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Started by Pat Coleman, February 02, 2005, 12:01:07 AM

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GuyFormerlyPSBBG

Quote from: ronk on February 01, 2011, 01:39:50 AM
  Agreed, I was thinking he was using this as an argument for ranking Gallaudet #1 in the Mid-Atlantic, rather than CNU hosting an NCAA 1st round.

Sorry for that confusion.  Yeah I was just saying CNU would be ranked #1 in the Mid-Atlantic region.

Aside from that, those teams would be the ones I think they would host.

Although Gallaudet is in the Atlantic Region, how more Mid-Atlantic can you get in DC :)

troutman

I thought so..........Gallaudet could finish in the sweet 16 this year and they would probley get a 27 to 35 ranking from these voters this year.(lol)Not being in a strong conf. is killing them.We will keep trying to voice our opionion of our year on the floor.Hey has Lebanon Valley beat anyone in the top 25 yet?

sunny

Quote from: troutman on February 01, 2011, 12:45:30 PM
I thought so..........Gallaudet could finish in the sweet 16 this year and they would probley get a 27 to 35 ranking from these voters this year.(lol)Not being in a strong conf. is killing them.We will keep trying to voice our opionion of our year on the floor.Hey has Lebanon Valley beat anyone in the top 25 yet?

Hey, this voter has them at #17.  ;)

Pat Coleman

Quote from: troutman on February 01, 2011, 12:45:30 PM
I thought so..........Gallaudet could finish in the sweet 16 this year and they would probley get a 27 to 35 ranking from these voters this year.(lol)

Depends on who they beat to get there. You can get to the Sweet 16, even the Elite Eight without playing a ranked team.

It's not the Best 16, it's the Final 16.
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Quote from: old 40 on September 25, 2007, 08:23:57 PMLet's discuss (sports) in a positive way, sometimes kidding each other with no disrespect.

gadk

So in the eyes of USA Today pollsters Mount Union's 21 point loss was GOOD they gained 3 points and stayed as No. 22

troutman

I know 425 teams would love to be in that top 16 the rest of them are good!!!

gadk

Quote from: gadk on February 01, 2011, 02:34:50 PM
So in the eyes of USA Today pollsters Mount Union's 21 point loss was GOOD they gained 3 points and stayed as No. 22

Sorry was last monday so it was already taken into account in last weeks usa today poll

troutman

Hey Pat, any thought on this weather comming across mid west?How many games will be postpond?

GuyFormerlyPSBBG

Quote from: troutman on February 01, 2011, 12:45:30 PM
I thought so..........Gallaudet could finish in the sweet 16 this year and they would probley get a 27 to 35 ranking from these voters this year.(lol)Not being in a strong conf. is killing them.We will keep trying to voice our opionion of our year on the floor.Hey has Lebanon Valley beat anyone in the top 25 yet?


If you makes you feel any better.  The "BCS" version of the massey ratings has Gallaudet #1

http://www.masseyratings.com/rate.php?lg=cbw&yr=2011&sub=NCAA%20III&mid=6

I took a look at the final BCS Massey Ratings from last season.

Amherst   
Washington MO   
Hope   
IL Wesleyan

3 of the 4 final four teams listed.

Still a long way to go.  I expect those Massey Ratings to align a little more with "normalcy" as the season continues.

   

Pat Coleman

I don't know if the BCS version of the Massey Ratings will ever correspond with normalcy. The BCS rankings ignore margin of victory in order to satisfy the guidelines of the most screwed-up "championship" on the planet. :)

With margin of victory included, Gallaudet is ranked 189th! in Division III.

http://www.masseyratings.com/rate.php?lg=cbw&yr=2011&sub=NCAA%20III&mid=1

No, winning by 50 is not the answer. Computer rankings cap margin of victory after a certain number of points so that there is no difference between beating a team by, say, 20 or by 50.

Beating bad teams by a little will impress the BCS but not a true computer rating. And Massey sees Gallaudet's schedule as such: One game against Lebanon Valley, 46th in its Division III ranking, then no other games against anyone in the Top 229 of Division III. (Basically, the top half of Division III.)

As far as the weather -- up here in Minnesota we are clear of the big storm but I would suspect very very few games get played in the storm zone. The MIAA called off its Wednesday games already, for example.
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Quote from: old 40 on September 25, 2007, 08:23:57 PMLet's discuss (sports) in a positive way, sometimes kidding each other with no disrespect.

Pat Coleman

Quote from: gadk on February 01, 2011, 02:41:23 PM
Quote from: gadk on February 01, 2011, 02:34:50 PM
So in the eyes of the coaches poll pollsters Mount Union's 21 point loss was GOOD they gained 3 points and stayed as No. 22

Sorry was last monday so it was already taken into account in last weeks coaches poll


The coaches' poll is pretty vague, actually. There's some voters who vote on Monday and apparently some on Tuesday. No idea what day they vote through. It says this at the bottom of the poll:

"*Please note that all voters for the DIII poll are required to vote each week between 10 p.m. Sunday and 1 p.m. Tuesday ET."

So, who knows which of the eight voters considered that Monday night game.
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Quote from: old 40 on September 25, 2007, 08:23:57 PMLet's discuss (sports) in a positive way, sometimes kidding each other with no disrespect.

troutman

Well finaly someone(massey rankings)have Gallaudet where they should be!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!(LOL) Thanks guy

Pat Coleman

Quote from: troutman on February 01, 2011, 06:05:33 PM
Well finaly someone(massey rankings)have Gallaudet where they should be!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!(LOL) Thanks guy

I disagree. 189th is really low. :)
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Quote from: old 40 on September 25, 2007, 08:23:57 PMLet's discuss (sports) in a positive way, sometimes kidding each other with no disrespect.

troutman

come on pat take off the 89 were no 1 baby LOL and of course i printed this off and im getting a 36x48 glossy of it for the wall

GuyFormerlyPSBBG

Quote from: Pat Coleman on February 01, 2011, 06:06:31 PM
Quote from: troutman on February 01, 2011, 06:05:33 PM
Well finaly someone(massey rankings)have Gallaudet where they should be!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!(LOL) Thanks guy

I disagree. 189th is really low. :)

I guess all the numbers are low then, Greensboro must be at least #3 not #16 :)