Top 25 discussion

[Darryl Nester]

How They Fared (So Far)

There are still a few games to come before the first in-season vote on Monday - after which this list should be short enough to fit in a single post! (The formatting codes required to make losses red and wins blue pushed this past the 16000-character limit.)

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[Darryl Nester]

How They Fared (So Far) -- Others receiving votes

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[Darryl Nester]

Because my schedule is a little crazy today, I'll post what I have now, and edit in the pending results later.

How They Fared (almost Complete)

Top 25

Rank	Pts	Team	W-L	Results
#1	617	Hope	5-0	def. Edgewood, 104-59; def. Mount Union, 94-41; def. Finlandia, 94-56; def. #21 Baldwin Wallace, 83-55; def. Grace Bible, 104-27
#2	555	East Texas Baptist	4-1	def. (n) #29 Trinity (Texas), 76-70 OT; LOST to (n) #32 Rhodes, 82-88; won at T#50 Emory, 66-46; def. (n) Ferrum, 75-42; def. T#50 Austin, 69-45
#3	522	Trine	5-1	def. Kenyon, 93-33; def. Denison, 88-42; won at Benedictine, 63-50; won at UW-Stout, 66-49; LOST at T#38 UW-Eau Claire, 66-72; won at Ohio Northern, 75-54
#4	431	Whitman	5-0	won at Eastern Ore., 78-65; def. (n) Montana Western, 87-68; def. (n) Southern Ore., 74-69; won at T#50 Austin, 89-51; won at #15 Texas-Dallas, 71-60
#5	429	Messiah	5-1	def. (n) #33 Salisbury, 53-44; won at Gwynedd Mercy, 98-68; LOST at Gettysburg, 55-65; def. St. Vincent, 66-42; def. #9 DeSales, 69-67; def. Albright, 58-42
#6	420	Simpson	4-1	def. T#38 Gustavus Adolphus, 85-61; won at Northwestern (Minn.), 79-50; won at #43 Loras, 85-79; LOST to (n) T#38 UW-Eau Claire, 70-72; won at UW-La Crosse, 70-56
#7	335	Tufts	4-1	def. (n) Rowan, 73-53; def. (n) Vassar, 69-59; won at University of New England, 60-42; def. Brandeis, 81-77; LOST to T#45 Transylvania, 65-66
#8	320	John Carroll	4-0	def. Case Western Reserve, 77-65; def. Carnegie Mellon, 79-62; def. Albion, 75-66; def. Denison, 93-47
#9	318	DeSales	2-3	LOST at #12 Scranton, 68-74; LOST at Muhlenberg, 61-65; def. (n) Gwynedd Mercy, 100-63; LOST at #5 Messiah, 67-69; won at Moravian, 75-37
#10	315	Wartburg	4-0	def. Fontbonne, 84-37; won at UW-Stout, 91-71; def. UW-Platteville, 78-55; won at Dubuque, 69-58
#11	311	Wheaton (Ill.)	7-0	won at Benedictine, 60-53; def. Maryville (Tenn.), 58-49; def. Otterbein, 62-34; won at Lakeland, 61-50; def. (n) Chapman, 65-50; won at Redlands, 69-57; def. Dominican, 84-52
#12	286	Scranton	4-1	won at Marywood, 98-32; def. #9 DeSales, 74-68; LOST at #42 Ithaca, 53-75; def. King's, 80-56; def. Wilkes, 81-42
#13	280	Bowdoin	7-0	def. (n) Nazareth, 65-44; won at University of New England, 61-52; def. Southern Maine, 74-60; def. Worcester State, 67-45; def. #23 Smith, 69-52; won at University of New England, 62-51; def. MIT, 54-50
#14	258	Hardin-Simmons	6-0	won at Texas Lutheran, 93-81; won at Schreiner, 72-61; def. #29 Trinity (Texas), 65-63; won at McMurry, 71-52; def. (n) Nebraska Wesleyan, 69-49; won at Colorado College, 74-73
#15	254	Texas-Dallas	2-1	won at T#50 Austin, 74-44; def. Belhaven, 75-61; LOST to #4 Whitman, 60-71
#16	249	Amherst	5-0	def. (n) #37 Oglethorpe, 53-36; def. (n) Coast Guard, 70-42; def. T#40 Rhode Island College, 64-42; def. Gordon, 63-39; won at Bates, 60-54
#17	247	UW-Oshkosh	6-1	won at Finlandia, 60-53; def. Lakeland, 79-40; LOST to (n) Bethany Lutheran, 61-65; def. (n) Minnesota-Morris, 82-31; won at Edgewood, 78-46; def. Alma, 72-42; def. St. Norbert, 71-40
#18	212	UW-Whitewater	6-0	def. Calvin, 70-60; def. (n) Concordia (Wis.), 71-46; def. (n) Benedictine, 80-38; won at Augustana, 65-53; won at #44 Illinois Wesleyan, 75-43; 11/23 at Carroll postponed; won at #43 Loras, 83-54
#19	210	DePauw	6-0	def. (n) Alma, 72-66; def. (n) Calvin, 58-55; def. #22 Millikin, 71-55; def. Kenyon, 81-45; def. (n) Washington U., 66-64; def. (n) Rose-Hulman, 64-54
#20	169	Christopher Newport	7-0	def. Southern Virginia, 88-51; def. Bridgewater (Va.), 109-59; def. (n) Gettysburg, 70-67; won at Goucher, 113-42; def. (n) Lebanon Valley, 94-31; won at Randolph-Macon, 95-60; def. Franklin and Marshall, 77-61
#21	162	Baldwin Wallace	3-1	won at Case Western Reserve, 72-59; def. (n) Olivet, 95-29; LOST at #1 Hope, 55-83; def. La Roche, 76-49
#22	157	Millikin	4-3	def. Westminster (Mo.), 83-63; def. Greenville, 100-57; def. Beloit, 77-49; LOST at #19 DePauw, 55-71; LOST at #34 Chicago, 68-71; LOST to (n) #35 Wisconsin Lutheran, 56-66; won at Illinois College, 74-65
#23	121	Smith	5-1	won at Castleton, 78-57; def. Vassar, 80-55; def. Rowan, 70-55; def. (n) Mitchell, 69-50; LOST at #13 Bowdoin, 52-69; def. Trinity (Conn.), 65-58
#24	108	George Fox	2-3	LOST at Mount St. Mary, 59-61; won at Trinity (Conn.), 68-56; won at Emerson, 62-52; LOST at Whittier, 39-55; LOST at Pomona-Pitzer, 69-75
#25	92	Millsaps	5-3	LOST to Belhaven, 54-56; LOST to (n) T#50 Emory, 40-50; LOST to (n) LaGrange, 68-73; def. Centenary (La.), 50-36; def. St. Thomas (Texas), 43-40; def. MUW, 64-60; def. Agnes Scott, 75-29; def. University of Dallas, 55-48

[Darryl Nester]

Others receiving votes

Rank	Pts	Team	W-L	Results
#26	83	Piedmont	4-2	def. Berry, 70-61; def. #37 Oglethorpe, 84-77; def. Averett, 85-65; def. #31 N.C. Wesleyan, 66-57; LOST to (n) Alma, 69-84; LOST at T#45 Transylvania, 46-76
#27	79	Bethel	1-4	def. UW-River Falls, 92-47; LOST to (n) UW-Platteville, 57-61; LOST to (n) UW-Stout, 79-96; LOST to T#38 Gustavus Adolphus, 42-53; LOST to Augsburg, 61-65
#28	64	St. John Fisher	6-0	won at Hilbert, 86-25; won at Hamilton, 76-69; def. Rochester Tech, 65-57; def. Rochester, 56-53; def. Widener, 76-56; won at Penn State-Harrisburg, 74-57
#29	63	Trinity (Texas)	4-2	LOST to (n) #2 East Texas Baptist, 70-76 OT; won at T#40 Mary Hardin-Baylor, 74-61; LOST at #14 Hardin-Simmons, 63-65; won at McMurry, 102-50; def. (n) Linfield, 92-68; won at Pacific, 72-69
#30	56	Babson	5-1	def. Eastern Connecticut, 67-60; def. (n) Keene State, 63-50; def. (n) Clarkson, 75-47; def. T#40 Rhode Island College, 77-62; LOST at Roger Williams, 60-66; def. Brandeis, 81-65
#31	55	N.C. Wesleyan	3-4	won at Mid-Atlantic Christian, 81-36; def. (n) Huntingdon, 71-64; LOST at #26 Piedmont, 57-66; LOST to T#45 Lynchburg, 61-63; LOST at Virginia Wesleyan, 62-65; LOST to (n) Mary Washington, 72-78; won at Salem, 89-70
#32	35	Rhodes	7-1	LOST at T#40 Mary Hardin-Baylor, 72-73; def. (n) #2 East Texas Baptist, 88-82; def. MUW, 84-51; def. T#50 Austin, 83-64; def. University of the Ozarks, 74-64; def. Washington U., 83-80; def. (n) University of Dallas, 75-56; def. (n) Agnes Scott, 100-30
#33	34	Salisbury	5-2	won at Virginia Wesleyan, 80-54; LOST to (n) #5 Messiah, 44-53; def. (n) Penn St.-Lehigh Val., 73-52; LOST to Catholic, 51-66; def. Goucher, 96-40; def. Stevenson, 84-55; def. Rowan, 79-74
#34	31	Chicago	4-2	won at Carthage, 76-52; def. Augsburg, 60-55; def. #22 Millikin, 71-68; LOST to #35 Wisconsin Lutheran, 52-58; def. UW-Platteville, 71-60; LOST at Calvin, 51-65
#35	29	Wisconsin Lutheran	4-0	def. Martin Luther, 57-38; def. Washington U., 69-66; def. (n) #22 Millikin, 66-56; won at #34 Chicago, 58-52
#36	28	New York University	6-0	won at Kean, 89-58; def. Alvernia, 82-58; def. Thiel, 86-36; def. Claremont-Mudd-Scripps, 68-54; def. Vassar, 84-64; def. Cabrini, 79-43
#37	19	Oglethorpe	2-6	LOST to (n) LaGrange, 72-80; LOST at #26 Piedmont, 77-84; LOST to (n) #16 Amherst, 36-53; LOST at Gordon, 56-64; def. (n) Maryville (Tenn.), 79-69; def. (n) Franklin, 69-56; LOST to Asbury, 58-94; LOST to LeTourneau, 60-86
T#38	18	Gustavus Adolphus	3-1	LOST at #6 Simpson, 61-85; def. Luther, 74-57; won at #27 Bethel, 53-42; def. St. Olaf, 81-70
T#38	18	UW-Eau Claire	6-0	def. UW-Superior, 76-53; def. Ripon, 74-46; def. #3 Trine, 72-66; won at St. Norbert, 65-58; def. (n) #6 Simpson, 72-70; def. (n) Edgewood, 80-43
T#40	17	Mary Hardin-Baylor	2-2	def. #32 Rhodes, 73-72; LOST to #29 Trinity (Texas), 61-74; LOST at Colorado College, 58-67; def. (n) Nebraska Wesleyan, 66-55
T#40	17	Rhode Island College	4-3	LOST to MIT, 47-61; won at Endicott, 74-54; LOST at #16 Amherst, 42-64; LOST at #30 Babson, 62-77; def. Bard, 81-16; def. Bridgewater State, 65-46; won at Wesleyan, 66-62
#42	16	Ithaca	3-1	won at Hartwick, 50-48; def. #12 Scranton, 75-53; LOST at Cortland, 64-68; won at Keuka, 84-42
#43	15	Loras	3-2	def. Elmhurst, 91-62; def. UW-Stout, 79-72; def. UW-Platteville, 89-43; LOST to #6 Simpson, 79-85; LOST to #18 UW-Whitewater, 54-83
#44	11	Illinois Wesleyan	1-4	LOST at Wittenberg, 59-68; won at Capital, 75-67; LOST to #18 UW-Whitewater, 43-75; LOST to Rose-Hulman, 64-69 OT; LOST to Washington U., 72-83
T#45	10	Lynchburg	3-1	def. Averett, 77-48; LOST at Mary Washington, 57-66; def. William Peace, 76-59; won at #31 N.C. Wesleyan, 63-61
T#45	10	St. Lawrence	5-0	won at SUNY Potsdam, 68-60; def. SUNYIT, 74-48; def. Plattsburgh State, 83-41; won at #54 Williams, 65-64; def. (n) Hamilton, 72-68 OT
T#45	10	Transylvania	5-0	won at Spalding, 80-47; won at Eastern Nazarene, 103-46; won at #7 Tufts, 66-65; def. Berea, 67-47; def. #26 Piedmont, 76-46
#48	8	Central	1-3	LOST at Grinnell, 66-80; LOST to (n) Augustana, 54-70; LOST to (n) Westminster (Mo.), 57-70; won at Fontbonne, 60-54
#49	5	SUNY New Paltz	4-1	def. Mount St. Mary, 76-60; LOST at Rochester, 66-83; def. (n) TCNJ, 62-54; won at Misericordia, 72-63; won at Union, 66-56
T#50	4	Austin	1-4	LOST to #15 Texas-Dallas, 44-74; LOST at #32 Rhodes, 64-83; def. McMurry, 60-56; LOST to #4 Whitman, 51-89; LOST at #2 East Texas Baptist, 45-69
T#50	4	Emory	3-3	LOST at LaGrange, 57-66; def. (n) #25 Millsaps, 50-40; won at Birmingham-Southern, 84-51; LOST to #2 East Texas Baptist, 46-66; def. Ferrum, 90-52; LOST to LeTourneau, 54-65
T#50	4	Marymount	4-3	def. Kean, 67-47; won at Stevenson, 59-47; LOST to (n) #53 Johns Hopkins, 43-79; def. Eastern, 81-69; LOST to Catholic, 53-65; LOST at Shenandoah, 56-62; def. Rochester, 67-50
#53	3	Johns Hopkins	4-2	LOST at Susquehanna, 41-65; won at York (Pa.), 42-31; won at Stevenson, 83-54; def. (n) T#50 Marymount, 79-43; won at Muhlenberg, 62-52; LOST to Gettysburg, 58-67
#54	1	Williams	2-4	LOST to Skidmore, 42-46; def. Massachusetts College, 89-42; won at Vassar, 63-60; LOST to T#45 St. Lawrence, 64-65; LOST to Framingham State, 66-67 OT; LOST to Springfield, 59-64

[Baldini]

If Transylvania isn't in the next top 20, Lucy will have some splainin to do.

[Dave 'd-mac' McHugh]

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[gordonmann]

If Transylvania isn't in the next top 20, Lucy will have some splainin to do.

"Calm down, Rickey."

The Pioneers enter the Top 25 at No. 18. Here are some milestones and such from this week's Top 25 poll.

Might as well jump: Most teams have played at least four games, so our voters had enough data to blow up their preseason ballot and start over if they were inclined.

That's more or less what I did, putting UW-Eau Claire in my Top 5. Other voters may have been reluctant to elevate a team from off their ballot to highly ranked based on a small amount of data, and that's a reasonable approach. Some times teams get hot for a short stretch. I don't think that'll be the case with the Blugolds but we'll find out very soon. They play Oshkosh, Stevens Point, Bethany Lutheran and Loras in their next four.

Transylvania's jump wasn't quite as large but beating Tufts in Massachusetts is worth a lot. I was also impressed by how they handled Piedmont.

Can you take me high enough: John Carroll reaches its highest ranking ever at No. 4. The Blue Streaks' previous high was No. 8, and that was with an asterisk. They were ranked 8th last season when a smaller range of teams played.

The long run: Amherst has the longest streak of Top 25 appearances, active and ever, with 189. We won't hold not playing last season against the Mammoths. Tufts is next at 121 and then Hope at 118. If those teams stay ranked all season, they will both pass Washington U. for the second longest streak in our poll (133 straight). DePauw is ranked and that continues the Tigers' run of appearing in Top 25 poll at least once every season. The only other program to do that so far is Washington U.

Thunder struck: This week is the 100th appearance in our Top 25 poll for Wheaton (Ill.). It's also almost the high-mark for Wheaton, which surprised me. They've been good for a long time but never higher than No. 5.

Hard to handle: This was one of the more difficult early-season votes we've had in a while. Most ranked teams have played at least one other opponent receiving votes and some really good programs are off to bumpy starts. Compare the list of teams that received votes in the preseason to the list of teams that received votes this week.

You also end up with clusters of results like this one in the South.

ETBU beats Trinity by six
Trinity beats UMHB by 13
UMHB beats Rhodes 1
Rhodes beats ETBU by 6

Now add in Hardin-Simmons which beat Trinity in the final minute at home and you've got at least four teams with a good claim on being ranked and a fifth (Mary Hardin-Baylor) who has a case. The Cru lost to Colorado College, but the Tigers will contend in the SCAC. Do you take four teams? Three? Which ones?

This week's results could help or make things even harder. ETBU just lost to Texas-Dallas and plays Hardin-Simmons on Saturday.

There's a similar cluster of results in what we used to call the Mid Atlantic.

Scranton beats DeSales by 6
Ithaca beats Scranton by 22
Messiah beats DeSales by 2
Gettysburg beats Messiah by 10
Christopher Newport beats Gettysburg by 3
Messiah beats Salisbury by 9
Catholic beats Salisbury by 15

So how do you order those teams? What do you do with Ithaca who hammered Scranton and then lost to arch rival (but unranked) Cortland? Do you discount Messiah's win over DeSales because the Bulldogs were missing a starter due to injury? Do you give Scranton more credit for that win since DeSales was full-strength for the opener?

There are enough results right now that you have to resolve these questions, but not a whole of context to help you do so. That's what makes this fun!

I ended up taking bunches of teams in these clusters -- I have CNU, Gettysburg, Catholic, Ithaca and Scranton on my ballot. Then I bumped teams off my ballot who haven't played anyone good enough for me to evaluate them yet. NYU entered the poll, but dropped off my ballot, just because I ran out of room. The Violets will get plenty of tests once they enter UAA play, though the preseason poll was the first one ever that the UAA did not have at least one team ranked.

[Darryl Nester]

How They Fared (So Far)

Results since Monday's poll, and what's coming before the next poll. Only 4 losses so far, and just two pending games between ranked teams.

(complete report below)

[Darryl Nester]

How They Fared (Complete)

(One result is not yet final, but is lopsided at halftime. Will finalize later.)

Top 25

Rank	Pts	Team	W-L	Results
#1	625	Hope	7-0	def. Calvin, 91-42; def. Aquinas, 78-51
#2	592	Whitman	6-0	won at Willamette, 62-43
#3	478	John Carroll	5-0	won at Muskingum, 76-68
#4	462	Bowdoin	8-1	LOST to Bates, 70-74; def. Colby, 65-44
#5	455	Wartburg	6-0	def. Luther, 91-83; def. Westminster (Mo.), 75-63
#6	441	Wheaton (Ill.)	8-1	LOST at Carthage, 39-50; won at Elmhurst, 75-57
#7	406	Trine	7-1	def. Adrian, 80-52; won at Calvin, 79-49
#8	393	Amherst	7-0	won at Emmanuel, 56-48; won at Wesleyan, 78-61
#9	381	East Texas Baptist	6-2	LOST at #22 Texas-Dallas, 49-53; def. McMurry, 77-33; def. #10 Hardin-Simmons, 58-54
#10	369	Hardin-Simmons	7-1	won at Belhaven, 77-52; LOST at #9 East Texas Baptist, 54-58
#11	366	UW-Eau Claire	8-0	def. #20 UW-Oshkosh, 70-57; def. UW-Stevens Point, 64-38
#12	361	UW-Whitewater	8-0	won at UW-Stevens Point, 79-53; won at UW-Stout, 58-53
#13	354	Christopher Newport	9-0	def. William Peace, 118-43; def. Meredith, 104-48
#14	319	Simpson	6-1	won at UW-Superior, 77-50; won at Coe, 91-71
#15	315	DePauw	7-0	won at Wooster, 87-47
#16	285	Tufts	5-1	won at Mass-Dartmouth, 76-59
#17	272	Messiah	6-1	won at Eastern, 60-53
#18	238	Transylvania	7-0	won at Franklin, 72-62; def. Rose-Hulman, 64-57
#19	169	Scranton	6-1	won at Misericordia, 70-48; won at #25 Catholic, 56-53
#20	130	UW-Oshkosh	7-2	LOST at #11 UW-Eau Claire, 57-70; def. UW-La Crosse, 55-49
#21	115	Baldwin Wallace	5-1	won at Heidelberg, 73-49; won at Wilmington, 87-59
#22	103	Texas-Dallas	5-1	def. #9 East Texas Baptist, 53-49; def. Howard Payne, 83-59; def. Sul Ross State, 70-60
#23	83	Rhodes	8-2	LOST at Emory, 76-80; won at MUW, 77-53
#24	80	New York University	7-0	def. Wesleyan, 91-46
#25	73	Catholic	7-1	def. Gallaudet, 87-51; LOST to #19 Scranton, 53-56

Others receiving votes

Rank	Pts	Team	W-L	Results
#26	57	Smith	6-1	won at Eastern Connecticut, 62-57
#27	52	Gettysburg	6-1	def. McDaniel, 57-52; won at Dickinson, 60-50; def. Washington College, 62-53
#28	41	St. John Fisher	6-0	IDLE
#29	23	Wisconsin Lutheran	6-0	won at Concordia (Wis.), 61-52; won at Edgewood, 85-60
#30	21	Ithaca	5-2	def. SUNY Geneseo, 63-43; LOST at Vassar, 64-71; won at Bard, 68-35
#31	15	Springfield	8-0	won at Westfield State, 93-59
#32	14	St. Lawrence	7-0	won at Union, 62-58; won at Skidmore, 73-62
#33	10	St. Benedict	6-0	def. St. Mary's (Minn.), 59-56; def. Concordia-Moorhead, 71-61
#34	8	Trinity (Texas)	4-2	IDLE
#35	7	DeSales	4-3	won at Wilkes, 90-42; def. Arcadia, 74-30
#36	3	Salisbury	7-2	won at Marymount, 66-47; won at Muhlenberg, 65-59
T#37	2	Babson	6-2	def. (n) Middlebury, 79-62; LOST at Williams, 56-63
T#37	2	George Fox	2-5	LOST to Pacific, 68-69; LOST at Puget Sound, 72-80
T#37	2	Gustavus Adolphus	5-1	def. Carleton, 76-50; def. Macalester, 71-63
T#37	2	Roanoke	6-0	def. Mary Baldwin, 74-37; def. Hollins, 78-55; won at Eastern Mennonite, 70-56
#41	1	SUNY New Paltz	6-2	def. SUNY Oneonta, 68-53; LOST at SUNY Potsdam, 66-69; won at Plattsburgh State, 77-38

[Dave 'd-mac' McHugh]

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[gordonmann]

The new Top 25 is released here.

Might as well jump: The biggest jump again belongs to UW-Eau Claire which eased any concerns about staying power by beating UW-Oshkosh by 13. DePauw and Transylvania also jumped five spots.

Ride Captain ride: This week is the 100th appearance in our Top 25 poll for Christopher Newport, masters of the chaos defense and the often-lopsided victory. CNU's highest appearance was No. 2 back during the first semester of the 2017-18 season.

Reeling in the years: St. John Fisher makes its first appearance in the Top 25 since January 17, 2005. Back then, George W. Bush was the President, folks were watching Fear Factor and Desperate Housewives and this was your No. 1 movie.

[Darryl Nester]

How They Fared (So Far)

Top 25

Rank	Pts	Team	W-L	Results
#1	625	Hope	7-0	12/09 vs. Benedictine; 12/11 vs. Kalamazoo
#2	577	Whitman	7-0	won at Whitworth, 76-59; 12/12 vs. Colorado College
#3	526	UW-Eau Claire	8-1	LOST to Bethany Lutheran, 61-63; 12/11 vs. Loras
#4	501	John Carroll	6-0	won at Mount Union, 69-56; 12/11 vs. Capital
#5	499	Wartburg	7-0	def. Northwestern (Minn.), 79-46; 12/11 at #12 Simpson
#6	477	Amherst	7-0	IDLE
#7	467	Trine	7-1	12/11 vs. Olivet
#8	426	UW-Whitewater	8-0	IDLE
#9	420	Christopher Newport	9-0	12/12 vs. Marymount
#10	364	DePauw	8-0	def. Wittenberg, 83-57; 12/11 vs. Oberlin
#11	341	Bowdoin	9-1	won at Maine-Farmington, 69-43
#12	332	Simpson	6-1	12/11 vs. #5 Wartburg
#13	307	Transylvania	7-0	12/11 at Bluffton
#14	266	Hardin-Simmons	7-1	12/09 vs. Concordia (Texas); 12/11 vs. Mary Hardin-Baylor
#15	259	Tufts	6-1	def. WPI, 73-47; 12/11 vs. MIT
#16	241	Wheaton (Ill.)	9-1	def. Carroll, 62-50; 12/11 vs. Illinois Wesleyan
#17	236	East Texas Baptist	6-2	12/11 at LeTourneau
#18	222	Messiah	6-2	LOST to York (Pa.), 55-61; 12/11 at Lebanon Valley
#19	182	Scranton	6-1	12/11 at Stevens
#20	173	Baldwin Wallace	5-1	12/12 vs. Marietta
#21	168	New York University	7-0	12/10 vs. Hunter; 12/12 vs. Brooklyn
#22	167	Texas-Dallas	5-1	IDLE
#23	76	Gettysburg	6-1	12/11 at Haverford
#24	64	UW-Oshkosh	7-2	IDLE
#25	37	St. John Fisher	6-0	12/10 vs. Clarkson; 12/11 at Buffalo State

Others receiving votes

Rank	Pts	Team	W-L	Results
#26	34	Smith	7-1	def. Williams, 65-60; 12/10 at New England College
T#27	29	Springfield	9-0	def. Worcester State, 79-60; 12/11 at Connecticut College
T#27	29	Wisconsin Lutheran	7-0	def. Benedictine, 63-60; 12/11 vs. Dominican
#29	24	Bates	6-1	IDLE
#30	16	St. Benedict	6-1	LOST to Hamline, 44-68; 12/11 at Macalester
#31	13	Catholic	7-1	IDLE
T#32	6	Gustavus Adolphus	5-2	LOST at Augsburg, 46-55; 12/11 at St. Catherine
T#32	6	Rhodes	8-2	IDLE
T#32	6	Trinity (Texas)	4-2	IDLE
#35	3	St. Lawrence	8-0	def. Clarkson, 62-38
T#36	2	DeSales	5-3	won at Stevens, 71-58; 12/11 vs. Misericordia
T#36	2	Roanoke	7-0	def. Shenandoah, 80-69; 12/11 at Lynchburg
T#36	2	Roger Williams	7-0	def. Suffolk, 66-49; 12/09 vs. Wheaton (Mass.)

[Dave 'd-mac' McHugh]

For two programs this week, the number 25 is probably considered lucky. For many, it represents the bottom of a Top 25 ranking, but for those in the 25th slot ... it means they are ranked.

St. John Fisher hasn't been ranked since "Desperate Housewives," "Boston Legal," "The Shield," and "Fear Factor" where some of the most popular shows on television. The top movie was "Coach Carter." However, Coach Melissa Kuberka has gotten her Cardinals squad back into the rankings after a terrific start to the 2021-22 season. We talk to her about the team's success and how the rest of the season could shape up.

For DeSales, there were signs they were going to be good during the COVID season. Not all teams are able to duplicate that short-season success, but the Bulldogs are off to an undefeated start. Coach Scott Coval discusses just how good the team is and why we haven't seen the unit at it's very best. Plus, one can still break a backboard in today's game? DeSales found out it is possible.

Plus, Yeshiva is getting plenty of attention now that they have been ranked #1 in the D3hoops.com Top 25 poll the last few weeks. But do you really know the Macabees and their program? We talk to Gary Belsky who wrote an expose on the program for ESPN. It's a must read and a must listen to segment.

And UW-Eau Claire Athletics have big plans for future Blugolds and DIII championships. Introducing the $70 million Sonnetag Center. AD Dan Schumacher discusses the significant way UWEC could shift championships and even regional recruiting by 2024.

You can watch the show LIVE (or on demand) here: https://www.d3hoops.com/hoopsville/archives/2021-22/dec9

Guests List:
- #25 St. John Fisher women's coach Melissa Kuberka
- #25 DeSales men's coach Scott Coval
- ESPN Writer Gary Belsky
- UW-Eau Claire Director of Athletics Dan Schumacher

Hoopsville broadcasts from the NABC Studio. All guests are featured on the BlueFrame Technology Hoopsville Hotline.

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[Darryl Nester]

How They Fared (Complete)

Top 25

Rank	Pts	Team	W-L	Results
#1	625	Hope	9-0	def. Benedictine, 99-50; def. Kalamazoo, 112-31
#2	577	Whitman	9-0	won at Whitworth, 76-59; def. Walla Walla, 73-49; def. Colorado College, 80-70
#3	526	UW-Eau Claire	9-1	LOST to Bethany Lutheran, 61-63; def. Loras, 66-49
#4	501	John Carroll	7-0	won at Mount Union, 69-56; def. Capital, 73-55
#5	499	Wartburg	7-1	def. Northwestern (Minn.), 79-46; LOST at #12 Simpson, 74-90
#6	477	Amherst	7-0	IDLE
#7	467	Trine	8-1	def. Olivet, 78-20
#8	426	UW-Whitewater	8-0	IDLE
#9	420	Christopher Newport	10-0	def. Marymount, 93-39
#10	364	DePauw	9-0	def. Wittenberg, 83-57; def. Oberlin, 55-50
#11	341	Bowdoin	9-1	won at Maine-Farmington, 69-43
#12	332	Simpson	7-1	def. #5 Wartburg, 90-74
#13	307	Transylvania	8-0	won at Bluffton, 64-50
#14	266	Hardin-Simmons	8-2	def. Concordia (Texas), 80-48; LOST to Mary Hardin-Baylor, 52-64
#15	259	Tufts	7-1	def. WPI, 73-47; def. MIT, 81-65
#16	241	Wheaton (Ill.)	9-2	def. Carroll, 62-50; LOST to Illinois Wesleyan, 62-81
#17	236	East Texas Baptist	7-2	won at LeTourneau, 75-63
#18	222	Messiah	7-2	LOST to York (Pa.), 55-61; won at Lebanon Valley, 60-32
#19	182	Scranton	6-2	LOST at Stevens, 53-63
#20	173	Baldwin Wallace	6-1	def. Marietta, 66-41
#21	168	New York University	9-0	won at Hunter, 89-48; def. Brooklyn, 97-53
#22	167	Texas-Dallas	5-1	IDLE
#23	76	Gettysburg	7-1	won at Haverford, 50-26
#24	64	UW-Oshkosh	7-2	IDLE
#25	37	St. John Fisher	8-0	def. Clarkson, 66-63; won at Buffalo State, 65-56

Others receiving votes

Rank	Pts	Team	W-L	Results
#26	34	Smith	8-1	def. Williams, 65-60; won at New England College, 68-48
T#27	29	Springfield	10-0	def. Worcester State, 79-60; won at Connecticut College, 49-37
T#27	29	Wisconsin Lutheran	8-0	def. Benedictine, 63-60; def. Dominican, 82-36
#29	24	Bates	6-1	IDLE
#30	16	St. Benedict	6-2	LOST to Hamline, 44-68; LOST at Macalester, 57-62
#31	13	Catholic	7-1	IDLE
T#32	6	Gustavus Adophus	6-2	LOST at Augsburg, 46-55; won at St. Catherine, 65-55
T#32	6	Rhodes	8-2	IDLE
T#32	6	Trinity (Texas)	4-2	IDLE
#35	3	St. Lawrence	8-0	def. Clarkson, 62-38
T#36	2	DeSales	6-3	won at Stevens, 71-58; def. Misericordia, 58-34
T#36	2	Roanoke	8-0	def. Shenandoah, 80-69; won at Lynchburg, 69-58
T#36	2	Roger Williams	8-0	def. Suffolk, 66-49; def. Wheaton (Mass.), 80-50

[Dave 'd-mac' McHugh]

For some programs, the start to the 2021-22 season has been better than expected. For others, it has been recording breaking.

On Sunday's edition of Hoopsville, we chat with coaches of programs whose teams are off to strong starts. Some of those starts might have been expected, but not all of them.

We chat with Heidelberg and RPI men's basketball program plus York (Pa.) and No. 7 Trine women's programs.

You can watch the show LIVE (or on demand) here: https://www.d3hoops.com/hoopsville/archives/2021-22/dec9

We are also simulcasting on our Facebook Live page (www.facebook.com/Hoopsville)

Guests List (order subject to change):
- Heidelberg men's coach Andy Bucheit
- York (Pa.) women's coach Betsy Witman
- #7 Trine women's coach Andy Rang
- RPI men's coach Mark Gilbride

Hoopsville is hosted by Dave McHugh from the NABC Studios. It is presented by D3hoops.com and thanks to our partners at the WBCA and BlueFrame Technology.

If you have questions, ideas, or want to interact with the show, feel free to send them to hoopsville@d3sports.com or use any of the social media options available.

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