Top 25 discussion

[sumfun]

Ypsi - checked on some of the same schools, but came up with 112 wins for last four years for Amherst.  To be mentioned in this group that puts up a lot of wins in the season and goes deep into the the tourney each years is an accomplishment that 400 other schools would love to claim.  What's a shame is that many of these teams are judged by their success for two days in mid March and not the whole body of work over their career.

[Mr. Ypsi]

Ypsi - checked on some of the same schools, but came up with 112 wins for last four years for Amherst.  To be mentioned in this group that puts up a lot of wins in the season and goes deep into the the tourney each years is an accomplishment that 400 other schools would love to claim.  What's a shame is that many of these teams are judged by their success for two days in mid March and not the whole body of work over their career.

You are correct about Amherst.  Thanks.  I've amended my original post.

[Out_Of_My_Kitchen]

I found the answer to Wash U wins.  It was 116 wins during the 4 peat.  A couple reasons for it not being longer are:

1. No conference tournament in the UAA.  They lose out on most likely 8-12 wins there if they had the conference tournament depending on 4 team conference tournament or 8 team conference tournament format.   

2. The NCAA tournament was not as long either.  There were not as many pool C bids, meaning 5 games were needed to win the tournament, not 6 as it will be this year. 

116-4 record for that group.  96.7% winning percentage. 

[GuyFormerlyPSBBG]

I haven't been around all weekend.  I was caught a bug and was sick (it wasn't from the GC loss to CNU.)  How anyone catches a cold in FL, I have no idea but I did.

The CNU-GC game resulted the way I thought it would.  Actually the game was closer than I thought it was going to be.  It doesn't mean I think CNU is underrated or GC is overrated.  The Freeman center is a very tough place to play.  (I remember reading a story earlier in the year, CNU women have the longest active home winning streak among all 3 divisions.  I am not 100% certain on that, but I believe it to be accurate.)

Only 2 players for the Pride have the Freeman Center, big game experience.  (a couple of players are left from last years team, but they do not have that experience.)

I am sure Greensboro makes 3's in practice, but it hasn't translated onto the court and it needs too.  Teams do a good job of making adjustments.  I've seen some soft double teams on Duncan (someone playing over the top and someone playing underneath.)  Resulting in a bunch of outside shots, because teams are making it very difficult to get the ball inside.  There are a few things I would do ease it up, but that is whole other discussion.

4-25 from 3pt range is not good for any team.

[Flying Dutch Fan]

As mentioned earlier, the current Hope senior class is at 114-6, a 0.950 winning percentage.  That 114 includes 68-0 at home, 39-3 as a visitor, and 7-3 on a neutral court. 

Should Hope win their conference tournament (they are picked to win it by most MIAA followers) they would enter the NCAA tournament with 117, and a real chance to set a new record.

FWIW - Hope's current streak of home wins is at 74 which I believe is 2 or 3 wins behind the current streak for the UConn women. 

[Dave 'd-mac' McHugh]

Final Regional Rankings before Selection Sunday: http://www.d3blogs.com/d3hoops/category/ncaa-stuff/regional-rankings/

[Darryl Nester]

How They Fared (So Far)

No SOS numbers this time (they're on my other computer).  A few team schedules were not updated with conference tournament games, so they show up as blank ... and I did not have time to track those down this morning.

Top 25

Rank	Pts	Team	W-L	Results
#1	609	Thomas More	26-0	def. Thiel, 68-47; 02/25 vs. Grove City
#2	601	Amherst	24-1	02/26 vs. #26 Williams
#3	580	Hope	25-1	def. Adrian, 103-42
#4	543	UW-Stevens Point	23-2	02/25 vs. UW-River Falls
#5	503	Kean	22-4	LOST to Rutgers-Newark, 51-54
#6	501	Babson	25-0	02/26 vs. Springfield
#7	451	Illinois Wesleyan	21-4	def. Augustana, 71-39; 02/25 vs. Carthage
#8	441	Chicago	21-3	02/26 at #9 Washington U.
#9	413	Washington U.	20-4	02/26 vs. #8 Chicago
#10	385	DePauw	22-3	02/25 vs. Colorado College
#11	375	Denison	26-0	def. Wooster, 75-40; 02/25 vs. Kenyon
#12	320	Christopher Newport	23-3	def. Mary Baldwin, 92-37; 02/25 vs. Ferrum
#13	310	Greensboro	25-1	def. Peace, 83-47; 02/25 vs. Methodist
#14	276	Louisiana College	22-2	LOST at Mississippi College, 84-86; 02/25 at Mary Hardin-Baylor
#15	264	Rochester	19-5	02/26 at Emory
#16	237	St. Norbert	21-2	02/25 vs. Illinois College
#17	222	Lebanon Valley	24-2	def. Alvernia, 55-38
#18	209	Mount Union	23-3	def. Otterbein, 70-52; 02/24 vs. Capital
#19	155	St. Vincent	23-3	def. Chatham, 64-47; 02/25 vs. Waynesburg
#20	133	William Paterson	23-3	def. Montclair State, 79-68; 02/26 vs. Rutgers-Newark
#21	121	UW-Whitewater	20-5
#22	91	Calvin	22-4	def. Kalamazoo, 84-57
#23	82	Mount St. Mary	23-2
#24	61	Bowdoin	21-4	02/26 at Colby
#25	60	Coe	22-3	02/24 vs. Loras

Others receiving votes

Rank	Pts	Team	W-L	Results
#26	48	Williams	21-4	02/26 at #2 Amherst
#27	30	Hanover	23-1	02/26 vs. TBA
#28	23	George Fox	20-5	02/24 vs. Puget Sound
#29	22	Western Connecticut	21-3	02/25 vs. Rhode Island College
#30	19	Medaille	21-3	02/25 vs. Penn State-Behrend
#31	16	Lewis and Clark	20-5	02/24 vs. Whitman
#32	12	Johns Hopkins	20-4	02/26 vs. Franklin and Marshall
#33	5	Gallaudet	23-2	02/26 vs. SUNYIT/Penn St.-Berks; 02/27 vs. TBD
#34	3	Wheaton (Ill.)	18-6	02/25 vs. Millikin
#35	2	St. Thomas	19-6
T#36	1	UW-La Crosse	20-6	def. UW-Oshkosh, 67-59
T#36	1	Wisconsin Lutheran	23-3	def. Milwaukee Engineering, 76-55; 02/24 vs. Benedictine

[David Collinge]

Thanks, Darryl.  I like this better without the SOS listed.  Of course, I'm a Denison fan, so...

[WLCALUM83]

2/24 Final:  Wisconsin Lutheran 78, Benedictine 70 

Wisconsin Lutheran's next game:  2/26 vs. Concordia-WI  (NAthCon Tournament Final)

[ichouse]

This weeks surprises

1.)    #5   503   Kean   22-4   LOST to Rutgers-Newark, 51-54
2.)  #14   276   Louisiana College   22-2   LOST at Mississippi College, 84-86; and LOST  to Howard Payne     83-69
3.) #24   61   Bowdoin   21-4 LOST to Amherst •    L, 72-37 not the outcome but by the ease Amherst won

[Ralph Turner]

This weeks surprises

1.)    #5   503   Kean   22-4   LOST to Rutgers-Newark, 51-54
2.)  #14   276   Louisiana College   22-2   LOST at Mississippi College, 84-86; and LOST  to Howard Payne     83-69
3.) #24   61   Bowdoin   21-4 LOST to Amherst •    L, 72-37 not the outcome but by the ease Amherst won

The Mississippi College game is a rivalry game.  The Golden Dome at Clinton MS can be a rockin' place.

As for the loss at HPU, HPU had a very slow start this season, but the Lady Jackets have been playing the best ball in the conference.

Also in the tourney final, HPU's home court, the Brownwood Coliseum is a hard one to play in, both shooting and when the HPU fans get into the game.

[sumfun]

After taking the pedal off the metal and giving up some of their big lead to Williams yesterday, I think Amherst was determined today to keep the hammer down.

[Darryl Nester]

How They Fared (Complete)

The final report, in case you missed a score this weekend ...

The distribution of the SOS scores in this list (not ALL SOS scores):

• Mean = 0.533, SD = 0.0405
• min = 0.468, Q₁ = 0.5040, Med = 0.528, Q₃ = 0.5620, max = 0.615

Top 25

Rank	Pts	Team	W-L	SOS	Results
#1	609	Thomas More	28-0	0.516	def. Thiel, 68-47; def. Grove City, 66-54; def. #19 St. Vincent, 66-55
#2	601	Amherst	26-1	0.611	def. #26 Williams, 71-64; def. #24 Bowdoin, 72-37
#3	580	Hope	26-2	0.504	def. Adrian, 103-42; def. Trine, 66-47; LOST at #22 Calvin, 65-67
#4	543	UW-Stevens Point	25-2	0.570	def. UW-River Falls, 65-54; def. #21 UW-Whitewater, 73-53
#5	503	Kean	22-4	0.593	LOST to Rutgers-Newark, 51-54
#6	501	Babson	27-0	0.484	def. Springfield, 82-64; def. Smith, 74-49
#7	451	Illinois Wesleyan	23-4	0.600	def. Augustana, 71-39; def. Carthage, 77-69; def. #34 Wheaton (Ill.), 67-57
#8	441	Chicago	22-3	0.531	def. #9 Washington U., 61-51
#9	413	Washington U.	20-5	0.534	LOST to #8 Chicago, 51-61
#10	385	DePauw	25-3	0.504	def. Colorado College, 67-42; def. Trinity (Texas), 73-53; def. Hendrix, 80-71
#11	375	Denison	28-0	0.470	def. Wooster, 75-40; def. Kenyon, 80-72; def. Allegheny, 72-54
#12	320	Christopher Newport	25-3	0.539	def. Mary Baldwin, 92-37; def. Ferrum, 71-52; def. #13 Greensboro, 53-47
#13	310	Greensboro	26-2	0.517	def. Peace, 83-47; def. Methodist, 69-40; LOST to #12 Christopher Newport, 47-53
#14	276	Louisiana College	24-3	0.504	LOST at Mississippi College, 84-86; def. Mary Hardin-Baylor, 64-54; def. Hardin-Simmons, 70-62; LOST at Howard Payne, 69-83
#15	264	Rochester	20-5	0.552	def. Emory, 81-72
#16	237	St. Norbert	23-2	0.479	def. Illinois College, 63-41; def. Monmouth, 56-54
#17	222	Lebanon Valley	25-2	0.547	def. Alvernia, 55-38; def. Messiah, 51-33
#18	209	Mount Union	25-3	0.507	def. Otterbein, 70-52; def. Capital, 79-55; def. John Carroll, 92-84
#19	155	St. Vincent	24-4	0.528	def. Chatham, 64-47; def. Waynesburg, 70-53; LOST at #1 Thomas More, 55-66
#20	133	William Paterson	24-3	0.572	def. Montclair State, 79-68; def. Rutgers-Newark, 63-49
#21	121	UW-Whitewater	21-6	0.575	def. T#36 UW-La Crosse, 71-59; LOST at #4 UW-Stevens Point, 53-73
#22	91	Calvin	24-4	0.482	def. Kalamazoo, 84-57; def. Albion, 63-36; def. #3 Hope, 67-65
#23	82	Mount St. Mary	25-2	0.552	def. SUNY-Old Westbury, 71-59; def. Farmingdale State, 71-50
#24	61	Bowdoin	22-5	0.606	def. Colby, 79-63; LOST at #2 Amherst, 37-72
#25	60	Coe	24-3	0.519	def. Loras, 54-51; def. Simpson, 59-56

Others receiving votes

Rank	Pts	Team	W-L	SOS	Results
#26	48	Williams	21-5	0.615	LOST at #2 Amherst, 64-71
#27	30	Hanover	25-1	0.468	def. Manchester, 93-65; def. Transylvania, 82-71
#28	23	George Fox	22-5	0.534	def. Puget Sound, 62-56; def. #31 Lewis and Clark, 76-68
#29	22	Western Connecticut	23-3	0.554	def. Rhode Island College, 77-68; def. Eastern Connecticut, 74-58
#30	19	Medaille	22-4	0.476	def. Penn State-Behrend, 60-59; LOST at La Roche, 54-62
#31	16	Lewis and Clark	21-6	0.523	def. Whitman, 60-51; LOST to #28 George Fox, 68-76
#32	12	Johns Hopkins	21-5	0.528	def. Franklin and Marshall, 71-59; LOST to Muhlenberg, 61-72
#33	5	Gallaudet	24-3	0.487	def. SUNYIT, 53-44; LOST to Keuka, 46-50
#34	3	Wheaton (Ill.)	19-7	0.539	def. Millikin, 58-55; LOST at #7 Illinois Wesleyan, 57-67
#35	2	St. Thomas	20-7	0.519	def. Gustavus Adolphus, 50-48; LOST to Concordia-Moorhead, 61-71
T#36	1	UW-La Crosse	20-7	0.574	def. UW-Oshkosh, 67-59; LOST at #21 UW-Whitewater, 59-71
T#36	1	Wisconsin Lutheran	25-3	0.505	def. Milwaukee Engineering, 76-55; def. Benedictine, 78-70; def. Concordia (Wis.), 76-67

[BlueZoneBruin]

Pat (or anyone),

Is there a new Top 25 prior to the start of the tournament? I know there is one at the end, but just can't remember. Obviously "Selection Monday" will most likely delay it, if it is to come prior to the games this week.

[Pat Coleman]

Yes and yes -- there is a poll but it is likely to be later than usual on Monday.