Bumblin' B's

njlincolnlion · December 29, 2006, 12:03:00 PM

VA Union was also runner-up last year in the D2 Championship game, as my pastor, youth minister and a few other "unionites" at my church constantly remind me. The only championships I could counter with was Lincoln's 2005 Men's Outdoor Track & Field champioship, and runnerup to Wisconsin-LAX in the 2006 championship.

Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) · December 29, 2006, 02:02:49 PM

I don't think Lincoln gets back in just yet.

jack johnson · December 30, 2006, 05:00:47 PM

any input on how pool B seems to be shaping up going into early january? who are the front runners, and who the sleepers may be?

Ralph Turner · December 30, 2006, 11:46:39 PM

I have updated the Pool B's thru this minute. These five are pulling away from the pack for the 3 bids.

Quote from: Ralph Turner on December 17, 2006, 08:03:36 PM
Selected Pool B's (alphabetically)

School/ Conference/ Overall/ Region/ In-region percentage

Aurora NAthCon 8-1/6-1/ .857
Bethany Pres AC 8-3/6-2/ .750 Plays non-region Willamette late tonight
MaryvilleTN GSAC 7-4/7-3/ .700
MSOE Ind 8-3/7-1/ .875
Waynesburg PresAC 6-2/4-0/ 1.000
(MSOE = Milwaukee School of Engineering)

Aurora and MSOE do not play one another this year!

In the PresAC, we have Bethany at Waynesburg on Jan 17th and the return at Bethany on Feb 7th.

Please review the NCAA Basketball Handbook for the selection criteria.

Ralph Turner · January 01, 2007, 02:14:43 AM

Selected Pool B's (alphabetically)

School/ Conference/ Overall/ Region/ In-region percentage

Aurora NAthCon 8-1/6-1/ .857
Bethany Pres AC 8-3/6-2/ .750 Did not play non-region Willamette late 12/30. Willamette played NAIA Bethany Kansas.
MaryvilleTN GSAC 7-4/7-3/ .700
MSOE Ind 8-4/7-2/ .818
Waynesburg PresAC 6-2/4-0/ 1.000
(MSOE = Milwaukee School of Engineering)

Aurora and MSOE do not play one another this year!

Includes MSOE's loss to Cal Lutheran.

njlincolnlion · January 03, 2007, 04:40:23 PM

Ralph:

Where does Lincoln fit in with your Pool "B'ers"? The Lions have 4 loses this year and two were to DII schools.

Ralph Turner · January 03, 2007, 05:03:04 PM

Quote from: njlincolnlion on January 03, 2007, 04:40:23 PM
Ralph:

Where does Lincoln fit in with your Pool "B'ers"? The Lions have 4 loses this year and two were to DII schools.

Happy New Year, NJ!

I have Lincoln's In-Region record as 4-2 (.667) with only 5 declared in-region games left.

Let's look...

I believe that Keystone games count (as a 3rd year provisional). That makes 6 in-region games.

Is Rutgers-Camden within 200 miles of Lincoln?

My tabulation says 46 miles. That makes 7 in-region games.

http://local.live.com/default.aspx?wip=2&v=2&style=r&rtp=~&&msnurl=home.aspx?%26redirect%3dfalse&msnculture=en-US

They are way far out on the bubble!

I think that they need to go no worse than 11-2. That is running the table!

I think that 10-3 is too precarious to project as safe.

Correction: The Franklin and Marshall win is an in-region game. That makes 14 in-region games. Running the table gives Lincoln an in-region reocrd of 12-2 (.857).

njlincolnlion · January 04, 2007, 09:14:33 AM

Ralph:

Happy New Year to you also. Thanks for the feedback. I hope the early year losses to Ramapo and PSU-? with the "Lincoln Five" dosen't come back and bite the Lions in the "rear-end". Here's to the Lions running the table (I hope)

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Ralph Turner · January 07, 2007, 03:12:27 PM

Selected Pool B's (alphabetically). Top four teams by in-region won-loss percentage are highlighted in the bold font. (There are 3 bids in Pool B this year.)

School/ Conference/ Overall/ Region/ In-region percentage

Aurora NAthCon 10-1/8-1/4-1 .889
Bethany Pres AC 9-4/7-3/2-0 .700 Must fight Waynesburg for a bid.
Lincoln 9-4/6-2/ .750 Six in-region games remain (F&M is in-region.)
MaryvilleTN GSAC 9-4/9-3/1-0 .750 Ten in-region games including Piedmont today.
MSOE Ind 9-5/8-3/ .727 Six in-region games remain
Waynesburg PresAC 8-5/8-1/2-0 .889
(MSOE = Milwaukee School of Engineering)

Aurora and MSOE do not play one another this year!

Includes MSOE's loss to Cal Lutheran.

Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) · January 09, 2007, 09:06:48 AM

Glad to see Lincoln empty the bench against a lesser opponent last night. While they may have had one heck of a scoring performance in the second half (nearly 60 points) all ten guys got at least ten minutes and the time was spread much more evenly. Plus Wylie doesn't appear in the play-by-play after 3:25 to go.

This is a very talented team that was obviously affected by the negative publicity and also the unrelated suspensions. I hope they are indeed back on track and can find their way into the tournament.

njlincolnlion · January 09, 2007, 09:45:30 AM

Hoops Fan:

Thanks for the comments on Lincoln. The OSU-Marion and suspensions definitely hurt the Lions psyche and subsequent performances, I just hope the losses to Ramapo and PSU-Altoona won't hurt the Lions chances for the Pool B bid.

Ralph Turner feels the Lions must win out to assure a post season playoff, what do you think Hoops Fan?

Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) · January 09, 2007, 09:55:14 AM

I agree. I don't think they can drop another one. The committee operates in such a vacuum of numbers that the extenuating circumstances of the Altoona loss are really going to hurt them. They just don't have solid teams on the schedule this year, certainly not to the degree they did last season. If they lose any more of their d3 games, they don't deserve to be in.

Aurora is putting up a great season so far. Then again, the PrAC can cannibalize itself and Maryville can always lose and let Lincoln in.

They have a shot if they win out, but if the other top Pool B teams also win out, then I think Lincoln is on the outside looking in.

njlincolnlion · January 09, 2007, 03:56:20 PM

I think if Lincoln makes the postseason playoffs, they could create a little damage now that they are back on track. I think the key games down the stretch are Ramapo, Richard Stockton and New Jersey City. Ramapo is a home game for the Lions while Stockton and NJCU are on the road.

jack johnson · January 17, 2007, 08:31:39 AM

i think these are the top 5 pool B teams right now with a few others on the outside looking in:

Aurora NAthCon 13-1 / 11-1
Westminster PrAC 10-5 / 9-1
Lincoln Ind 12-5 / 8-2
Maryville GSAC 11-4 / 11-3
Bethany PrAC 11-4 / 9-3

looks as if the PrAC will sort things out in conference play most likely only leaving one team worthy of a B bid........do you think Aurora may be worthy of a pool C bid which would allow four of these teams in? any comments on who may be on the bubble?

Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) · January 17, 2007, 08:56:23 AM

The Pool B's get handed out before the Pool C's so for a B school to get a C bid, the fourth best B has to be worthy of a C bid, not the best.

Also, I think those may change a little when both the regional rankings and the QOWI are factored in. I just can't wee Westminster having any kind of decent schedule number.