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Quote from: Augie2020 on February 18, 2022, 12:50:49 AM
Ronk a great way to solve that instead of going even odds in my eyes would be Guys host Thursday,Friday .Women host Saturday,Sunday .
Women host 1st round Friday
Men host 1st round Saturday
Both host 2nd round Sunday


I know the fans would come out in droves.

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when was the last time a women's team lost hosting rights for both 1st round and sweet 16 due to men's team getting those rights?  or vice versa?

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Quote from: ronk on February 18, 2022, 12:16:25 AM
Question for Megan(women's chair) arising from her hoopsville interview tonite:
#1 CNU women will not be hosting because their men have priority to host this year
WRT to bracketing/hosting for CNU, how will the committee handle this?
Do they come up with the pod as if CNU were hosting and then select 1 of the other 3 in that pod to host? If so, which? 4 seed? 3? 2?
Suppose #1 CNU had not offered to host; would the hosts be seeds 2-17 with CNU playing @ the #17 seed pod, everything else being "normal"?
My guess, CNU goes to play either at Gettysburg or Scranton..... those are only places CNU women have played in 2019 and 2020.  would like to see other options by committee this year.  Like Tufts in 2020, maybe a geographically closer AD qualifier from ODAC?  at least less than 6 hour bus ride for 1st round.

Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan)


As the number one overall seed, I'd hope they get a more appropriate host site - maybe the NJAC representative?  Not too far away, not a major power this year, but plenty of space in the gym.
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Pat Coleman

Quote from: ronk on February 18, 2022, 01:16:48 PM
Quote from: Baldini on February 18, 2022, 12:15:13 PM
Quote from: ronk on February 18, 2022, 12:16:25 AM
Question for Megan(women's chair) arising from her hoopsville interview tonite:
#1 CNU women will not be hosting because their men have priority to host this year
WRT to bracketing/hosting for CNU, how will the committee handle this?
Do they come up with the pod as if CNU were hosting and then select 1 of the other 3 in that pod to host? If so, which? 4 seed? 3? 2?
Suppose #1 CNU had not offered to host; would the hosts be seeds 2-17 with CNU playing @ the #17 seed pod, everything else being "normal"?

These are good questions; I would think they would build the bracket as if CNU was hosting and then play it at one of the other sites. Second seed in that foursome most likely.

2nd seed host would penalize CNU, playing the regional final @ the probable opponent's home court; I'd prefer the 3rd seed who would ostensibly lose the semi to the 2nd seed and there would not be "home" crowd for the final.

Ronk -- I agree with you completely, that these things should not be played at the 2 seed. However, the women's committee has not seemed to agree.
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Ryan, thanks for the mock "this is how you bracket" tutorial.  really informative.  one thing I really liked from 2020 is the committee putting George Fox flying to DC for 1st round, disregarding mileage limit.

ronk

Quote from: VT-Alum-NOVA on February 18, 2022, 04:36:20 PM
when was the last time a women's team lost hosting rights for both 1st round and sweet 16 due to men's team getting those rights?  or vice versa?

  The women won't lose hosting privileges for the sweet 16; they gain the priority over the men for that weekend.

saratoga


One thing the Scranton women have never had to worry about...losing hosting rights.  ;)

ronk

Quote from: saratoga on February 18, 2022, 06:46:01 PM

One thing the Scranton women have never had to worry about...losing hosting rights.  ;)

A dagger!!  ::)

There was a time a few years(more than 5) ago when it looked like the Scranton men were to host, but their preference had to be switched to another region because of geography/flight reason.

Baldini

Quote from: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on February 18, 2022, 05:17:58 PM

As the number one overall seed, I'd hope they get a more appropriate host site - maybe the NJAC representative?  Not too far away, not a major power this year, but plenty of space in the gym.

I think the NCAA committee will have a number of options here. There are conference tournaments to played yet, but Washington& Lee might be an option. Or maybe Catholic as an at-large? Gallaudet might be a surprise play here also. Marymount? Arena might be too small there. There are options.   

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Quote from: ronk on February 18, 2022, 05:48:50 PM
Quote from: VT-Alum-NOVA on February 18, 2022, 04:36:20 PM
when was the last time a women's team lost hosting rights for both 1st round and sweet 16 due to men's team getting those rights?  or vice versa?

  The women won't lose hosting privileges for the sweet 16; they gain the priority over the men for that weekend.
I have not heard this before, this is NCAA rule?

Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan)


It's a policy. No hosting both men and women the same weekend.
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Quote from: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on February 18, 2022, 08:13:47 PM

It's a policy. No hosting both men and women the same weekend.
but if both CNU men and women advance to sweet 16, will CNU women get shaft again and travel?

ronk

 I've heard that priority shifts to the opposite gender for the 2nd weekend; it's not in the pre-championship handbook, however.

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only thing i've heard is odd and even year (meaning for entire tournament).  is that right?