Top 25 discussion

[Darryl Nester]

How They Fared (Complete)

Yesterday's Bluffton vs. Transylvania game was postponed because the Transy bus had an accident on the way to the game. According to this story, there were no serious injuries.

Top 25

Rank	Pts	Team	W-L	Results
#1	608	Tufts	6-0	def. (n) #9 Rochester, 63-51; def. (n) Bridgewater State, 64-44
#2	591	Christopher Newport	6-0	def. Salisbury, 67-52; def. Frostburg State, 88-32
#3	586	Amherst	6-0	def. Emmanuel, 49-38; won at Eastern Connecticut, 72-54; won at Farmingdale State, 74-34
#4	519	Wartburg	5-0	won at Dubuque, 86-58; won at UW-Platteville, 58-55
#5	478	UW-Oshkosh	7-0	won at St. Norbert, 79-49; won at Finlandia, 93-46
#6	472	Trine	7-0	def. Franklin, 58-32; won at Alma, 75-46
#7	400	Hope	5-0	def. Olivet, 81-56; won at Adrian, 84-49
#8	396	Whitman	6-1	won at Pacific Lutheran, 72-44; won at #19 Puget Sound, 80-69
#9	372	Rochester	6-1	won at Brockport, 57-33; def. Oswego State, 78-28; LOST to (n) #1 Tufts, 51-63; won at T#31 Williams, 70-61
#10	361	Thomas More	6-1	def. Wilmington, 88-57; def. Thiel, 114-51; won at Bethany, 89-46
#11	350	St. Thomas	4-1	won at T#47 UW-Stevens Point, 78-54; won at Hamline, 76-56
#12	319	Gustavus Adolphus	5-0	won at Martin Luther, 78-45; def. UW-River Falls, 71-50; def. St. Olaf, 88-47
#13	301	Washington U.	4-2	def. Oglethorpe, 90-79; LOST to Austin, 77-85
#14	283	UW-Whitewater	5-0	def. Concordia (Wis.), 86-67; def. Augustana, 82-65
#15	269	Ohio Northern	5-1	def. Case Western Reserve, 88-49; def. Capital, 64-38
#16	268	Scranton	5-1	def. Neumann, 76-44; won at Cabrini, 57-41; LOST at T#47 Juniata, 54-62
#17	259	Bowdoin	7-0	won at Southern Maine, 94-53; def. #26 Mass-Dartmouth, 91-53; def. Colby, 79-45
#18	233	DePauw	6-1	def. Hiram, 56-47; def. Allegheny, 75-41
#19	208	Puget Sound	4-2	def. Whitworth, 67-58; LOST to #8 Whitman, 69-80
#20	165	Trinity (Texas)	3-1	IDLE
#21	113	Messiah	6-0	won at Lycoming, 78-74; won at Lancaster Bible, 82-52
#22	108	Muhlenberg	7-0	won at Swarthmore, 77-36; def. Dickinson, 73-49; won at Johns Hopkins, 69-64 OT
#23	91	Marymount	5-1	def. Shenandoah, 74-38; def. Southern Virginia, 85-52; won at St. Mary's (Md.), 65-45
#24	64	Wheaton (Ill.)	4-1	LOST to T#35 Chicago, 77-82; def. Millikin, 63-46
#25	51	Marietta	6-0	def. Otterbein, 97-74; won at Baldwin Wallace, 63-62

Others receiving votes

Rank	Pts	Team	W-L	Results
#26	38	Mass-Dartmouth	4-2	won at Bridgewater State, 83-51; LOST at #17 Bowdoin, 53-91; won at Plymouth State, 87-69
#27	36	Bethel	3-3	LOST at Northwestern (Minn.), 48-55; LOST at T#44 St. Benedict, 56-60
#28	20	Illinois Wesleyan	4-2	def. T#31 Carthage, 77-68
#29	18	Montclair State	6-1	won at Stevens, 65-56; won at Ramapo, 69-52; def. Rutgers-Newark, 54-43
#30	15	George Fox	4-2	won at Linfield, 83-75; won at Willamette, 79-76
T#31	13	Carthage	4-2	def. T#47 UW-Stevens Point, 67-49; LOST at #28 Illinois Wesleyan, 68-77
T#31	13	Williams	5-2	LOST at Skidmore, 58-60; def. Bridgewater State, 58-42; LOST to #9 Rochester, 61-70
T#33	12	Ithaca	6-1	def. Cortland, 78-58; won at Vassar, 69-53; won at Bard, 82-33
T#33	12	Randolph-Macon	5-1	def. Washington and Lee, 76-69; def. Mid-Atlantic Christian University, 101-45
T#35	10	Chicago	4-2	won at #24 Wheaton (Ill.), 82-77
T#35	10	North Park	4-1	def. North Central (Ill.), 78-59
T#35	10	SUNY Geneseo	6-1	def. Alfred, 68-34; won at #41 SUNY Oneonta, 56-52; won at SUNY New Paltz, 58-56
T#38	8	Bluffton	3-1	12/02 vs. Transylvania postponed
T#38	8	Moravian	5-2	won at FDU-Florham, 68-60; def. Wilkes, 80-57; LOST at Elizabethtown, 68-74
#40	7	Claremont-Mudd-Scripps	4-2	LOST at La Sierra, 62-65; won at Caltech, 75-59
#41	5	SUNY Oneonta	5-2	LOST at Hartwick, 59-65; LOST to T#35 SUNY Geneseo, 52-56; def. Brockport, 52-41
T#42	4	Carnegie Mellon	5-1	LOST to Capital, 53-57
T#42	4	Wisconsin Lutheran	4-1	def. Elmhurst, 73-63; def. Dominican, 67-49
T#44	3	Connecticut College	5-1	def. Worcester State, 62-41; won at New Rochelle, 74-44
T#44	3	St. Benedict	6-1	LOST to UW-Eau Claire, 40-48; def. #27 Bethel, 60-56
T#44	3	Washington and Jefferson	6-0	def. St. Vincent, 70-56; won at Westminster (Pa.), 63-50
T#47	2	Albright	4-2	won at Rowan, 73-62; def. Stevenson, 75-53; def. Arcadia, 66-46
T#47	2	Juniata	7-0	def. Frostburg State, 86-67; won at Misericordia, 70-58; def. #16 Scranton, 62-54
T#47	2	Rose-Hulman	4-3	def. St. Mary-Woods, 98-54; def. Defiance, 67-55
T#47	2	UW-Stevens Point	3-3	LOST at T#31 Carthage, 49-67; LOST to #11 St. Thomas, 54-78

[Mr. Ypsi]

The Transy link you posted said the game was cancelled.  You said postponed.  Clarification?  (Being a conference game, I'd assume that 'postponed' is far more likely.)

BTW, this service for both men and women is probably the best thing going by any poster!  If you think you may be giving it up any time in the next decade, I hope you are training a successor!  My week is definitely incomplete without "How They Fared".

[Dave 'd-mac' McHugh]

It probably has been postponed, but here is a story on the cause: http://transysports.com/sports/wbkb/2017-18/releases/20171202kmrnkn

[Mr. Ypsi]

It probably has been postponed, but here is a story on the cause: http://transysports.com/sports/wbkb/2017-18/releases/20171202kmrnkn

Yeah, that is the link Darryl already posted (where it said 'cancelled').   Dave, get some sleep!

[Dave 'd-mac' McHugh]

Sorry... clearly I do need some sleep, though those who know me that isn't going to happen anyway... but my brain is fried. Wow.

I honestly never thought calling four games in one day would have that kind of affect... I stand corrected. LOL

[Darryl Nester]

The Transy link you posted said the game was cancelled.  You said postponed.  Clarification?  (Being a conference game, I'd assume that 'postponed' is far more likely.)

Transy's story has used the word "cancelled" from the start, which I took as a careless word choice made in the midst of having lots of other things to worry about. Based on what I have heard at Bluffton's end, I know there is discussion about rescheduling.

BTW, this service for both men and women is probably the best thing going by any poster!  If you think you may be giving it up any time in the next decade, I hope you are training a successor!  My week is definitely incomplete without "How They Fared".

Thanks, Mr. Ypsi -- I am happy to do what I can. Some day I will get around to getting the code in a form that I could hand off to someone else.

[Ralph Turner]

The Transy link you posted said the game was cancelled.  You said postponed.  Clarification?  (Being a conference game, I'd assume that 'postponed' is far more likely.)

BTW, this service for both men and women is probably the best thing going by any poster!  If you think you may be giving it up any time in the next decade, I hope you are training a successor!  My week is definitely incomplete without "How They Fared".

+1 to Darryl!

[Ralph Turner]

Sorry... clearly I do need some sleep, though those who know me that isn't going to happen anyway... but my brain is fried. Wow.

I honestly never thought calling four games in one day would have that kind of affect... I stand corrected. LOL

Someone needs to "photoshop" a T-shirt of the old classic...

This is Dave's brain...

This is Dave's brain on drugs after calling 4 games at the NCAA D3 Lacrosse Soccer Championship.


Congrats Dave on the honor.


My bad.  And, I owe an apology to Gregory Sager for forgetting that NPU was in the Women's finals!

[Dave 'd-mac' McHugh]

Well make sure it says "soccer" and not lacrosse... luckily, there aren't four games of lax ever scheduled at the championship level. LOL

BTW - I chatted with someone at Transy, it was "higher ups" who wrote the story on what was a very busy weekend. Sadly, those who would know better didn't have any control on it. I am hoping, at the very least, it is rewritten today... but again... it is up to "higher ups."

[deiscanton]

The voters made the right decision to keep Rochester at #9 this week.  Rochester scored 51 on Tufts last Friday.  Only 5 teams last season scored 50 or more on the Tufts defense. 

[Dave 'd-mac' McHugh]

Here is the Top 25 ballot: http://www.d3hoops.com/top25/women/2017-18/week2

The voters on the women's side didn't move Tufts, but on the men's side they didn't follow the same logic.

[Darryl Nester]

How They Fared (So Far):

BTW, the Transy/Bluffton game was rescheduled for January 2.

Top 25

Rank	Pts	Team	W-L	Results
#1	611	Tufts	7-0	won at WPI, 63-50; 12/09 vs. University of New England
#2	600	Christopher Newport	7-0	won at St. Mary's (Md.), 73-42; 12/10 vs. Wesley
#3	582	Amherst	6-0	12/09 vs. Bridgewater State
#4	519	Wartburg	6-0	def. Loras, 64-46; 12/09 at Beloit
#5	502	UW-Oshkosh	7-0	IDLE
#6	473	Trine	8-0	won at Kalamazoo, 85-29; 12/09 vs. Calvin
#7	433	Whitman	6-1	12/08 vs. Carroll (Mont.); 12/09 vs. Colorado College
#8	432	Hope	6-0	def. Great Lakes Christian, 97-42; 12/09 at Albion
#9	388	Rochester	6-1	12/07 vs. St. John Fisher; 12/09 vs. Nazareth
#10	372	Thomas More	7-1	won at Pikeville, 67-59; 12/09 vs. Chatham
#11	359	St. Thomas	5-1	def. Bethel, 72-65; 12/09 vs. St. Catherine
#12	344	Gustavus Adolphus	6-0	def. Augsburg, 78-56; 12/09 vs. Hamline
#13	331	UW-Whitewater	5-0	12/09 at Coe
#14	316	Bowdoin	8-0	def. Maine-Farmington, 109-24; 12/09 at Bates
#15	270	Ohio Northern	6-1	won at Wilmington, 65-44; 12/09 at Mount Union
#16	230	DePauw	7-1	won at Wittenberg, 61-47; 12/09 at Wooster
#17	200	Messiah	7-0	def. Arcadia, 87-56; 12/09 at Alvernia
#18	192	Trinity (Texas)	3-1	IDLE
#19	163	Muhlenberg	8-0	def. Haverford, 53-51; 12/09 at Ursinus
#20	123	Scranton	5-1	IDLE
#21	111	Puget Sound	4-3	LOST at Evergreen St., 61-73
#22	95	Washington U.	5-2	def. Greenville, 83-56; 12/10 at Millikin
#23	93	Marymount	6-1	won at Salisbury, 66-45; 12/09 vs. York (Pa.)
#24	80	Marietta	6-0	12/09 at John Carroll
#25	77	Juniata	7-0	12/09 at Wilkes

Others receiving votes

Rank	Pts	Team	W-L	Results
#26	30	Ithaca	6-1	12/09 at Stevens
#27	28	Illinois Wesleyan	6-2	won at Eureka, 94-67; def. #28 Wheaton (Ill.), 88-81; 12/09 at North Central (Ill.)
#28	27	Wheaton (Ill.)	4-2	LOST at #27 Illinois Wesleyan, 81-88; 12/09 at Elmhurst
#29	20	Montclair State	7-1	won at William Paterson, 65-56; 12/09 vs. Rowan
#30	18	Chicago	4-2	12/09 vs. North Park
T#31	15	George Fox	4-2	12/09 vs. UC Santa Cruz
T#31	15	SUNY Geneseo	6-1	12/08 vs. SUNY Potsdam; 12/09 vs. Plattsburgh State
T#33	13	Carthage	4-3	LOST at North Central (Ill.), 77-81 OT; 12/09 vs. Augustana
T#33	13	Randolph-Macon	6-1	won at Hollins, 78-22
T#33	13	UW-Eau Claire	7-0	12/09 at Loras
#36	8	Williams	6-2	def. Eastern Connecticut, 66-55; 12/09 at Wesleyan
T#37	6	Albright	4-3	LOST at Widener, 70-77; 12/09 at Moravian
T#37	6	Connecticut College	6-1	won at Trinity (Conn.), 74-63; 12/10 at Roger Williams
#39	5	Wisconsin Lutheran	5-1	def. Lakeland, 60-46; 12/09 at Alverno
T#40	4	Bluffton	4-1	won at Earlham, 84-56; 12/09 at Hanover
T#40	4	Washington and Jefferson	7-0	won at Carnegie Mellon, 51-48; 12/09 vs. Grove City
T#42	1	Babson	5-2	LOST at Brandeis, 56-69; won at Wellesley, 67-55
T#42	1	Oglethorpe	5-2	12/07 at Guilford
T#42	1	Rochester Tech	5-0	12/07 vs. Nazareth; 12/09 vs. St. John Fisher
T#42	1	Rose-Hulman	5-3	won at Mount St. Joseph, 52-50; 12/09 at Transylvania

[lefty2]

How They Fared (So Far):

BTW, the Transy/Bluffton game was rescheduled for January 2.

I thought that game was cancelled?

[deiscanton]

How They Fared (So Far):

BTW, the Transy/Bluffton game was rescheduled for January 2.

I thought that game was cancelled?

This is a conference game, so it has to be made up.  Transy wrote in "cancelled" by mistake, but in reality, it was postponed.

[Dave 'd-mac' McHugh]

How They Fared (So Far):

BTW, the Transy/Bluffton game was rescheduled for January 2.

I thought that game was cancelled?

This is a conference game, so it has to be made up.  Transy wrote in "cancelled" by mistake, but in reality, it was postponed.

It appears someone "won" the battle and got the article rewritten: http://www.transysports.com/sports/wbkb/2017-18/releases/20171202kmrnkn (trust me on that story!)