Top 25 discussion

[David Collinge]

2003 Preseason vs. 2004 Final Regular Season (i.e. Week 15):
*Six of the preseason top 10 were in the Week 15 top 10:
>> Trinity (Tex.) (#2 preseason, #8 Week 15)
>> Wash. U. (#3 to #7)
>> Rochester (#4 to #4)
>> Bowdoin (#6 to #1)
>> UW-Stevens Point (#7 to #2)
>> Scranton (#8 to #5)
*The other four preseason top 10 teams finished as follows:
>> #5 UW-Eau Claire finished #22
>> #9 Wilmington finished #14
>> #1 Eastern Conn. and #10 Gustavus Adolphus finished unranked.
*The remainder of the Week 15 top 10 started out as follows:
>> #3 Southern Maine was #13
>> #9 Marymount was #14
>> #10 Hardin-Simmons was #16
>> #6 NYU was unranked.

Excluding Eastern Connecticut, that was a pretty good preseason poll.

2002 Preseason vs. 2003 Final Regular Season (i.e. Week 13):
*Five of the preseason top 10 were in the Week 13 top 10:
>> Wash. U. (#1 preseason, #3 Week 13)
>> Bowdoin (#2 to #7)
>> Wilmington (#3 to #5)
>> King's (#4 to #8)
>> Hardin-Simmons (#6 to #4)
*The other five preseason top 10 teams finished as follows:
>> #5 UW-Stevens Point finished #19
>> #7 St. Benedict finished #12
>> #8 Scranton finished #16
>> #9 DePauw finished #23
>> #10 UW-Stout finished unranked.
*The remainder of the Week 13 top 25 started out as follows:
>> #2 Hope was #12
>> #7 Carleton was #14
>> #1 UW-Eau Claire, #9 Messiah, and #10 Gustavus Adolphus were unranked.

That one was pretty good, too.

[David Collinge]

2001 Preseason vs. 2002 Final Regular Season (i.e. Week 13):
*Four of the preseason top 10 were in the Week 13 top 10:
>> Messiah (#1 preseason, #10 Week 13)
>> Wash. U. (#2 to #1)
>> Hope (#4 to #4)
>> UW-Stevens Point (#8 to #9)
*The other six preseason top 10 teams finished as follows:
>> #3 Emmanuel finished #11
>> #9 St. Thomas finished #23
>> #5 New Jersey, #6 UW-Oshkosh, #7 NYU, and #10 Baldwin-Wallace finished unranked.
*The remainder of the Week 13 top 10 started out as follows:
>> #2 Bowdoin was #23
>> #5 Hardin-Simmons was #20
>> #7 Eastern Conn. was #18
>> #3 Wilmington, #6 Southern Maine, and #8 UW-Stout were unranked.

2000 preseason vs. 2001 Final Regular Season (i.e. Week 14):
*Five of the preseason top 10 were in the Week 14 top 10:
>> Wash. U. (#1 preseason, #1 Week 14)
>> Baldwin-Wallace (#2 to #3)
>> NYU (#5 to #2)
>> UW-Eau Claire (#6 to #8)
>> St. Thomas (#7 to #10)
*The other five preseason top 10 teams finished as follows:
>> #3 Capital finished #18
>> #8 St. Lawrence finished #17
>> #9 Hardin-Simmons finished #19
>> #4 UW-Oshkosh and #10 Rowan finished unranked.
*The remainder of the Week 14 top 10 started out as follows:
>> #4 George Fox was #11
>> #5 Hope was #14
>> #6 Millikin, #7 Oneonta St., and #9 New Jersey were unranked.

1999 Preseason vs. 2000 Final Regular Season (i.e. Week 13):
Note: there were 11 preseason top 10 teams that season
*Four of the preseason top 11 were in the the Week 13 top 10:
>> Wash. U. (#1 preseason, #1 Week 13)
>> Capital (#3 to #7)
>> Scranton (#4 to #9)
>> Cortland St. (#10[tie] to #5)
*The other seven preseason top 11 teams finished as follows:
>> #2 St. Benedict finished #11
>> #5 UW-Oshkosh finished #13
>> #8 Pacific Lutheran finished #22
>> #9 Johns Hopkins finished #18
>> #10[tie] NYU finished #15
>> #6 Salem St. and #7 Gallaudet finished unranked.
*The remainder of the Week 13 top 10 started out as follows:
>> #2 UW-Eau Claire was #24
>> #3 Baldwin-Wallace was #12
>> #4 St. Thomas was #23
>> #8 Millikin was #22
>> #10 Simpson was #21
>> #6 Hardin-Simmons was unranked.

Pretty good for a first effort.

[PrideSportBBallGuy]

USA TODAY ESPN DIVISION III TOP 25 COACHES' POLL

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE:
Preseason Poll: October 31, 2006


USA TODAY ESPN Top 25 women's basketball poll, with first-place votes in parentheses, total points based on 25 points for first place through one point for 25th.

Rank, Institution Points
1. University Of Scranton (Pa.) - 4

2. Hope College (Mich.) - 4

3. University Of Southern Maine - 1

4. Bowdoin College (Maine)

5. DePauw University (Ind.)

6. Baldwin-Wallace College (Ohio)

7. Hardin-Simmons University (Texas)

8. University of Mary Washington (Va.)

9. University Of Wisconsin, Stout

10. Washington University (Mo.)

11. Wheaton College (Ill.)

12. Pacific Lutheran University (Wash.0

13. Messiah College (Pa.)

14. University Of Rochester (N.Y.)

15. Calvin College (Mich.)

16. Brandeis University (Mass.)

17. McMurry University (Texas)

18. Bridgewater College (Va.)

19. Williams College (Mass.)

20. New York University

21. Capital University (Ohio)

22. Simpson College (Iowa)

23. Randolph-Macon College (Va.)

24. Carroll College (Wis.)

25. Bates College (Maine)

Others Receiving Votes: University Of Puget Sound (Wash.) - 26; Wilmington College (Ohio) - 23; Salem State College (Mass.) - 20; College Of St. Benedict (Minn.) - 19; Howard Payne University (Texas) - 18; Thomas More College (Ky.) - 15; University Of Wisconsin, Stevens Point - 15; Gwynedd Mercy College (Pa.) - 13; Muhlenberg College (Pa.) - 13; Trinity University (Texas) - 13; University Of Chicago (Ill.) - 13; University Of Wisconsin, La Crosse - 13; Emmanuel College (Mass.) - 12; Maryville College (Mo.) - 12; College Of New Jersey - 6; Montclair State University (N.J.) - 6; Moravian College (Pa.) - 4; Wittenberg University (Ohio) - 4; Oswego State University (N.Y.) - 3; Otterbein College (Ohio) - 3; Medaille College (N.Y.) - 2; Springfield College (Mass.) - 1.

The USA Today ESPN Board of Coaches is made up of 10 head coaches at Division III institutions. All are members of the Women's Basketball Coaches Association (WBCA). The 2006-07 board: Aaron Roussell (University of Chicago), Brian Niemuth (Simpson College), Deb Hunter (Austin College), Helen Higgs (Whitworth College), James Scheible (University of Rochester), Jerry Scheve (Wilmington College), Mike Strong (University of Scranton), Nan Hambrose (St. Marys College of MD), Ron Rohn (Muhlenberg College), Stefanie Pemper (Bowdoin College).

http://www.wbca.org/DIIICoachesPoll.asp

[Pat Coleman]

If there are 10 coaches, why only nine first-place votes?

[PrideSportBBallGuy]

If there are 10 coaches, why only nine first-place votes?

I was wondering that too.  I would have to assume a vote was forgotten on the post.  Or one of the coaches forgot to post it. Could figure it out by doing an investigation of the total points from the website.

[David Collinge]

Here's a quick recap of the poll records for the men and the women, backdated to the end of last season, for anyone who may be interested:

Most weeks receiving at least one vote:  Men--Wooster (108/108); Women--Washington U., Scranton, Hardin-Simmons (109/109)
Most consecutive weeks receiving at least one vote:  same as above (current)

Most weeks in the top 25:  Men--Wooster (100/108); Women--Washington U. (109/109)
Most consecutive weeks in the top 25:  Men--Amherst (63, current); Women--Washington U (109, current)

Most weeks in the top 10:  Men--Wooster (79/108); Women--Washington U. (101/109)
Most consecutive weeks in the top 10:  Men--Wooster (38, current) and Carthage (38); Women--Bowdoin (74, current)

Most weeks ranked #1:  Men--Carthage (22/108); Women--Washington U. (53/109)

Note: the women have had one more poll than the men entering this season.  There was a Week 15 poll for the women, but not the men, in 2003-04.

[David Collinge]

Women's Top 25 News and Notes, Vol. VIII, Issue 110

Congratulations to the Scranton Lady Royals, who ascended the throne in the preseason poll this morning.  This is Scranton's second visit to the top spot, having been #1 in the final regular season poll two seasons ago.

Debutantes
Bridgewater State appears in the voter rolls for the first time in this poll.  Congratulations to the Bears!

High-Water Marks
#21 Bridgewater (Va.) has achieved their highest-ever ranking in this poll.  The Eagles were ranked #23 in last season's final poll.  #18 Howard Payne and #24 Medaille matched their highest-ever rankings, both set last season.  Congratulations to these three great programs!

Streakers

• #12 Washington U. extended its perfect streak of being in each and every top 25 poll.  The Bears have now been members of the top 25 for 110 consecutive weeks.
• Along with Wash U., #1 Scranton and #7 Hardin-Simmons extend their voting streaks to a perfect 110 weeks.
• #2 Bowdoin extends their record streak of being in the top 10 to 75 consecutive weeks.  This poll also marks the Polar Bears' 80th consecutive week as a member of the top 25.
• #10 Messiah is in the top 25 for the 60th straight week; #3 DePauw is a top 25 team for the 40th consecutive week.
• Randolph-Macon fell 18 votes short of the top 25, snapping their streak of 30 straight top 25 appearances.

Milestones

• #6 Southern Maine and New York U. attracted votes for the 100th time each.
• #14 Rochester, together with Simpson, Emmanuel and DeSales, is in the voting for the 60th time; Wittenberg is mentioned for the 30th time; and #23 UW-La Crosse and Oglethorpe are vote-getters for the 10th time.
• Defending champion and #4 Hope is in the top 25 for the 80th week; #11 UW-Stout is a ranked team for the 30th time.

Congratulations to all of these outstanding teams, and best wishes to all D3 women's teams for a successful 2006-07 season! 

[PrideSportBBallGuy]

I must admit, I was surprised to see Greensboro get 16 votes, not that I don't think they deserved it, because they did, but that the pollsters saw it.

[PrideSportBBallGuy]

So who is the new #1?

My bet goes to Southern Maine.  Hope in a close second.

Scranton drops somwhere in the top 10 to abot 6-7.

[David Collinge]

To nobody's surprise, Washington U. owns many of the all-time poll records.  The Bears have never failed to be included in the top 25, recording 109 consecutive weeks without being ranked lower than #14. 

It goes without saying that these records are in serious jeopardy this week.

[newtonnancy]

"WHITEWATER beat Luther convincingly on Saturday afternoon.  The final was 82-59.   After WW built a twelve point lead in the first eight minutes on an upbeat tempo and the strong inside play of Tiffany Morton and Emily Peters the Norse were able to close the gap and trailed by only three at the half 42-39.  But WW dominated the second stanza quickly building the lead back to double digits behind two quick baskets by Morton and Thrisa Thrill's three-pointer and layup.  The lead balloned after that as the WARHAWKS shot nearly 58% from the floor for the half.  Morton took scoring honors with 15 points.  She also had 7 rebounds.  Peters added 12 points and Rachel Woolever 10. "

I DON'T KNOW ABOUT THE REST OF YOU....WHO ARE AWFULLY QUIET.....IN THE UAA, BUT UC IS VERY IMPRESSIVE RIGHT NOW......CASE WIN AGAINST JOHNS HOPKINS IMPRESSIVE AS WELL.....guess we really won't know about Brandeis until they start playing SOMEBODY/ANYBODY preferably somebody with a pulse, ditto NYU, and Wash U til they get it together. Rochester is only team out of the "upper tier" that has answered questions.

Let's go little sisters...UC, Emory, Case, CMU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[PrideSportBBallGuy]

To nobody's surprise, Washington U. owns many of the all-time poll records.  The Bears have never failed to be included in the top 25, recording 109 consecutive weeks without being ranked lower than #14. 

It goes without saying that these records are in serious jeopardy this week.

Speaking of the polls.  I am assuming week 1 will be up very soon, since the men poll is up.  I am not expecting too many changes where teams jump 25 or so spots.  Maybe more at the top dropping down knocking some teams out.

[SKOT]

http://www.d3hoops.com/top25.php?date=2006-11-28&team=w

[Flying Dutch Fan]

So who is the new #1?

My bet goes to Southern Maine.  Hope in a close second.

Scranton drops somwhere in the top 10 to abot 6-7.

Well you got the Hope in a close second part right   

[PrideSportBBallGuy]

So who is the new #1?

My bet goes to Southern Maine.  Hope in a close second.

Scranton drops somwhere in the top 10 to abot 6-7.

Well you got the Hope in a close second part right  

Bowdoin deserves it no doubt though.  I made my prediction well in advance of the Southern Maine-Bowdoin game.  Had SM won they would be #1 in my book and Hope still #2.  I wasn't too far off with Scranton's spot.

Washington U drops out as to be expected.  I think they will bounce back.  How high though