Top 25 discussion

[thx4playing]

NYU tops Ursinus 84-50 in first round action, behind a 53-19 first half...they kept Ursinus from scoring a bucket for the first 8 minutes of play.  Full release: http://www.nyuhoops.com

McEntee with yet another double-double...16 in 26 games.  Insane numbers for a sophomore.

Not sure what they were saying on the broadcast tonight, but NYU looked really tough and well-rounded...

[BachDog]

All the credit in the world goes to McEntee. Anyone who has watched her game evolve this year, would have to say that she has literally transcended the UAA competition and now that play is moving beyond the conference into the spotlight.

I also wanted to give props out to my sis, Karen Bachman, who is a 6'0" Forward and picked up 7 assists last night along with 16 rebounds, 2 blocks and 5 points (the points weren't needed as thx noted).

GO NYU!!!!! By the way, gobombers must be crying..........

[gobombers15]

All the credit in the world goes to McEntee. Anyone who has watched her game evolve this year, would have to say that she has literally transcended the UAA competition and now that play is moving beyond the conference into the spotlight.

I also wanted to give props out to my sis, Karen Bachman, who is a 6'0" Forward and picked up 7 assists last night along with 16 rebounds, 2 blocks and 5 points (the points weren't needed as thx noted).

GO NYU!!!!! By the way, gobombers must be crying..........

Not crying, at all. I live in New Orleans so there are plenty of things to do here that don't include sitting around, crying about a loss in D3 women's basketball. Sure, I'm a little salty that Ithaca let that game get away, but their MO all season was to get out to leads and let teams get back in it. When you do that, you're playing with fire and yesterday it cost them. They had GMC on the ropes three separate times yesterday and just couldn't throw the overhand right to knock them out. I give some credit to GMC, but that's what Ithaca has done all season. They get complacent once they get up double-digits. This was probably the second worst team that Ithaca has had this decade and they were still able to make it to the NCAA's and have a great shot to win at the end. Things just didn't go their way.

Good luck to NYU and GMC. I'll take NYU to win, 79-60.

[TC HOOPS]

gobombers : Ithaca played a good game but GMc played bad untill the last 10 minutes of the game when they finally woke up. If GMC plays like they did against Ithaca NYU will blow them out, they are GOOD!!! But I think they can keep it close, I HOPE...

And you can keep that DIME we bet on the game. Your team showed a lot of heart and actually out played us.

[gobombers15]

gobombers : Ithaca played a good game but GMc played bad untill the last 10 minutes of the game when they finally woke up. If GMC plays like they did against Ithaca NYU will blow them out, they are GOOD!!! But I think they can keep it close, I HOPE...

And you can keep that DIME we bet on the game. Your team showed a lot of heart and actually out played us.

I don't think I ever entered the betting conversation. You're thinking of someone else, I think.

Secondly, GMC playing bad probably had something to do with how well Ithaca was playing. At half, IC was shooting close to 50% while GMC was shooting 35%, yet the Bombers were only up four. Turnovers were killer for Ithaca. Also, I don't remember the last time Ithaca shot so poorly from 3-point land. It didn't help that we had two 70%+ foul shooters miss two front-ends in a row that would have cut GMC's lead to 1 with under 2 minutes to go. Those were backbreakers. Our bench was also outscored 26-8 and that was a lot of the difference, too.

Oh well, good luck to both teams today.

[David Collinge]

It is almost impossible to tell what is going on in the USM/Williams game from the USM broadcast.  I've grown accustomed to not getting score and time updates from college broadcasters, but these two don't even call the action!  It's like listening to two color men with no play-by-play.  I have to try to listen past them to the PA announcer to figure out if someone scores.   

[Dark Knight]

It is almost impossible to tell what is going on in the USM/Williams game from the USM broadcast.  I've grown accustomed to not getting score and time updates from college broadcasters, but these two don't even call the action!  It's like listening to two color men with no play-by-play.  I have to try to listen past them to the PA announcer to figure out if someone scores.   

Hmmm. Sounds...colorful.

Southern Maine escaped with a 6-point home win against unranked no-votes Williams, eh?

[goubears89]

So what are the likely venues for Sweet 16 action? Who gets it in the Bowdoin bracket, presuming we're looking at the Polar Bears, Rochester, Mary Washington and Scranton?

[David Collinge]

Top 25 Tournament Glance      

#   1   Bowdoin (28-1) def. Mt. Holyoke 74-57; def. Keene St. 77-52; plays #19 Rochester (22-5) Fri.
#   2   Howard Payne (28-1) has first-round bye; def. Chapman 76-37; plays Puget Sound (23-6) Fri.
#   3   Scranton (27-2) def. Lehman 64-43; def. Hamilton 58-52; plays #10 Mary Washington (28-2) Fri.
#   4   Messiah (26-3) def. Westminster (PA) 77-65; lost to Kean 89-84; season complete
#   5   Hope (24-4) lost to Denison 82-66 at DePauw; season complete
#   6   NYU (25-2) def. Ursinus 84-50; def. Gwynedd-Mercy 72-60; plays Simpson (23-6) Fri.
#   7   Calvin (27-2) def. Thomas More 53-38 at Wilmington; won at #16 Wilmington 73-67; plays Fitchburg St./#8 Southern Maine winner Fri.
#   8   Southern Maine (26-2) def. Williams 68-62; hosts Fitchburg St. (26-2) Sun.*
#   9   DePauw (27-3) def. Transylvania 74-54; def. Denison 74-66; plays #13 Emmanuel (29-1) Fri.
#   10   Mary Washington (28-2) def. Notre Dame (MD) 66-30; def. Christopher Newport 77-61; plays #3 Scranton (27-2) Fri.
#   11   Washington U. (22-5) def. Manchester 54-52 at Lake Forest; won at #14 Lake Forest 58-47; plays #25 Luther (24-4) Fri.
#   12   McMurry (24-5) lost to Puget Sound 69-57 at George Fox; season complete
#   13   Emmanuel (29-1) def. Salve Regina 80-67; def. #17 Brandeis 71-66; plays #9 DePauw (27-3) Fri.
#   14   Lake Forest (24-3) def. Maryville (MO) 65-61; lost to #11 Washington U. 58-47; season complete
#   15   UW-Stout (23-6) lost to Simpson 91-86; season complete
#   16   Wilmington (25-5) def. Oglethorpe 76-54; lost to #7 Calvin 73-67; season complete
#   17   Brandeis (20-6) def. #21 Maine-Farmington 90-66 at Emmanuel; lost at #13 Emmanuel 71-66; season complete
#   18   Hardin-Simmons (21-5) season complete
#   19   Rochester (22-5) def. St. Lawrence 65-57 at Cortland St.; won at Cortland St. 68-51; plays #1 Bowdoin (28-1) Fri.
#   20   Medaille (23-5) lost at Cortland St. 72-67;season complete
#   21   Maine-Farmington (25-4) lost to #17 Brandeis 90-66 at Emmanuel; season complete
#   22   McDaniel (23-4) lost to William Paterson 69-61 at Randolph-Macon; season complete
#   23   Wheaton (IL) (20-8) def. St. Benedict 79-75 (2 OT) at UW-Stout; lost to Simpson 81-58 at UW-Stout; season complete
#   24   Illinois Wesleyan (22-6) lost to Carroll 86-59 at Luther; season complete
#   25   Luther (24-4) def. Concordia (WI) 72-51; def. Carroll 74-50; plays 11 Washington U. (22-5) Fri.

*Games at Southern Maine Postponed a Day

[TC HOOPS]

Pat Coleman : I GUESS you still think Gwynedd- Mercy should't have been ranked in the TOP 25? Maybe now you will understand why I carried on so much about why I thought they should have been. Ask NYU how good they are. GMC was down 5 with the ball with 2 min. left in the game. And I HATE to complain about REFS but they were a JOKE, talk about homers. When a ref goes up to #25 for NYU and gives her a high 5 when she goes to the foul line with a minute left, that's crime. That being said the BEST team won and I hope your BIG enough to give the GMC girls the RESPECT they deserve.

[Ralph Turner]

Congratulations on the season GMC!  You were 5 down at 4:17 and 5 down at 2:34.

NYU 72, GMC 60

[thx4playing]

I understand GMC fans are upset that they lost, but it was a physical game between two tough teams, and the reffing was poor BOTH ways...

What I am even more incensed about is that the GMC parents were the rudest, most horrible fans that I have ever seen.  I have lived in NYC for 10 years, and never heard parents scream homosexual remarks at players and fans!!  Grow up! 

The 18-22 years olds have more class than the parents, but with upbringing like that are really going to have to fight to survive in the real world outside of their sheltered PA lives. I've really NEVER seen or heard anything like this.  Absolute shame...the parents should be celebrating their kids' accomplishments, not acting like uncultured idiots.

[Ralph Turner]

Pat Coleman : I GUESS you still think Gwynedd- Mercy should't have been ranked in the TOP 25? Maybe now you will understand why I carried on so much about why I thought they should have been. Ask NYU how good they are. GMC was down 5 with the ball with 2 min. left in the game. And I HATE to complain about REFS but they were a JOKE, talk about homers. When a ref goes up to #25 for NYU and gives her a high 5 when she goes to the foul line with a minute left, that's crime. That being said the BEST team won and I hope your BIG enough to give the GMC girls the RESPECT they deserve.

TC, you certainly don't know how to win friends for your program!      Until tonight, your team had not beaten anyone spectacular.  You lost to Kean by 30.  Even Massey had you only in the 50's in margin of victory and staright and Massey's formula was overweighting the ASC, my home conference this year.  (Over-weighting because only HPU has the really large posts that can win at the national level.  Sweet 16 calibre in the ASC, maybe, if HPU bears it out by going deep in the tourney.)  The disparities in the women's bracket are even more dramatic.

Good luck and travel safely.

[gobombers15]

Pat Coleman : I GUESS you still think Gwynedd- Mercy should't have been ranked in the TOP 25? Maybe now you will understand why I carried on so much about why I thought they should have been. Ask NYU how good they are. GMC was down 5 with the ball with 2 min. left in the game. And I HATE to complain about REFS but they were a JOKE, talk about homers. When a ref goes up to #25 for NYU and gives her a high 5 when she goes to the foul line with a minute left, that's crime. That being said the BEST team won and I hope your BIG enough to give the GMC girls the RESPECT they deserve.

And you were also losing to Ithaca for 85% of your first round game. What's your point? You lost. Pat yourself on the back for a fine season. Maybe next year GMC will actually step outside its conference and play somebody respectable. Come up to NY and play some of the better teams (Cortland, St. Lawrence, Rochester, even Ithaca) or get a game with Scranton. Do something besides playing that creampuff schedule of yours. Follow what Medaille did when they were in the same position last year, clamoring for respect but having played nobody; this year, they stepped out and played a tougher schedule and had more respect, including Pat's, heading into the tournament. Learn something from that, TC. I'm sure there are several teams that could have given NYU a game but weren't ranked in the top 25. You REALLY need to get off this. Seriously, it's a tired act.

I have never seen so much whining and snivelling from one poster before. I wish I could say that I'm surprised that you blamed the loss on the refs but, alas, I am not. Get some class. GMC is a relatively young team, they'll be back. I think you need to relax a little bit, though.

[wonder_woman]

I'm with you THX. NYU-Gwynnedd was a hard fought game both ways. The reffing was weak, but no worse than usual. The immature behavior of the Gwynnedd PARENTS was embarrasing to watch. Disgusting actually.

Blaming the loss on the refs is the easy way out too. Bad refs are part of the game, deal with it. Missed foul shots, dumb fouls, and players arguing with their own teammates were responsible for the loss. It's always easy to blame the refs. Add to the list the coach shoving one of his players during a timeout,

TC - I guess you missed the same ref high-fiving one of GMC's players when NYU was shooting.

Been doing this for 15 years and it was the first time I've seen visiting parents asked by security to leave the building.