Who Is running the Grinnell system?

[hjmphelp]

Nice catch, Digs! I been scooped!

(of course it is an exhibition game, right?)

[TeeDub]

Plus, I don't expect UCR to be a 'Grinnell' style of system play...they will most likely be a LMU style.  Coach Spencer was an assistant at LMU during the Gathers/Kimble era.

[digs]

JR,

You may be right on that on LMU influence.   UC Riverside did shoot 30 treys in their 162-123 victory. 

Interesting opening game macth up for Riverside against Dick Bennett's  Washington State team.  St Norbert's coach DeNoble's style is heavily influenced by coach Bennett.  Maybe we should get each coach some old game tapes of the MWC games.

[hjmphelp]

I've been told that Redlands had a great run at the beginning and scored 24 points in the first few minutes before the DI guys got shocked into playing.

This may be Redlands year to make a few waves!

[smedindy]

According to the UC - Riverside's media guide, they call it "The System" and alludes to the Loyola Marymount teams of old. They want to take 100 shots a game and play a full court press defense.

They will be on TV on Fox Sports West 2 on January 21 against Long Beach State - 5:00 California time.

[hjmphelp]

Jordis Rocks can tell us if they really play full system ball at Riverside.

[systemfan86]

From the box score of the UCR-Redlands game it appears that UCR came closer to some of the System goals than Redlands did, but less than 30% of their 114 shots were from 3pt range. Considering how many 2pt shots they (UCR) took, they really didn't have a great shooting percentage; at least not what most System opponents shoot.

http://www.redlands.edu/prebuilt/pdf/athletics/2006basketball_mens/ur-ucrex.htm

[hjmphelp]

Grinnell College Alumni basketball game is scheduled for Saturday night at 7:00pm (following the womens' alumni game at 5:00pm). Lots of great players headed back including Wood, Nordlund the elder,  and Malinowski. This could be great fun and will give us all a chance to see how much the newbies have learned in 3 weeks of organized (?) practice.

this is open to the public and as are all GC sporting events, free of charge.

[Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan)]

So Jeff, do the alumni runs the system too when they come to play?  It seems like a team led by Wood and Nordland could do some dammage to the young squad in there now.

[hjmphelp]

Yup, in recent years they do run it. SOme of the early system players always come back, and some aren't in such great shape, but it is always a fun game. To my knowledge, the alums have never won, but they have come close. Depends on who else shows. One of the better players is 58 years old and can adapt to the system, believe it or not!

[albinomascot19]

Tri State University (IN) of MIAA Conference runs similar to the Grinnell system.  But really what is the point to running it.  When they were on ESPN2, they didnt seem to perform to their maximum output.   By the way why not just play a really basketball game, rather than just throwing up a certain amount of shots a game.  Isnt the goal here to win a game, or should a team just be throwing up crazy shot after crazy shot.  Whats the point in having a great team scoring average, but still lose a lot of ball games, and then not make the NCAA Tournament.  I think the System is flawed.  It is basically all about offense, and no real concentration on defense. 

[digs]

Albinomascot19,

I'm afraid you're in for it now.  I'll let the others respond to the exact details, but is suffices to say that after decades of losing seasons what you call real basketball wasn't working for the schools that run the system.  Since going with the system most of these teams have improved their winning percentage and Grinnell has actually won conference titles and played in the NCAAs.  Sometimes thinking outside the box pays off...

Go Alumni!!! Especially Gordy.

[hjmphelp]

Idda know, digs. After years of this crap, I'm pretty tired of responding to the yabbaroons myself.


Sorry to say that Gordy won't be back this year according to his daughter. He lives too far away.

[smedindy]

There's always room for thinking outside the box. I myself prefer a Princeton style offense, and would love to see a matchup of a team like that against the system. Would matter meet anti-matter? The gym could asplode!

[hjmphelp]

No one has tried anything approaching the Princeton style against Grinnell recently with much success. In past years when Grinnell has been hot, the deliberate offenses/defenses have been blown out of their game within a few minutes. Knox has used a slow down style the last few years and has played very well against some good Grinnell teams. Extremely talented teams like Ripon, Lawrence and Carroll have been able to play with the  good Grinnell teams, stay with "the system"-even mess with it a bit- and win some games.

It should be a little harder to do this year...I hope.