Who Is running the Grinnell system?

[Mr. Ypsi]

I say, let's settle this on the court - someone arrange a game of Princeton (NOT 'Princeton-style') vs. Grinnell!

But I fear that Smed may be right - the conjuction of matter and anti-matter might take out the entire surrounding county! 

[smedindy]

I think some other teams of recent vintage have out-Princetoned Princeton - Air Force, Samford, etc.

I'm surprised more D-3 teams don't try to do THAT offense, like say Hiram or Oberlin, where you only have a roster of 9 to 12 at most.

Acutally, the real test would be to play how a small high school in Indiana did in the 80's. Western Boone went to the sweet 16 by just holding the ball. They won a regional game 16-14. Can't really do that with a shot clock, but that's the anti-matter to the system.

On another note, Tri-State will visit Wabash this year, so I'll see if Tri-State does do this system up close and personal.

[Mr. Ypsi]

Yeah, we may need to 'channel' Pete Carrill's (sp?) Princeton teams to do this right!

I mean, ya gotta have the inventor of Grinnell ball vs. the inventor of Princeton ball to REALLY test this out!

Now, shot clock or no shot clock?  (Obviously irrelevant for Grinnell, and Pete seems to have adapted pretty well - OK, shot clock!)

[hjmphelp]

My understanding is that Tri state has either abandoned the system or has modified it beyond recognition. We will have to see what happens.

Grinnell would relish the thought of facing a "Princeton System", but would probably rather face an acolyte first rather than the father's team.

[Mr. Ypsi]

Score tonight:  UC-Riverside 162, Redlands 123.

Unless I'm misremembering, they both play variants of Grinnell/Marymount ball; any reactions?

[hjmphelp]

Mr Ypsi-
check out the discussion on page 5.

[smedindy]

Wabash plays host to Tri-State in December, so we'll see first hand what they run.

[hjmphelp]

It won't be the system-will probably more resemble LM style run and gun.

[Mr. Ypsi]

Mr Ypsi-
check out the discussion on page 5.

Yikes - how did I come up with a week-and-a-half old score and think it was today's?

EMU is obviously working me too hard!

[Mr. Ypsi]

Ah Ha!, just found the source of my befuddlement!  On the SCIAC board, the score was posted yesterday as though it were news!

Serves me right for reading virtually 'dead' boards!

But, hey, if I don't read 'em, who will? 

[hjmphelp]

What's the story, Cabonney? Doncha have any grad students to do the research for you this year?

[Mr. Ypsi]

What's the story, Cabonney? Doncha have any grad students to do the research for you this year?

Maybe I'd be better off going back to that - my own research is obviously rather sloppy!

[heatlee]

UCR just got blown out by Washington State using "their system".  UCR does not use the same "system" as Grinnell.  They use the same type of uptempo game as Loyola Marymount used when Paul Westhead was there.

This type of play while exciting has never paid off with any sort of national title, and probably never will.  Defense wins championships.

[hjmphelp]

Well now lets see. There are maybe 5 teams playing system style ball at the D3 level and 2 or 3 playing LM style at the D1 level. The system has been around for about 14 years. Seems God  er, Heatlee is a bit impatient, don't you think? That aside from missing the whole point of playing this style anyway. But since winning is everything...

[smedindy]

I'm surprised Tri-State backed off after just one year and went to L-M style, perhaps. The MIAA isn't an easy place to play hoops, and I think they'd have more success if they stuck with it longer.

Who else is playing it thus far?