WBB: NEWMAC

[MVP]

Another busy week for Babson

They face conference opponents WPI and Mt Holyoke ..both away from home ice advantage.

[Roundball999]

Wow, Babson draws alot of attention when they lose , very little when they win.

I think that says more about the posters than Babson . With the win today Babson  extends their conference win streak to 75. Weak division or not , thats impressive.  No off night in almost 4 years. Thats impressive. They play and win in their division, nothing they can do about that.

NEWMAC CHAMPIONS 2012, 2011, 2010,2009
NCAA ELITE EIGHT 2010 & 2011
NCAA , 2009 & 2012

Yet the attention comes when they lose to Depauw#1 in the country and a very good Williams( NESCAC) team the other night.

Collins's numbers and intangibles speak for themselves.  With today's win over the Coast Guard Academy, Babson's record increases to 16-2. Collins surpassed 1000 rebounds tonight! 

Babson will make tourney for the 5th straight year and hopefully w/ a very young team ...7 frosh ....will advance beyond 2nd round.

Thanks for the attention. All publicity is good!  See you in march!

Good teams always get more discussion these boards when they lose.  Wins are expected, losses are fodder for discussion.  It's not all about Babson, get used to it.  But hyperbole and over the top self promotion will probably also attract extra comments following losses, as will disrespecting others' opinions with terms like "some joeblow".  It's a discussion board, not just a praise board.

[NE Hoop Guy]

I agree that Babson has always seemed to draw a bit more attention on here when they lose then when they win.  Probably because during the last three seasons Babson has been the second best team in the Northeast and some of the long time experts on this board hate that.  It is pretty impressive stuff given how many good teams there are and were over that period that a small business small school could zoom past all but one of them and rise to national prominence.  Despite this not being a praise board, the recognition of that  has been a bit lacking, notwithstanding the final polls each of the last three years have confirmed it.

Therefore, I am not sure why people now want to start being critical of Babson players now.  I am sure Babson would like not to have to play 18 NEWMAC games themselves, but they have to.   To win 75 in a row however, is impressive, requires talent and persistence.  I don't see other "good" teams in "weak" leagues (i.e. UNE or Emmanuel) doing such things. The competition may not be strong throughout, and maybe Babson is not quite as explosive  this year,  but there are some good teams and over 75 games not one slip.  That includes ten so far this year and no one else in the conference can seem to make double digits winning streaks ever.  So they still have talent and ability that cant be denied.

It is unfair to suggest that Collins was outplayed by Beacher on Friday night.  First of all I am not sure statistically or visually that was the case.  However, Beacher has an experienced team around her, whereas Collins is essentially alone now, relying on the support of a lot of young players who are good and will get better, but do not yet have the big game experience.  Collins was doubled to tripled by talented experienced players every time she got the ball, a smart move by Williams, yet she still had a decent game.  The bottom line here is both of these kids are elite D-3 players, let's not take anything away from either by suggesting their stats are suspect or one is better than the other.

[Roundball999]

Actually, I didn't say BABSON draws more attention when they lose, I said good teams in general get a lot of comments and discussion when they lose.  The obvious implication being that no one is picking on or singling out Babson.   Similarly, Babson has higher enrollment than Amherst and many other D3 schools so I can't imagine why anyone would be upset that a "small business school could zoom past" other schools, it doesn't fit. 

As for recognition, as you yourself pointed out Babson has been duly recognized in national polls and their outstanding individuals have also been recognized nationally.  What more could you possibly be expecting?

As I said, Collins is a very good player.  I did not say Baecher was better, I said that for this one game Baecher outplayed Collins.  No one has their best game every night.  Look at the boxscore, statistically Baecher had a better game. I watched the game, it was also my opinion Baecher had a better game.  Collins was obviously a threat in the low block, and Williams defense responded accordingly which led to Collins' 6 turnovers.  I thought Baecher showed a bit more versatility that game, hitting a three and seeming comfortable facing up from the high post and putting the ball on the floor.  But this was just one game, Collins has the body of work to demonstrate she is the better player and has been clearly recognized as such.    Others may have different opinions.

[MVP]

Fair enough....I welcome discussion, just not an over the top personal attack on what is literally her 2nd post to these boards. A silly argument, Collins is shooting over .516 % again this year .
Talking about a lack of discusssion .   Joeblow is her >>>handle/ contact email. No disrespect intended.

Despite the debate over NEWMAC being a weak conference .....the last three years Babson has an overall record in non-conference play of 22-7, Babson has reached the Elite Eight twice in that time frame losing to Amherst both times w/ non-conference wins over W Connecticut, Rhode Island, Emmanuel, Colby (twice) Bowdoin, Tufts , Gettysburg, Madaille, Geneseo and a second round loss to Amherst last year after knocking off Bridgewater in the 1st round.  Regardless of conference, thats impressive!

I've been looking to stimulate more discussion and debate from other NEWMAC fans on this NEWMAC board for more than a couple years. Look forward to more discussion about New England and particularly NEWMAC women's basketball going down the stretch this year and next.

The praise this week for Babson and Collins comes only after a couple weeks of extraordinary team and personal accomplishments.

My posts over the years have consistently been fair and balanced extending recognition, praise and analysis for all teams, regions, players and coaches.


Will it be Smith or Clark or Wellesley or WPI to challenge Babson for the title this year?

[MVP]

Babson retains Week 8 Top 25 spot  #24th

Babson needs to concentrate on winning the NEWMAC conference and retaining their title.

Big week on the road, WPI on Wednesday and Mt Holyoke on Saturday

http://www.d3hoops.com/top25/women/2012-13/week8

[MVP]

Congratulations to Rosa Drummond for winning NEWMAC player of the week and helping Smith remain undefeated at home!!

[MVP]

Congratulations to Smith for beating NESCAC power house Williams tonight at Smith College. Smith remains undefeated at home this year.
Huge win for Smith heading into February.

[MVP]

Congratulations to Babson for extending their conference win streak to 78 games

[MVP]

Congratulations to Babson for getting it done this week over Wellesley and Wheaton going 2-0 this week and extending their conference win streak to 79 games .

Another tough week ahead with Babson facing MIT at home on Wednesday and a huge contest next Saturday on the road against conference foe Smith. The winner of this game will likely host the NEWMAC conference semi-finals and final.

Prior to the game, there was a brief ceremony in honor of Babson seniors Sarah Collins, Rina Mallios, and tri-captain Allanah Wynn.   Together, the trio has helped lead the Beavers to an incredible overall record of 103-10, including two NCAA Elite Eight appearances and a perfect 75-0 mark against NEWMAC foes. Their .912 winning percentage is the highest of any class in program history.

[remsleep]

You heard it here first....MIT ends Babson's 79 game winning streak in the NEWMAC on Wednesday night.  56-55 MIT wins at Staake.

[joe8579]

I'm not sure MIT can score 56 against Babson. If you said 46-45, then I might be on board.

[NE Hoop Guy]

There is no way Babson loses at home to MIT.  I assume these posts are just trying to stir it up.  Babson has a major road test Saturday against Smith. It will be a tough game, smith has good players, but Babson is in their head. Rosa Drummond is real good, but Sarah is a tough match up for her, she can't handle it.  I say she will have to wait until next year, and Babson will stay undefeated. Should be a good game.

[remsleep]

Well so much for my prediction of MIT over Babson.  Way too much Sarah Collins who played a great offensive game in the post for the Bears....give MITcredit for playing them even through the first half but Babson just rode Collins' back especially in second half.   I think, even at 20-2 it is a fair assessment to note that the gap has narrowed significantly between Babson and several of the other NEWMAC teams ( notably Smith, of course).  Babson has earned its top 25 ranking so far....but I doubt they will go deep into the NCAA's.......but congrats to them for their success anyway.   By the way NEWMAC watchers...can anyone explain what the heck is wrong with Clark?

[MVP]

Congratulations to Babson for extending their conference win streak to 80 games with the win over MIT.