Top 25 discussion

[GuyFormerlyPSBBG]

#32 Greensboro all over Meredith tonight 85-56.  They led 45-14 at the break.  They forced 19 TO's in the first half, yes more TO's then points.  (They also forced more TO's then shots attempted) That is how a potential top 25 team should play.  Good game.

[Pat Coleman]

I suppose. It's just hard to learn much from a game against Meredith.

[GuyFormerlyPSBBG]

I suppose. It's just hard to learn much from a game against Meredith.

What I really meant, for a team of Meredith's level, thats how a potential top 25 team should handle them.

[Darryl Nester]

How They Fared--Midweek report

So far, only four losses among these teams, by a total of 13 points...

Top 25

Rank	Pts	Team	W-L	Results
#1	620	Amherst	12-0	def. Wesleyan, 84-47; 01/08 vs. #4 Williams
#2	602	Hope	12-0	def. St. Mary's (Ind.), 83-64; 01/08 vs. Adrian
#3	528	Thomas More	12-0	def. Geneva, 64-35; def. Washington and Jefferson, 58-52; 01/08 at Waynesburg
#4	517	Williams	12-0	def. Bridgewater State, 87-68; 01/08 at #1 Amherst
#5	510	Washington U.	9-2	01/08 at T#39 Chicago
#6	486	Christopher Newport	10-1	def. Shenandoah, 59-40; 01/08 at Mary Baldwin
#7	454	Babson	10-0	01/06 vs. Springfield; 01/08 vs. Mount Holyoke
#8	436	Rochester	9-1	def. Rochester Tech, 79-40; 01/08 vs. Emory
#9	432	Kean	11-2	def. Rowan, 71-59; 01/08 vs. Montclair State
#10	376	UW-Stevens Point	11-2	def. UW-Oshkosh, 54-42; 01/08 vs. T#28 UW-La Crosse
#11	361	Illinois Wesleyan	9-3	def. North Central (Ill.), 88-67; 01/08 at #16 Carthage
#12	351	DePauw	10-2	01/07 at Oglethorpe; 01/09 at Sewanee
#13	314	Mount Union	10-2	LOST at Marietta, 69-73; 01/08 vs. Ohio Northern
#14	308	Muhlenberg	8-1	LOST at Dickinson, 60-63; 01/08 vs. McDaniel
#15	266	UW-Whitewater	11-2	def. Edgewood, 91-63; 01/08 vs. #34 UW-River Falls
#16	211	Carthage	9-3	LOST at Wheaton (Ill.), 62-66; 01/08 vs. #11 Illinois Wesleyan
#17	170	Lebanon Valley	11-1	def. Salisbury, 74-46; 01/06 vs. Manhattanville; 01/08 at Arcadia
#18	168	Bowdoin	9-1	def. Clark, 82-46; 01/06 vs. Emerson; 01/08 at Emmanuel
T#19	148	Louisiana College	10-0	01/06 at Hardin-Simmons; 01/08 at McMurry
T#19	148	Medaille	10-1	def. Hilbert, 82-35; 01/08 vs. Mount Aloysius
#21	143	George Fox	8-3	01/07 at Lewis and Clark; 01/08 vs. Pacific
#22	86	Johns Hopkins	9-1	def. Bryn Mawr, 78-22; 01/08 vs. Ursinus
#23	78	Mississippi College	11-0	01/06 at McMurry; 01/08 at Hardin-Simmons
#24	72	Puget Sound	9-2	01/07 at Whitman; 01/08 at Whitworth
#25	69	St. Norbert	9-1	def. Lake Forest, 61-57; 01/08 vs. Carroll

Others receiving votes

Rank	Pts	Team	W-L	Results
#26	55	Western Connecticut	9-1	def. CCNY, 84-32; 01/06 vs. Lasell; 01/08 vs. Plymouth State
#27	23	William Paterson	11-2	def. Moravian, 71-63; def. Rutgers-Newark, 77-58; 01/08 vs. Rowan
T#28	21	Denison	13-0	def. Kenyon, 72-69; 01/08 at Ohio Wesleyan
T#28	21	UW-La Crosse	11-3	def. UW-Superior, 61-59; 01/08 at #10 UW-Stevens Point
T#30	19	Colby	8-1	01/06 at Bates; 01/08 vs. Thomas
T#30	19	Gallaudet	9-0	01/08 at SUNYIT; 01/09 at SUNY-Cobleskill
T#32	15	Greensboro	10-0	def. Meredith, 85-56; 01/08 vs. Averett
T#32	15	St. Vincent	10-1	def. Washington and Jefferson, 72-32; 01/06 at Geneva; 01/08 at Bethany
#34	13	UW-River Falls	11-3	def. UW-Stout, 61-47; 01/08 at #15 UW-Whitewater
#35	12	Millikin	9-3	def. Elmhurst, 68-59; 01/08 at North Park
#36	11	Wartburg	12-0	01/08 vs. Dubuque
#37	8	Wisconsin Lutheran	8-1	01/06 vs. Mount Mary; 01/08 vs. Benedictine
#38	7	Baldwin-Wallace	10-2	def. John Carroll, 78-64; 01/08 vs. Capital
T#39	5	Calvin	9-3	01/08 vs. Olivet
T#39	5	Chicago	8-3	01/08 vs. #5 Washington U.
#41	4	Bridgewater (Va.)	8-1	LOST at Roanoke, 63-65; 01/07 vs. Hollins; 01/08 at Washington and Lee
#42	3	Tufts	8-1	def. RPI, 78-59; 01/06 vs. Regis (Mass.)
#43	2	Coe	10-2	def. Dubuque, 63-60; 01/08 at Central
#44	1	Concordia-Moorhead	8-1	def. Macalester, 74-54; def. Augsburg, 71-45; 01/08 at St. Benedict

Other teams to watch (as suggested by posters on this board)

Rank	Pts	Team	W-L	Results
---	---	Hanover	11-0	def. Bluffton, 78-59; 01/08 at Earlham

[BH2OFan]

How They Fared--Midweek report

Bridgewater (Va.)[/td][td]8-1[/td][td]LOST at Roanoke, 63-65; 01/07 vs. Hollins; 01/08 at Washington and Lee[/td][/tr][/table]

Heartbreaker for Bridgewater- they held a mostly double digit lead for 36 minutes of the game, largely without the services of all-ODAC first teamer Burkholder who had foul trouble. If you told me before the game Burkholder would play 16 minutes, score 4 points, and Roanoke would need a last second basket by a Tennessee recruit to beat us, I'd take it.

[sunny]

FWIW, UW-River Falls lost to UW-Oshkosh on 12/11, 61-52. The score was never reported.

[Darryl Nester]

FWIW, UW-River Falls lost to UW-Oshkosh on 12/11, 61-52. The score was never reported.

I edited their record in the report above to show them as 11-3, but I won't promise that I'll remember to do that again on Sunday.

[WLCALUM83]

That Wisconsin Lutheran/Benedictine battle should be interesting:  Benedictine was the pre-season pick to win the NAthCon South Division. The Warriors are going to have their hands full if the IL Eagle's Conerty and Co. keep up their high level of connecting on 3 pointers.

[beltsh97]

Just thought those of you who are interested would like to know that #1 Amherst and #9 Kean have scheduled a game for this Tuesday @ 6pm at Kean. Both teams needed to add a game after recent cancellations. Quite a matchup of 2 top 10 teams out of conference late in the season.

[Ralph Turner]

Just thought those of you who are interested would like to know that #1 Amherst and #9 Kean have scheduled a game for this Tuesday @ 6pm at Kean. Both teams needed to add a game after recent cancellations. Quite a matchup of 2 top 10 teams out of conference late in the season.

This is a quality in-region game.

Winner of this game might go a long way in locking in the #1 seed for the Round of 16.

[dahlby]

Happy to see both coaches taking on the challenge. True competitors!
Much respect to both coaches.

[WLCALUM83]

That Wisconsin Lutheran/Benedictine battle should be interesting:  Benedictine was the pre-season pick to win the NAthCon South Division. The Warriors are going to have their hands full if the IL Eagle's Conerty and Co. keep up their high level of connecting on 3 pointers.

Final:  Wisconsin Lutheran 78, Benedictine 51 
                (I eat my crow with a smile)

  per Warrior stats, Benedictine was up by 2 at the half, but the Warriors went on a 29-4 scoring run to break it open.

            (I'd love to eat plenty more of that crow--about 2 months worth    )

[BH2OFan]

#41 Bridgewater (VA) drummed by Washington & Lee 87-67. Thanks to the voters last week. I will be a reader of the topic as a fan, but my short lived career as a lobbyist is over

[Darryl Nester]

How They Fared

Sorry about not getting this posted last night; I was busy watching The Cape getting ready for the first day of classes and forgot.

(Monday afternoon: Added Lagrange to the end of the report.)


Top 25

Rank	Pts	Team	W-L	Results
#1	620	Amherst	13-0	def. Wesleyan, 84-47; def. #4 Williams, 85-63
#2	602	Hope	13-0	def. St. Mary's (Ind.), 83-64; def. Adrian, 73-47
#3	528	Thomas More	13-0	def. Geneva, 64-35; def. Washington and Jefferson, 58-52; def. Waynesburg, 59-44
#4	517	Williams	12-1	def. Bridgewater State, 87-68; LOST at #1 Amherst, 63-85
#5	510	Washington U.	9-3	LOST at T#39 Chicago, 71-73
#6	486	Christopher Newport	11-1	def. Shenandoah, 59-40; def. Mary Baldwin, 88-47
#7	454	Babson	12-0	def. Springfield, 64-35; def. Mount Holyoke, 76-33
#8	436	Rochester	10-1	def. Rochester Tech, 79-40; def. Emory, 72-61
#9	432	Kean	12-2	def. Rowan, 71-59; def. Montclair State, 77-54
#10	376	UW-Stevens Point	12-2	def. UW-Oshkosh, 54-42; def. T#28 UW-La Crosse, 75-73
#11	361	Illinois Wesleyan	10-3	def. North Central (Ill.), 88-67; def. #16 Carthage, 70-60
#12	351	DePauw	12-2	def. Oglethorpe, 71-48; def. Sewanee, 87-31
#13	314	Mount Union	11-2	LOST at Marietta, 69-73; def. Ohio Northern, 66-56
#14	308	Muhlenberg	9-1	LOST at Dickinson, 60-63; def. McDaniel, 74-66
#15	266	UW-Whitewater	12-2	def. Edgewood, 91-63; def. #34 UW-River Falls, 72-63
#16	211	Carthage	9-4	LOST at Wheaton (Ill.), 62-66; LOST to #11 Illinois Wesleyan, 60-70
#17	170	Lebanon Valley	13-1	def. Salisbury, 74-46; def. Manhattanville, 78-70; def. Arcadia, 71-38
#18	168	Bowdoin	11-1	def. Clark, 82-46; def. Emerson, 88-47; def. Emmanuel, 80-65
T#19	148	Louisiana College	11-1	def. Hardin-Simmons, 85-71; LOST at McMurry, 60-65
T#19	148	Medaille	12-1	def. Hilbert, 82-35; def. Mount Aloysius, 83-49; def. La Roche, 68-53
#21	143	George Fox	9-4	LOST at Lewis and Clark, 56-58; def. Pacific, 89-53
#22	86	Johns Hopkins	9-2	def. Bryn Mawr, 78-22; LOST to Ursinus, 75-79
#23	78	Mississippi College	11-2	LOST at McMurry, 43-51; LOST at Hardin-Simmons, 57-58
#24	72	Puget Sound	10-3	def. Whitman, 60-58; LOST at Whitworth, 67-69
#25	69	St. Norbert	10-1	def. Lake Forest, 61-57; def. Carroll, 69-57

Others receiving votes

Rank	Pts	Team	W-L	Results
#26	55	Western Connecticut	11-1	def. CCNY, 84-32; def. Lasell, 92-32; def. Plymouth State, 77-34
#27	23	William Paterson	12-2	def. Moravian, 71-63; def. Rutgers-Newark, 77-58; def. Rowan, 87-59
T#28	21	Denison	14-0	def. Kenyon, 72-69; def. Ohio Wesleyan, 76-64
T#28	21	UW-La Crosse	11-4	def. UW-Superior, 61-59; LOST at #10 UW-Stevens Point, 73-75
T#30	19	Colby	9-2	LOST at Bates, 87-93; def. Thomas, 98-51
T#30	19	Gallaudet	11-0	def. SUNYIT, 66-59; def. SUNY-Cobleskill, 61-57
T#32	15	Greensboro	11-0	def. Meredith, 85-56; def. Averett, 70-49
T#32	15	St. Vincent	12-1	def. Washington and Jefferson, 72-32; def. Geneva, 60-30; def. Bethany, 76-64
#34	13	UW-River Falls	11-4	def. UW-Stout, 61-47; LOST at #15 UW-Whitewater, 63-72
#35	12	Millikin	10-3	def. Elmhurst, 68-59; def. North Park, 67-60
#36	11	Wartburg	13-0	def. Dubuque, 78-61
#37	8	Wisconsin Lutheran	10-1	def. Mount Mary, 94-50; def. Benedictine, 78-51
#38	7	Baldwin-Wallace	10-3	def. John Carroll, 78-64; LOST to Capital, 58-67
T#39	5	Calvin	10-3	def. Olivet, 68-34
T#39	5	Chicago	9-3	def. #5 Washington U., 73-71
#41	4	Bridgewater (Va.)	9-2	LOST at Roanoke, 63-65; def. Hollins, 89-63; LOST at Washington and Lee, 67-87
#42	3	Tufts	9-1	def. RPI, 78-59; def. Regis (Mass.), 58-47
#43	2	Coe	11-2	def. Dubuque, 63-60; def. Central, 66-61
#44	1	Concordia-Moorhead	8-2	def. Macalester, 74-54; def. Augsburg, 71-45; LOST at St. Benedict, 70-77

Other teams to watch (as suggested by posters on this board)

Rank	Pts	Team	W-L	Results
---	---	Hanover	12-0	def. Bluffton, 78-59; def. Earlham, 96-60
---	---	Lagrange	10-0	def. Spelman, 88-61; def. Agnes Scott, 65-51; def. Rust, 84-65

[GuyFormerlyPSBBG]

Team	Record
Hanover	12-0
Wartburg	13-0
Hope	11-0
Babson	12-0
Denison	14-0
Gallaudet	11-0
Thomas More	13-0
Greensboro	11-0
Ameherst	11-0
LaGrange	10-0
There are now 9 10 unbeaten teams 4 of which are ranked.  Not sure how LaGrange managed to get off the list, but they are still undefeated.  They have not received votes yet either.  Familiar with the south, I am aware of possible reasons why LaGrange has not received votes. We had 5 teams fall from the unbeaten ranks since last post. Who has the best chance of staying unbeaten?  If you were to rank them in order of how likely they will stay unbeaten how would it go?