Top 25 discussion

[Darryl Nester]

How They Fared (Complete)

Top 25

Rank	Pts	Team	W-L	Results
#1	625	DePauw	8-0	won at Spalding, 79-53
#2	575	Washington U.	8-1	won at Fontbonne, 83-53; def. Loras, 67-44
#3	555	Montclair State	7-1	LOST at Vassar, 58-63; won at Marymount, 71-47
#4	539	Amherst	8-0	won at Albertus Magnus, 81-55; def. Bridgewater State, 86-73
#5	512	Whitman	8-0	def. Corban College, 80-57; def. Eastern Oregon, 78-65
#6	493	Hope	9-0	def. Finlandia, 78-46; def. Capital, 93-68
#7	461	Thomas More	8-0	won at Chatham, 96-52
#8	416	Tufts	8-0	IDLE
#9	394	UW-Whitewater	8-1	def. #19 UW-Stevens Point, 80-69
#10	390	St. Thomas	7-1	def. Macalester, 62-36; won at Hamline, 85-58; def. St. Benedict, 60-36
#11	387	George Fox	6-0	IDLE
#12	351	Williams	8-0	IDLE
#13	338	Emory	7-0	won at Agnes Scott, 74-38
#14	276	FDU-Florham	8-0	IDLE
#15	260	Carthage	7-1	IDLE
#16	239	Wheaton (Ill.)	8-1	won at Clarke, 75-51
#17	180	Rhodes	7-0	won at Southwestern, 64-56; won at Austin, 68-52
#18	177	Ithaca	5-1	12/14 vs. #24 John Carroll postponed
#19	166	UW-Stevens Point	6-2	LOST at #9 UW-Whitewater, 69-80; def. Chicago, 67-64
#20	156	Randolph-Macon	8-1	IDLE
#21	132	York (Pa.)	8-0	IDLE
#22	89	UW-Oshkosh	9-0	won at UW-La Crosse, 51-42
#23	69	Christopher Newport	6-2	won at Lynchburg, 75-70
#24	61	John Carroll	6-0	won at Heidelberg, 91-79; 12/14 at #18 Ithaca postponed
#25	46	Trinity (Texas)	8-2	IDLE

Others receiving votes

Rank	Pts	Team	W-L	Results
#26	41	Bowdoin	9-0	def. Worcester State, 76-41; def. Maine-Farmington, 70-65
#27	31	Ohio Northern	6-2	won at Ohio Wesleyan, 65-61; def. Muskingum, 81-71
#28	27	Cornell	6-2	def. Lawrence, 85-42; LOST to #34 St. Norbert, 47-64
#29	21	Moravian	8-1	def. Centenary (N.J.), 78-49; def. Merchant Marine, 85-53
#30	15	Texas-Dallas	5-1	IDLE
#31	14	Lebanon Valley	6-1	IDLE
T#32	12	Haverford	7-0	def. Penn State-Hazleton, 82-49; 12/14 at Immaculata postponed
T#32	12	Elizabethtown	6-0	IDLE
#34	10	St. Norbert	6-1	won at #28 Cornell, 64-47
T#35	5	Texas-Tyler	6-1	def. University of the Ozarks, 81-56
T#35	5	Louisiana College	4-1	IDLE
T#35	5	Geneseo State	5-1	IDLE
T#38	4	Juniata	5-2	IDLE
T#38	4	Baldwin Wallace	6-2	won at Wilmington, 85-39
#40	2	Concordia (Wis.)	8-0	def. Lakeland, 83-51
#41	1	U. of New England	6-1	IDLE

[Darryl Nester]

Just a note to say that I am not planning to post a "How They Fared" report this week.  I am assuming that the next poll comes out on Dec. 30 -- which would be consistent with past years.

[Darryl Nester]

How They Fared (So Far)
(see next post)

[Darryl Nester]

How They Fared (Complete)

Top 25

Rank	Pts	Team	W-L	Results
#1	625	DePauw	12-0	def. Alma, 70-40; def. #18 Ithaca, 65-47; won at Allegheny, 73-56; won at Hiram, 87-52
#2	583	Washington U.	10-1	won at Millikin, 69-53; def. Webster, 80-47
#3	558	Amherst	10-0	won at #23 Vassar, 66-53; def. Marywood, 73-49
#4	529	Whitman	11-0	def. Warner Pacific, 83-51; won at Willamette, 76-45; won at Pacific, 78-58
#5	495	Hope	12-0	def. Eastern, 74-61; won at UW-La Crosse, 75-70; won at Trine, 82-38
#6	478	Thomas More	11-0	def. Chicago, 91-68; won at Centre, 73-38; won at Washington and Jefferson, 96-62
#7	428	Tufts	10-0	won at Hartwick, 66-51; won at Regis (Mass.), 74-56
#8	422	UW-Whitewater	9-3	LOST at #16 Carthage, 77-91; LOST to #35 Ohio Northern, 67-68; won at UW-River Falls, 73-62
#9	406	St. Thomas	8-1	def. Carleton, 100-46
#10	397	George Fox	11-0	def. UC Santa Cruz, 74-45; def. Simpson (Cal.), 86-46; won at Howard Payne, 92-51; won at #26 Trinity (Texas), 82-58; won at Pacific Lutheran, 70-43
#11	375	Montclair State	11-1	def. #28 Moravian, 69-51; def. Westfield State, 73-62; won at Salisbury, 70-53; def. Rutgers-Camden, 68-37
#12	359	Williams	12-0	def. Babson, 56-47; won at Potsdam State, 65-42; def. RPI, 66-44; def. St. Lawrence, 50-38
#13	343	Emory	11-0	def. Bridgewater (Va.), 83-43; won at Randolph, 66-42; won at Piedmont, 73-70; def. Johns Hopkins, 72-67
#14	293	FDU-Florham	9-0	won at Central, 53-37
#15	266	Wheaton (Ill.)	10-1	won at Loras, 76-66; won at Millikin, 71-60
#16	253	Carthage	10-2	LOST to Coe, 66-78; won at Carroll, 88-61; def. #8 UW-Whitewater, 91-77; won at Augustana, 88-52
#17	217	Rhodes	9-1	won at Centenary (La.), 73-47; def. Westminster (Mo.), 83-48; LOST to Ferrum, 77-79
#18	180	Ithaca	7-3	won at Hanover, 77-70; LOST at #1 DePauw, 47-65; LOST at Hartwick, 60-63; won at Stevens, 78-69
#19	170	York (Pa.)	11-0	def. #22 UW-Stevens Point, 54-53; won at Oglethorpe, 76-42; won at Mary Washington, 53-35
#20	163	Randolph-Macon	9-2	def. Mount St. Vincent, 104-90; LOST at TCNJ, 73-84
#21	115	UW-Oshkosh	12-0	def. #29 St. Norbert, 58-56; def. Marian, 65-44; won at Simpson, 59-52
#22	86	UW-Stevens Point	9-3	LOST at #19 York (Pa.), 53-54; won at Rust, 71-67; won at Edgewood, 73-55; won at UW-La Crosse, 64-34
#23	84	Vassar	6-2	LOST to #3 Amherst, 53-66; LOST at Gwynedd-Mercy, 74-82
#24	55	John Carroll	9-0	def. Capital, 74-68; def. Ohio Christian, 92-55; def. Muskingum, 81-52
#25	51	Bowdoin	11-1	won at Rivier, 82-63; def. Gordon, 71-53; LOST at Rhode Island College, 61-72

Others receiving votes

Rank	Pts	Team	W-L	Results
#26	42	Trinity (Texas)	9-3	def. Illinois Wesleyan, 86-71; LOST to #10 George Fox, 58-82
#27	38	Christopher Newport	9-2	def. Salisbury, 78-68; def. Virginia Wesleyan, 62-40; def. Frostburg State, 82-44
#28	19	Moravian	10-2	LOST at #11 Montclair State, 51-69; def. John Jay, 84-49; def. Immaculata, 63-46
#29	10	St. Norbert	8-2	LOST at #21 UW-Oshkosh, 56-58; def. Carroll, 71-55; def. Lawrence, 76-30
T#30	9	Lebanon Valley	10-1	won at Shenandoah, 61-50; def. Arcadia, 65-39; def. Susquehanna, 68-42; def. Alvernia, 70-62
T#30	9	Haverford	7-0	IDLE
#32	8	Elizabethtown	8-0	def. Dickinson, 77-44; won at Hood, 71-54
T#33	7	Texas-Dallas	8-1	won at Sul Ross State, 97-65; def. T#33 Louisiana College, 75-61; def. Mississippi College, 68-53
T#33	7	Louisiana College	7-2	def. Mary Hardin-Baylor, 90-84; won at Centenary (La.), 65-47; LOST at T#33 Texas-Dallas, 61-75; won at Hardin-Simmons, 88-77
#35	6	Ohio Northern	9-3	def. Otterbein, 60-41; def. Baruch, 62-48; won at #8 UW-Whitewater, 68-67; LOST at Marietta, 64-72
#36	3	Texas-Tyler	10-1	def. LeTourneau, 75-69; def. East Texas Baptist, 82-65; won at Sul Ross State, 85-43; won at Howard Payne, 72-71
#37	2	Baldwin Wallace	9-2	def. Mount Union, 73-52; won at Waynesburg, 74-62; won at Otterbein, 81-69
T#38	1	Bethel	7-1	LOST at Buena Vista, 69-78; def. St. Benedict, 63-59
T#38	1	U. of New England	7-1	won at Endicott, 55-52

[hplc2222]

How come Washington U and NYU are in the same conference, the UAA, but Washinton is in the mid west region and NYU is in the east region?  Is this correct and is it the only example?

[mailsy]

How come Washington U and NYU are in the same conference, the UAA, but Washinton is in the mid west region and NYU is in the east region?  Is this correct and is it the only example?

The UAA is a multi region conference. They have schools in different regions. Chicago and Wash U St L. are in the Midwest. Rochester and NYU in the East. Emory is in the South. Carnegie Mellon and Case Western are in the Great Lakes and Brandeis is in the Northeast Region. These schools are like minded. They are the only conference that doesn't have a year end conference tourney. Team with best conference record goes to NCAA tourney. The schools and the conference chose to be part of the same conference because of their 'like mindedness'. Landmark conference did the same thing. If you notice Landmark conference has schools in different regions as well.

[hplc2222]

Thank you for the clarification,..... I am just begining to learn these aspects

[hplc2222]

when you say like mindedness, do you mean academicaly? NYU is known to be a performing arts school as their main intake of students. All the schools in the UAA are performing arts universities or colleges?

[Roundball999]

when you say like mindedness, do you mean academicaly? NYU is known to be a performing arts school as their main intake of students. All the schools in the UAA are performing arts universities or colleges?

NYU is much more diverse than you think with large proportions of students in Arts and Sciences, Business, Liberal Studies, Nursing, Culture, and so forth.  The College of Arts is about 15% of enrollment.  But by "like-minded" I think the reference is more generically to academically rigorous, highly selective admissions, etc..

[hplc2222]

OH, OK,    i just am aware of them as a performing arts college, in front of and behind the atage, if you will,...

[Mr. Ypsi]

DePauw's winning streak is now at 47 (and they just beat probably the 2nd best NCAC team by 25, so they're a pretty good bet to get well into the 60s).  Anyone know what the D3 women's record is?

[ronk]

  Wash U won 81 between 1998-2001. Don't know if that's the record, though.

[mailsy]

Wikipedia said it was 88. 

[ronk]

From the Bears' archives, I counted the last 8 of 97-98, 30 in each of the next 2 years, and 13 in the beginning of 2000-1.

[gordonmann]

Wash U. has the Division III record (81).  UConn has the All-Division record (90).