Top 25 discussion

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ichouse

would be interesting to see sos rankings with top 25 list

Darryl Nester

How They Fared

Better late than never ....

Top 25

Rank   Pts   TeamW-L   Results
#1617Amherst27-0def. Bates, 77-43; def. #23 Colby, 69-54
#2595Kean26-1def. Montclair State, 92-68; def. #8 William Paterson, 70-62
#3571Illinois Wesleyan26-1def. Millikin, 87-52; def. Elmhurst, 82-72
#4555Hope27-1def. Alma, 76-52; def. Adrian, 66-54; def. #11 Calvin, 68-49
#5513George Fox25-2def. Lewis and Clark, 98-57; def. #13 Puget Sound, 77-51
#6490Washington U.23-2def. #21 Chicago, 71-60
#7458Marymount26-1def. Wesley, 70-55; def. #24 Mary Washington, 50-48
#8448William Paterson25-2def. Rowan, 75-60; LOST at #2 Kean, 62-70
#9410Moravian25-2def. Susquehanna, 52-44; def. #15 Scranton, 66-49
#10398Carthage22-4LOST to (n) Elmhurst, 56-68
#11368Calvin24-4def. Olivet, 76-57; def. St. Mary's (Ind.), 90-71; LOST at #4 Hope, 49-68
#12358Christopher Newport28-0def. Greensboro, 69-58; def. Methodist, 78-56; def. Ferrum, 82-70
#13321Puget Sound23-4def. Whitworth, 68-55; LOST at #5 George Fox, 51-77
#14274DePauw25-3def. Southwestern, 81-43; def. Rhodes, 77-50; def. Centre, 63-37
#15258Scranton22-5def. Juniata, 70-62; LOST at #9 Moravian, 49-66
#16217Thomas More25-3def. Thiel, 75-51; def. Chatham, 68-40; def. Westminster (Pa.), 77-67
#17209Louisiana College24-2def. Hardin-Simmons, 72-69; def. T#34 Howard Payne, 68-55; def. McMurry, 73-69 OT
#18162Washington and Jefferson23-4def. Bethany, 66-65; LOST to (n) Westminster (Pa.), 61-64
#19124Lebanon Valley23-4def. Alvernia, 87-77; LOST to #20 Messiah, 55-60
#20120Messiah23-4def. Widener, 85-70; def. #19 Lebanon Valley, 60-55
#21113Chicago19-6LOST to #6 Washington U., 60-71
#2286Muhlenberg21-5def. Dickinson, 62-50; LOST to McDaniel, 56-72
#2379Colby23-4def. #26 Bowdoin, 75-64; LOST at #1 Amherst, 54-69
#2459Mary Washington21-5def. York (Pa.), 75-61; LOST to #7 Marymount, 48-50
#2557Tufts20-5IDLE


Others receiving votes
Rank   Pts   TeamW-L   Results
#2655Bowdoin20-6LOST to (n) #23 Colby, 64-75
#2751Farmingdale State25-1def. SUNY-Purchase, 79-55; def. T#37 Mount St. Mary, 67-58
#2827Ithaca22-5def. St. John Fisher, 72-66; LOST to Utica, 37-38
#2924Gettysburg22-4LOST to (n) McDaniel, 67-72
#3023UW-Whitewater20-7def. UW-Eau Claire, 73-68; LOST to #33 UW-Stevens Point, 64-68
#3122St. Norbert22-3def. Illinois College, 69-54; def. Ripon, 73-57
#3220Mount Union24-4def. Otterbein, 59-56; def. Baldwin-Wallace, 71-61; def. Capital, 80-71
#3318UW-Stevens Point21-6def. UW-Stout, 82-74; def. #30 UW-Whitewater, 68-64
T#346Howard Payne21-6def. Mississippi College, 73-68; LOST at #17 Louisiana College, 55-68
T#346Rochester19-6def. Emory, 67-62
#365Hendrix20-5def. Oglethorpe, 73-52; LOST to (n) Centre, 77-86
T#374Mount St. Mary22-5def. Mount St. Vincent, 73-46; LOST at #27 Farmingdale State, 58-67
T#374Roanoke23-3def. Lynchburg, 88-64; LOST to (n) Virginia Wesleyan, 49-52

David Collinge

D3 women's hoops fans, and Wash U. fans in particular: don't let ESPN get away with their campaign of misinformation.  They kept saying during the D1 championship game that UConn was going to become the first team in "women's college basketball history" to have back-to-back unbeaten championship seasons.   LET 'EM HEAR YOU.  Twitter, email, Facebook, heck even postcards, but LET 'EM HEAR YOU.

Pat Coleman

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gordonmann

QuoteI posted on Linda Cohn's wall.

How'd you get by security? :)

Mechelle Voepel's column on ESPN.com appropriately credits Wash U so the message is getting through some places.

WUPHF

Quote from: David Collinge on April 06, 2010, 10:43:58 PM
D3 women's hoops fans, and Wash U. fans in particular: don't let ESPN get away with their campaign of misinformation.  They kept saying during the D1 championship game that UConn was going to become the first team in "women's college basketball history" to have back-to-back unbeaten championship seasons.   

I have e-mailed NPR and USA Today.  That is as far as this obsessed fan is prepared to go.

Incidentally, of the four Division III tournament games I watched, all four were much, much more enjoyable to watch then the game last night.

sumfun

I couldn't agree more.  Whether it's been the Final Four D3 games I've seen in person or any other the top 25 schools I've seen on webcast or in person, the games have been much more entertaining than last night.  D3 may not have the height of D1, and I don't even know if I can say D3 is a step slower, but D3 does have great shooters and fun games!!!

Title9Fan

Quote from: sumfun on April 07, 2010, 10:43:48 PM
D3 may not have the height of D1, and I don't even know if I can say D3 is a step slower, but D3 does have great shooters and fun games!!!

While the Final was a definite disappointment, it was just one game and an anomoly for both teams in shooting.  The top D1 and top D3 teams are incomparable.  There are no Maya Moores or Jayne Appels in D3.  As for speed, you were joking, right?  The venue/crowd size and pressure of a national D1 champsionship is just one of a dozen factors that render such comparisons useless.

 

kate

Good Morning, Title 9 Fan!  Seriously, i don't believe that sumfun actually was comparing the level of play between D1 & D3 - just comparing the joy a game can bring.  The outcome of that Connecticut/Stamford game Tuesday night was perfect as far as i'm concerned although it was hard to see Appel go down like that, especially when she was hurting to begin with.  Until the Rutger's Women's Basketball team wins a national championship, i do agree with sumfun that a D3 game, even the most uneventful contest, brings loads of happiness.  Many times i've felt like that commercial - we don't want this game to end - send it into overtime  ;)

sumfun

You got it right Kate.  Pure enjoyment of watching athletes in action, physical play and great shooting, plus close to the action.  Such a fan of D3 sports!!!

WUPHF

Quote from: Title9Fan on April 08, 2010, 08:41:08 AM
While the Final was a definite disappointment, it was just one game and an anomoly for both teams in shooting.  The top D1 and top D3 teams are incomparable.  There are no Maya Moores or Jayne Appels in D3.  As for speed, you were joking, right?  The venue/crowd size and pressure of a national D1 championship is just one of a dozen factors that render such comparisons useless.

I am not sure why I said what I said about the quality of the Division I title game.  Mostly I think I was reflecting back on the quality of the Division III tournament games I watched.

Having said that, it is possible to compare the top teams of each level.  I am not suggesting that Hope or Washington University could run with Stanford or the University of Connecticut, but the top teams all have a lot of things in common.  In comparing the pressure of Division I title game with a Division III title game, I will defer to someone who has played at that level, but I have to think that many would disagree.  It does seem to me that a packed house of passionate fans is indeed a packed house, whether it is 4,000 or 22,000 fans.  All speculation on my part.

I would pay to see Hope or Washington University go up against Emporia State.

I do agree the loads of happiness remark.  10 years ago, I never would have attended a Women's Basketball game.  This year, I watched probably 25 games or more between Washington University and the local high school where my wife works (her team won the state title and finished in the ESPN Rise Top 25).

Title9Fan

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Quote from: WUH on April 08, 2010, 02:00:41 PM
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Having said that, it is possible to compare the top teams of each level.  I am not suggesting that Hope or Washington University could run with Stanford or the University of Connecticut, but the top teams all have a lot of things in common.  In comparing the pressure of Division I title game with a Division III title game, I will defer to someone who has played at that level, but I have to think that many would disagree.  It does seem to me that a packed house of passionate fans is indeed a packed house, whether it is 4,000 or 22,000 fans.  All speculation on my part.


Knowing (and having asked) a few of the players from top teams in both D1 and D3 this year, I am certain that they do not think it's the same at all (playoff games of 4,000 vs. 22,000 fans).  The vast majority of the top D3 players have enormous respect for the difference and don't understand why we'd want to compare the two.  As usual,  I agree with most of your other comments though.

Both are great games to watch, but they are most definitely very different games.     The Wash U players don't want to play UConn any more than George Fox wants to play Stanford.  

Cant' wait for next year's WBB games  - D1 and D3 both!


sumfun


Mr. Ypsi

Pre-season #3 IWU, #7 WashU, and #12 DePauw all went 1-1 at the DePauw Tip-off Invitational.  It will be interesting to see how they are ranked this week.

ronk

  Leave them right where they were last week ;)