Top 25 discussion

[sunny]

How did Gettysburg (19-7, lost in conference semis) get 17 vote-points in this week's poll? Am thinking that may have been an error ...

[ichouse]

How did Gettysburg (19-7, lost in conference semis) get 17 vote-points in this week's poll? Am thinking that may have been an error ...

Very strange they had not received any votes the week prior. They show up in the Coaches poll also

[BlueZoneBruin]

They hadn't received votes since week 2 (13 votes)!

[GuyFormerlyPSBBG]

The next top 25 poll isn't released until after the conclusion of the season correct?

[Mr. Ypsi]

The next top 25 poll isn't released until after the conclusion of the season correct?

correct

[GuyFormerlyPSBBG]

http://depauwwbb.wordpress.com/2011/10/14/diii-news-preseason-poll-released/

Managed to track down the women's preseason poll after finding out that NCWC men were #25 in the men's poll.  Even I think this poll is a bit premature.

You see your typically ranked teams here, but I have no idea how they managed to come up with this poll.  Anyone know what goes into the poll?

[KnightSlappy]

http://depauwwbb.wordpress.com/2011/10/14/diii-news-preseason-poll-released/

Managed to track down the women's preseason poll after finding out that NCWC men were #25 in the men's poll.  Even I think this poll is a bit premature.

You see your typically ranked teams here, but I have no idea how they managed to come up with this poll.  Anyone know what goes into the poll?

My impression has always been that they draw names out of a hat.

[GuyFormerlyPSBBG]

Nice job with the poll.  I thought Greensboro could have been a little bit higher (not in the top-10.) However, I think they were given a fair assessment.  The invention of the internet was probably the best thing that could have ever happened to d3 sports.  I can watch a fair number of games on the internet via video streaming. I am sure it makes the jobs of the pollsters a tad bit easier assessing teams.  I managed to track down some of the players Greensboro brought in this year (max preps and similar websites), I was very impressed.  If those players are able to pick up the system and do the things they are supposed to do, I think this could be the deepest team Greensboro has ever had.

[sunny]

As with all preseason polls, this was tough.  My individual ballot varied greatly in some spots from the overall results, but I am not surprised to see a 47-point gap between third and fourth, nor a 61-point gap between sixth and seventh.  I've got the same "top three" (albeit in a different order) and the same "next three" (albeit in a different order).  Wasn't too hard placing those six teams at the top, though the order was a challenge. Of course, by the end of the season, I'm sure the top six will look different. That's why they play the games!

[Captain Bob]

Great to see Greensboro (USAC) in the top 25.  Interesting that Christopher Newport was RV and no mention of Ferrum given we were picked 3rd in the conference poll (Ferrum was 2nd, Greensboro 1st).  Maybe the national voters remember the tournament run and forgot we lost a coach and three starters?

Looking forward to a great season though.

[Backseat Driver]

WBCA poll: http://www.wbca.org/blog/index.cfm/2011/11/1/20112012-PreSeason-DIII-Poll/

Overall it's pretty similar to the D3hoops.com poll

[GuyFormerlyPSBBG]

Great to see Greensboro (USAC) in the top 25.  Interesting that Christopher Newport was RV and no mention of Ferrum given we were picked 3rd in the conference poll (Ferrum was 2nd, Greensboro 1st).  Maybe the national voters remember the tournament run and forgot we lost a coach and three starters?

Looking forward to a great season though.

Interesting point.  I think these are "reputation" points more than anything.  I would expect CNU to get votes (I didn't expect as many) but a team that went to the final 4 should be able to pull in some quality players the year after.

BIAS ALERT!! I think CNU's run to the final 4 was in the weakest bracket, and therefore a little bit inflated.  I don't think I am completely off base saying it though. In the d3hoops era no team east of the Mississippi River has won a national title.  I think that was mentioned on a Hoopsville segment. Although Amherst broke that record with the title last year.

I am not sure the USASouth has enough to challenge the top tier teams.

[David Collinge]

In the d3hoops era no team east of the Mississippi River has won a national title.  I think that was mentioned on a Hoopsville segment. Although Amherst broke that record with the title last year.

Not quite. Perhaps what was said was that the three champions prior to Amherst were all from the land of K-radio stations.  But the four prior to that (DePauw 2007, Hope 2006, Millikin 2005, Wilmington 2004) are all found east of the Big Muddy.

They're all west of the Ohio, though, for what it's worth.

[GuyFormerlyPSBBG]

In the d3hoops era no team east of the Mississippi River has won a national title.  I think that was mentioned on a Hoopsville segment. Although Amherst broke that record with the title last year.

Not quite. Perhaps what was said was that the three champions prior to Amherst were all from the land of K-radio stations.  But the four prior to that (DePauw 2007, Hope 2006, Millikin 2005, Wilmington 2004) are all found east of the Big Muddy.

They're all west of the Ohio, though, for what it's worth.

It was hard to remember back to March.  I don't remember what I ate even last month.  Maybe it was the Ohio River or the Appalachian Mountains, it was a major landmark.

Either way teams from the east haven't won titles prior to Amherst

[Pat Coleman]

Actually, it was the East half of Division III (New England, Atlantic, East, Mid-Atlantic regions) that hadn't won one since 1997. The four westernmost regions had won them all.

Definitely reputation points for CNU but usually you'd be hard-pressed to find a Final Four team that didn't at least make the Top 25 the next season. I don't think they forgot anything, Captain Bob, because it was listed in the information we gave them.