player of the week.  2 time ECAC player of the week.  1900+ points in his career ( 23.5 this year). 900+ rebounds (8.4 this year).  d3hoops team of the week.  PrAC Player of the year.  1st team al -academicl in the region.  Oh yeah, pick up the next issue of Sports Illustrated and Matt and his brother on on the "Faces of the Crowd."   Not a bad year so far!! 

Is that all you got?  ;)




just kidding, pretty impressive resume....