Top 25 discussion

[Ralph Turner]

One serious question. Do you think it's fair that NYU got to play all four games on their home court to get to the final 4? They don't even do that in HS state playoff games. And yes I know that's because they are all from the same state and it's because of money. But its not like the NCAA made big bucks off of NYU 1500 fans a game. Couldn't they get 1500 fans on any neutral site?

Here's a link to an article in today's Washington Post "Coaches Troubled by Meager Attendance for Women's Tournament" on the D-1 Tournament.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/03/29/AR2007032902271.html

"I supported neutral sites because there were so many people out there that felt like we were ready. Clearly, we're not ready." - Pat Summitt

"To avoid such home-court advantages, the NCAA decided to select sites in advance. ... The drawback is that women's basketball fans haven't shown a willingness to travel for their teams."

The attendance at D-1 games in neutral Los Angeles were way under 1,500 and way lower than the number at the D-3 Sweet 16 games hosted by participant Scranton that I saw.

And, no way NYU had 1,500 fans for its team at the Final Four in neutral Springfield, MA - maybe the snow kept them away?

It makes the 4,356 fans who showed up for the "Chapman at Howard Payne second round game" even that much more impressive.

Click here for other HPU crowds.  HPU hosted the 3 rounds of the ASC Tourney.

[bbald eagle]

From the CAC board:

Capital Crusaders have an interesting page up.
http://www.capital.edu/15898/
Women's DIII News Preseason Top 25 2007-2008

Ranking Capital U #1 in the nation when it didn't win its league or make the NCAA tournament last year is a stretch that greatly undercuts the validity of those Women's DIII News rankings, in my opinion.    If I recall correctly Women's DIII News is a one man show.

Perhaps the truest thing said in the Women's DIII News press release on Capital's website is: "Maintaining any ranking will be a challenge for the Crusaders."

[dballa]

I know this is typically for the D3Hoops Top 25 but I thought I would post the link to the WBCA Preseason Poll here.

http://www.wbca.org/DIIICoachesPoll.asp

[newtonnancy]

Wow a lot f respect for Wash U, I thought they lost a lot, big respect for the UAA with NYU right there (they have their big player back, so I guess that makes sense).

When does the D3 poll come out?

[dballa]

if it comes out about the same time as the past few years it should be out around the 2nd week of November.  But that also depends on when they have time to post it especially with it being in the middle of football season.

[Pat Coleman]

Actually, it's always Nov. 1 or as close as possible if on a weekend.

[dballa]

Well I was trying to look back to previous years and since the preseason one usually isn't dated i was going by when the week one polls were posted. 

apparently not a good assumption to go by

[ILive4This]

Very strange, Brandeis is not on the d3 news or the wbca top 25, yet they got a first place vote in the d3 hoops poll, I for one am confused.

[Ralph Turner]

Very strange, Brandeis is not on the d3 news or the wbca top 25, yet they got a first place vote in the d3 hoops poll, I for one am confused.

Nah, I'm not!

Eastern bias...   

[newtonnancy]

I Live...don't question Brandeis or they will pile on the negative Karma 

[Mr. Ypsi]

Besides, it is always unwise to p*** off Judges!

[Ralph Turner]

I am grateful for the votes for McMurry (and for our fellow ASC-West school and arch-rival Horrid Pain    ), but I am also glad to see the NWC well represented by GFU and UPS.

I listened to the McM-UPS first round game, the UPS-GFU second round game and the UPS-HPU third round game.  I know it is early in the season to be thinking about Top 25 schools, but having followed NWC schools in the post-season for several seasons now, the 'cream' definitely rises to the top in the NWC.

Also, please keep an eye out for HSU.  They are reloading, during a transient drop from the polls.

[feces monkey]

A Ralph Turner HSU post without a mention of attendance figures?

Must be early season jitters...

[Pat Coleman]

FM: Ralph has made nearly 14,000 posts. It's dangerous to make a blanket statement based on a few of them.

I see you rehabbed your karma by not posting for a while. That might not last long with posts like that.

[feces monkey]

I'll leave discussion of karma to the passive-aggressive types who attempt to wield it as a cudgel.

As a NESCAC grad, my true karma is already assured...