Who Is running the Grinnell system?

[smedindy]

Yeah, thats why I hardly watch it (D1) anymore. Too jaded by up tempo stuff with a different type of defensive emphasis. Not that it is wrong, I just don't care for it for 40 minutes straight.

It's funny, though, I prefer a good, tight defensive game light I perfer pitchers duels in baseball. Make 'em work for points, but that may be the Hoosier in me talking. 

[Knightstalker]

I prefer that also, I like 10 to 7 football games also.

[hjmphelp]

Now, I love a pitchers duel too, and thought the first half of the Rose Bowl game was the best half. And I love basketball defense as well-the way Grinnell plays it anyway.

[TeeDub]

It's funny, though, I prefer a good, tight defensive game light I perfer pitchers duels in baseball.

I'm impressed by a good pitcher's talent, but I don't like those games.  Roger Clemens can go out and win a game no matter how poor the players behind him are...

...that may carry over to some programs that bring in a STUD player and manufacture wins through him...the System really does rely on all 5 players on the court.  The trapping, rotations and all-out sprints on defense and the screens, offensive boards and assist makers compliment the shooters.  Neither can exist on their own.

[smedindy]

Baseball's a totally different thing. Even a horrid team will get a win over a champ now and then. A nice crisp 2-1 game with good pitching and defense is always a thing o' beauty.

As far as basketball, I don't think building a team around one guy, in college, gets it done.  One man gangs tend to fizzle.  Plus, the unsung heroes in many systems to the dirty work, set screens, play D, take charges make sure the switches are right, box out, things that really don't go on the stat sheet. So even a one-man band has four others that are doing the little things.

[Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan)]

Unless its actually a one man band, like the Dick Van Dyke character in Mary Poppins.

[TeeDub]

Plus, the unsung heroes in many systems to the dirty work, set screens, play D, take charges make sure the switches are right, box out, things that really don't go on the stat sheet. So even a one-man band has four others that are doing the little things.

oh, so it sounds like the "System" is more like "conventional" teams than some would make it out to be.

Thanks, Smed, for helping me make the point.

[smedindy]

What point was that? Using all five players is not some magic elixir the system devised? This isn't the NBA, where everyone goes one-on-one!

[TeeDub]

What point was that? Using all five players is not some magic elixir the system devised? This isn't the NBA, where everyone goes one-on-one!

That is exactly my point.  The System is NOT so unique to be excluded from the game.  There are many who contend that the "System" is not basketball.  My contention is quite contrary to that belief.  The System is VERY basketball...and it includes many if not all of the same disciplines as many other styles of play.  The method or application is different, but the disciplines are similar.

The point I am referring to, simply put, is that as you have described in your previous post and I in mine, THE SYSTEM IS BASKETBALL.

[smedindy]

I don't think I was saying it wasn't. No need to get defensive!

[TeeDub]

Smed,

I apologize for the defensive tone.  I was really writing to those who read the thread more than to you specifically.  I appreciate all the things you said.  Thanks for engaging.

JR

[Mr. Ypsi]

What point was that? Using all five players is not some magic elixir the system devised? This isn't the NBA, where everyone goes one-on-one!

Smed, you need to modify that slightly - the Pistons don't do one-on-one, which is why they've been in the Finals two years straight, and this year are on pace to challenge the Bull's all-time record of 72 wins.  Team ball DOES win, even in the NBA!

[hjmphelp]

I thought I would let those of you who are interested know that todays Grinnell College vs Illinois College game is being webcast at 3:00(CST) at

www.kgrn1410.com

With GC coming off a loss at Carthage, and knowing the mindset of some of the players on this team, this could be a real burn 'em down game.

Go Pioneers!

[jeffdc]

For those interested in seeing the GC team in action against one of the best teams in their conference, there is a webcast tonight (Friday, 1/13) at 7:30 CST. Click this link to watch:

https://www.naluexchange.com/questions.php?eventId=68

And enjoy!   

[digs]

I don't think I was saying it wasn't. No need to get defensive!

I found it ironic that a system "defender" is getting razzed for being defensive since we all know that system teams don't play defense.