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VT-Alum-NOVA

You can bet that Mary Wash and Salisbury have the #2 ranking up on their bulletin board.  These rivalry games (and Santa Clara) will determine just how elite CNU is this year compared to previous years teams.  I will they are better than (2020, 2019, 2018, 2016) and tied with 2017 team (maybe a little bit better).  Really sad they did not have a 2021 team as vast majority of the current team would have played in 2021.

Quote from: CNU85 on January 04, 2022, 10:38:59 AM
I can see the argument about CNU not having a great SOS and playing a weak schedule. I wonder how much of the respect at being #2 is given due to the fact that if CNU had a tougher schedule that there probably wouldn't be much difference due to the history of the coach.  From his bio...."In seven of his first eight seasons, [Broderick] has led the squad to deep NCAA Tournament runs, including a Final Four effort in 2017, an Elite Eight appearance during the 2013 tournament, and Sweet 16 finishes in 2014, 2016, 2018, 2019, and 2020." and the 2020 season could have been even deeper, but we will never know due to COVID.

I'm not smart enough to figure out what impact this has, if any, on the voters.

Dave 'd-mac' McHugh



The start of the 2022 portion of the basketball season is off to a sluggish one. A number of teams are pausing team activities, postponing or canceling games, or a combination of all of the above as the Omicron variant of the COVID-19 virus blasts through every portion of life in our country.

Thursday night on Hoopsville, we chat about the impact positive test results has caused on the Division III basketball season so far. We also discuss how teams are trying to adjust to changes in schedules. And how this could impact things come late February and March.

Plus there are the teams who, for now, are still playing or trying to play. We talk to some teams who are making heads turn around the country.

You can watch the show LIVE (or on demand) here: https://www.d3hoops.com/hoopsville/archives/2021-22/jan6 or http://www.d3hoops.com/x/lvmbp

We are also simulcasting on our Facebook Live page (www.facebook.com/Hoopsville) AND tonight on our YouTube page (http://www.youtube.com/Hoopsville)

Guests include:
- Brian Niemuth, No. 6 Simpson women's coach
- Juli Fulks, No. 4 Transylvania women's coach
- Kevin App, No. 17 Williams men's coach

Hoopsville is hosted by Dave McHugh from the the NABC Studio. It is presented by D3hoops.com and thanks to our partner WBCA. All guests are featured on the BlueFrame Technology Hoopsville Hotline.

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thebear

Just saw that the Plattsburgh Potsdam swing to western NY has been postponed. 

They are getting a Buffalo style snow storm, with an outbreak of COVID in WNY for good measure.

Be interesting how they reschedule as these are not mid-week trips.

Plattsburgh to Fredonia is right at 450 miles via interstate.

Also wonder what that will do to the Bills game on Sunday?

"Just the Facts, Ma'am, Just the Facts"
- Sgt. Joe Friday

gordonmann

Bills fans are a hearty bunch so I'm guessing they'll be okay with the snow. COVID is another matter.

But this gives me an excuse to post one of my favorite fans-being-silly videos.

Darryl Nester

How They Fared (Complete)

While most software goes through alpha and beta versions, this program just got the omicron update; it now automatically notes games marked as postponements (42 total in this report), cancellations (19), and forfeits (4) - although I just discovered that some forfeits are listed in the database as (e.g.) "2 - 0 Canceled." Such games will be reported here as "Canceled" rather than forfeit wins/losses, unless I decide to update my program further.

FWIW, about 40% of the D3 games scheduled for yesterday were postponed or canceled.

Top 25

Rank   Pts   TeamW-L   Results
#1625Hope11-001/06 vs. Illinois College postponed
#2570Christopher Newport13-001/04 at Mary Baldwin postponed; 01/08 at St. Joseph's (Bklyn.) postponed; 01/09 at Pratt canceled
#3563Amherst8-0def. Williams, 72-54
#4514Transylvania10-001/05 vs. Earlham canceled; 01/08 vs. Defiance postponed
#5490Whitman10-101/07 vs. Linfield postponed; 01/08 vs. Pacific postponed
#6484Simpson12-1def. Buena Vista, 86-38; 01/08 at Luther canceled
#7469Trine10-201/08 at St. Mary's (Ind.) postponed
#8436UW-Whitewater13-1def. #18 UW-Oshkosh, 67-63 OT; def. #10 UW-Eau Claire, 73-64
#9432Tufts10-101/05 vs. #28 Smith postponed; won at Wesleyan, 86-66; won at Babson, 82-67
#10369UW-Eau Claire11-3LOST at #8 UW-Whitewater, 64-73
#11348New York University10-0won at Brandeis, 76-68
#12336John Carroll10-2def. Heidelberg, 2-0 (forfeit); won at Ohio Northern, 54-49
#13253Bowdoin11-3LOST to Trinity (Conn.), 57-60 OT; def. Connecticut College, 77-35
#14241Wartburg10-2def. Central, 58-35; def. Nebraska Wesleyan, 82-61
#15237East Texas Baptist9-201/03 vs. Belhaven canceled; 01/08 at University of the Ozarks canceled
#16234DePauw11-201/08 at Allegheny postponed; 01/09 at Hiram postponed
#17210Baldwin Wallace9-2def. Mount Union, 70-57; def. Muskingum, 60-38
#18174UW-Oshkosh11-3LOST at #8 UW-Whitewater, 63-67 OT; 01/08 vs. UW-River Falls canceled
#19157St. John Fisher10-1def. Alfred, 69-58; won at Sage, 62-52; LOST at Hartwick, 56-65
#20139Springfield12-001/08 vs. #28 Smith postponed
#21138Hardin-Simmons10-201/06 vs. LeTourneau canceled; 01/08 vs. #23 Texas-Dallas canceled; def. McMurry, 88-69
#2288Mary Washington13-1def. (n) Widener, 64-61
#2382Texas-Dallas6-301/03 vs. Austin postponed; 01/06 at McMurry canceled; 01/08 at #21 Hardin-Simmons canceled
#2477Marietta12-1def. Muskingum, 94-72; def. Wilmington, 68-46
#2575Wisconsin Lutheran9-001/04 at MSOE postponed; def. Rockford, 53-37


Others receiving votes
Rank   Pts   TeamW-L   Results
#2660Gettysburg7-201/04 at T#30 Catholic canceled; 01/08 vs. Bryn Mawr postponed
#2755Wheaton (Ill.)10-3LOST to North Park, 71-82
#2852Smith9-101/05 at #9 Tufts postponed; 01/08 at #20 Springfield postponed
#2945Messiah10-2def. Franklin and Marshall, 63-48; 01/05 vs. Penn State-Harrisburg canceled; 01/08 vs. Alvernia canceled
T#3029Catholic10-101/04 vs. #26 Gettysburg canceled; won at Susquehanna, 68-43
T#3029Mary Hardin-Baylor11-2def. Concordia (Texas), 66-59; def. Sul Ross State, 92-81; def. Howard Payne, 77-53
T#3029Trinity (Texas)8-201/08 vs. Texas Lutheran postponed
#3320Roger Williams10-001/04 vs. Gordon postponed; won at Western New England, 76-54; won at Nichols, 82-71
#3418Bates8-301/06 vs. Wheaton (Mass.) postponed; won at Wesleyan, 91-82
#3516Scranton9-2def. Juniata, 78-50
#3611UC Santa Cruz8-201/05 vs. Pomona-Pitzer postponed; 01/08 at Lincoln (CA) postponed
T#376Roanoke9-201/05 at Bridgewater (Va.) postponed; 01/08 at Randolph postponed
T#376St. Lawrence10-001/04 at Cortland postponed; 01/07 at Bard postponed; won at Vassar, 99-81
#395Augsburg8-3def. St. Catherine, 2-0 (forfeit); def. Macalester, 69-55
#402Puget Sound11-1def. Willamette, 69-51; def. Lewis and Clark, 90-83
#411Drew10-001/03 vs. Kean postponed

Titan Q

My conversation with UW-Oshkosh WBB coach Brad Fischer on leading through the current Omicron surge...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OHdGBqHDDb0&t=2564s

0:00 Q-cast on the fly
2:00 Pandemic thoughts when practice started this season
3:35 Impact on the UWO WBB program the last 3 seasons
9:00 Reasons for optimism
13:03 Common ground
15:20 Twitter exchange; Covid protocols
23:31 Contagious nature of the variant; outbreak
31:20 Navigating the polarizing nature of the pandemic
38:00 Perspective helps
41:43 Mental health
46:20 Brad's final thoughts

gordonmann

Awesome. I look forward to listening to this one, Chief Rabbi Quillman. :)

Dave 'd-mac' McHugh



Schedules throughout Division III have become a moving target. We are all used to seeing some postponements or cancelations this time of year thanks to Mother Nature, but these mass changes are giving some PTSD to the 2020-21 "season."

Monday night on Hoopsville, we chat with teams who are still playing for now. Plus those who may deserve a little more attention thanks to tremendous starts to their seasons. And hear from those who are steadily flying slightly under the radar.

We also take a look at all the postponements and cancelations and discuss what may or may not happen as we move forward with the season.

Plus, we react to the latest D3hoops.com Top 25 polls released on Monday.

You can watch the show LIVE (or on demand) here: https://www.d3hoops.com/hoopsville/archives/2021-22/jan10

We are also simulcasting on our Facebook Live page (www.facebook.com/Hoopsville) AND tonight on our YouTube page (http://www.youtube.com/Hoopsville)

Guests include (order subject to change):
- Klay Knueppel, No. 25 Wisconsin Lutheran women's coach
- Trevor Lydic, Berry men's interim coach
- Tyler Simms, Clark men's coach
- Bob Quillman & Ryan Scott, Top 25 Double-Take

Hoopsville is hosted by Dave McHugh from the the NABC Studio. It is presented by D3hoops.com and thanks to our partner WBCA. All guests are featured on the BlueFrame Technology Hoopsville Hotline.

If you have questions, ideas, or want to interact with the show, feel free to send them to hoopsville@d3sports.com or use any of the social media options available.

If you enjoy the show via the podcasts, choose your favorite avenue to listen and/or subscribe via the the following four avenues (click on the images when necessary):
SoundCloud: www.soundcloud.com/hoopsville


 
   

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CNU85

Quote from: VT-Alum-NOVA on January 06, 2022, 04:00:51 PM
You can bet that Mary Wash and Salisbury have the #2 ranking up on their bulletin board.  These rivalry games (and Santa Clara) will determine just how elite CNU is this year compared to previous years teams.  I will they are better than (2020, 2019, 2018, 2016) and tied with 2017 team (maybe a little bit better).  Really sad they did not have a 2021 team as vast majority of the current team would have played in 2021.

Quote from: CNU85 on January 04, 2022, 10:38:59 AM
I can see the argument about CNU not having a great SOS and playing a weak schedule. I wonder how much of the respect at being #2 is given due to the fact that if CNU had a tougher schedule that there probably wouldn't be much difference due to the history of the coach.  From his bio...."In seven of his first eight seasons, [Broderick] has led the squad to deep NCAA Tournament runs, including a Final Four effort in 2017, an Elite Eight appearance during the 2013 tournament, and Sweet 16 finishes in 2014, 2016, 2018, 2019, and 2020." and the 2020 season could have been even deeper, but we will never know due to COVID.

I'm not smart enough to figure out what impact this has, if any, on the voters.

UMW is scary good and very underrated. They are dangerous! Watch out for them this year! Plus, a buddy of mine has a daughter on their team!

gordonmann

I'm looking forward to watching that CNU/UMW game this weekend. Definitely a contrast in styles.

Riley Zayas

Of the unranked teams, UMHB definitely seems to be amongst the top contenders for a Top 25 spot this week. Of course, that depends on the outcome of tomorrow's game at ETBU, which will be a rematch of the 2021 ASC Tournament Championship, but the Crusaders are 8-0 in a conference with three Top 25 teams. Not a single one of those three (Hardin-Simmons, ETBU, UTD) has managed to go perfect in ASC play. Sets up a must-see matchup in East Texas tomorrow night.

We spoke with UMHB head coach Mark Morefield ahead of the matchup: https://truetothecru.com/2022/01/12/asc-championship-rematch-on-tap-for-umhb-womens-basketball-thursday/
Proverbs 21:31 | D3hoops.com WBB Top 25 voter | On the UMHB beat as the managing editor of TrueToTheCru.com, covering everything in CRU athletics | Contributing writer for The Big and The Best of D3 Texas Newsletter | Publisher of The Scoop on D3 Women's Hoops (Find it on the D3hoops.com Daily Dose).

Darryl Nester

How They Fared (So Far)

Top 25

Rank   Pts   TeamW-L   Results
#1625Hope12-0def. Adrian, 100-54; 01/13 at Alma; 01/15 vs. Albion
#2585Christopher Newport13-001/15 at #20 Mary Washington
#3554Amherst8-001/10 at Lehman canceled; 01/14 at T#31 Bates; 01/15 at #9 Tufts
#4528Transylvania11-001/12 vs. Mount St. Joseph postponed; def. Wilmington, 75-42; 01/15 at Anderson
#5503Simpson13-1won at Nebraska Wesleyan, 94-54; 01/15 at Dubuque
#6490Trine11-2def. Alma, 65-49; 01/15 vs. Kalamazoo
#7488Whitman10-101/14 vs. Pacific Lutheran; 01/15 vs. #37 Puget Sound
#8470UW-Whitewater14-1won at UW-Platteville, 62-53; 01/15 vs. UW-River Falls
#9440Tufts10-101/14 vs. Hamilton; 01/15 vs. #3 Amherst
#10371New York University10-001/14 vs. Case Western Reserve; 01/16 vs. Carnegie Mellon
#11334UW-Eau Claire11-4LOST to UW-Stout, 68-72; 01/15 at UW-La Crosse
#12303John Carroll10-2won at Otterbein, 52-47; 01/15 at Wilmington
#13280Wartburg11-2def. Coe, 80-53; 01/15 vs. Buena Vista
#14275East Texas Baptist9-201/13 vs. #27 Mary Hardin-Baylor; 01/15 vs. Concordia (Texas)
#15254Baldwin Wallace10-2def. Ohio Northern, 58-41; 01/15 at Capital
#16238DePauw11-201/15 vs. Ohio Wesleyan
#17198Bowdoin11-301/14 at Williams; 01/15 at Middlebury
#18193Springfield13-0def. Babson, 75-71; 01/15 vs. Wheaton (Mass.)
#19141Hardin-Simmons10-201/13 at Howard Payne; 01/15 at Sul Ross State
#20129Mary Washington13-101/15 vs. #2 Christopher Newport
#21123UW-Oshkosh11-301/12 at UW-Stevens Point canceled; 01/15 vs. UW-Stout canceled
#22120Marietta13-1won at Mount Union, 70-67; 01/15 vs. Heidelberg
#2388Wisconsin Lutheran10-0def. St. Norbert, 50-47; 01/15 at Dominican
#2463Texas-Dallas6-301/15 vs. University of the Ozarks
#2561St. John Fisher10-101/14 vs. T#42 Utica; 01/15 at Elmira


Others receiving votes
Rank   Pts   TeamW-L   Results
#2646Messiah11-2won at Stevenson, 68-57; 01/16 vs. Widener
#2739Mary Hardin-Baylor11-201/13 at #14 East Texas Baptist; 01/15 at Belhaven
#2831Catholic10-101/15 vs. T#42 Drew
#2928Smith9-101/10 at Westfield State postponed; 01/15 at MIT postponed; 01/16 at MIT
#3022Trinity (Texas)10-2def. Howard Payne, 90-58; def. University of Dallas, 91-48; 01/13 at St. Thomas (Texas);
01/15 at Colorado College
T#3117Bates9-3won at St. Joseph's (Maine), 73-72; 01/14 vs. #3 Amherst; 01/15 vs. Hamilton
T#3117Gettysburg8-2won at Muhlenberg, 70-35; 01/13 at Franklin and Marshall; 01/15 vs. Swarthmore
T#3117Roger Williams11-0def. Salve Regina, 72-55; 01/15 at University of New England
#3413Scranton11-2def. Clarks Summit, 69-56; won at Susquehanna, 51-44; 01/15 at Goucher
T#358Augsburg9-3won at St. Mary's (Minn.), 56-49; def. Concordia-Moorhead, 63-44; 01/15 at St. Benedict
T#358St. Lawrence10-001/14 vs. Ithaca; 01/15 vs. RPI
#377Puget Sound11-101/14 at Whitworth; 01/15 at #7 Whitman
#385UC Santa Cruz8-2IDLE
#394Gustavus Adolphus9-2won at St. Benedict, 71-60; 01/15 at St. Scholastica
T#403Millikin12-3def. T#40 Wheaton (Ill.), 68-48; 01/15 vs. Carthage
T#403Wheaton (Ill.)10-4LOST at T#40 Millikin, 48-68; 01/15 vs. North Central (Ill.)
T#421Drew10-001/15 at #28 Catholic
T#421Salisbury12-2IDLE
T#421Utica12-0def. Hartwick, 62-56; 01/14 at #25 St. John Fisher; 01/15 at Nazareth

Dave 'd-mac' McHugh



Believe it or not, the Division III basketball season is basically at it's midway point - at least in terms of games played for most teams. Now everyone's focus turns towards the end of February and positioning themselves for conference tournaments and hopefully NCAA glory.

If COVID will allow, of course.

On Thursday's edition of Hoopsville, we talk with a few programs who appear to be in very good position midway through January. Of course, each will likely tell us there is a long way to go.

Plus we debut the women's edition of the Top 25 Double-Take. Gordon Mann and Riley Zayas, of Tru to the Cru, join the show with their Dubious, Deep Dive, and Debatable teams throughout Division III.

Watch the show On Demand here: https://www.d3hoops.com/hoopsville/archives/2021-22/jan13

Or the simulcast versions on our Facebook Live page (www.facebook.com/Hoopsville) and YouTube page (http://www.youtube.com/Hoopsville)

Guests include:
- Aaron Griess, Augsburg men's coach
- Doreen Carden, Albion women's coach
- Dan Pruessner, Eastern men's coach
- Michele Davis, Utica women's coach
- Women's Top 25 Double-Take: Gordon Mann, D3hoops.com, Riley Zayas, True to the Cru

Hoopsville is hosted by Dave McHugh from the the NABC Studio. It is presented by D3hoops.com and thanks to our partner WBCA. All guests are featured on the BlueFrame Technology Hoopsville Hotline.

If you have questions, ideas, or want to interact with the show, feel free to send them to hoopsville@d3sports.com or use any of the social media options available.

If you enjoy the show via the podcasts, choose your favorite avenue to listen and/or subscribe via the the following four avenues (click on the images when necessary):
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We also have the podcast now on Tune-In and others coming. We will update them once we have better abilities to do so.

Don't forget you can always interact with us:
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scottiedawg

#2428
Bates over Amherst provides some more information on Amherst.

East Text Baptist also lost at Home. That was another team with a very good record but lacking SOS.

Transylvania's SOS in Massey has zoomed way way way up.

Christopher Newport @ Mary Washington (game underway) is obviously the game of the day. (No Sondra Fan for CNU looks like though)

Amherst @ Tufts is another game that will provide fantastic information.

CNU85

No pre-season All-American Fan, and CNU struggles early but is able to pull away at the end 68-61. I couldn't watch on line but followed live stats starting in 2nd. Would have been a great game to watch. I knew UMW would be tough.