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Darryl Nester

How They Fared (Complete)

Oops. On Thursday, I must have previewed but never posted the mid-week report. Sorry about that.

In any case ... no Sunday games for this group of teams, so here's the complete report.

Top 25

Rank   Pts   TeamW-L   Results
#1609Bowdoin8-0def. Maine-Farmington, 96-27; def. T#45 Mass-Dartmouth, 75-67; def. Bates, 107-52
#2580Hope6-0def. Albion, 74-66
#3574St. Thomas7-0def. Bethel, 73-64; def. Carleton, 92-30
#4549Thomas More11-0def. #5 Chicago, 84-71; def. Marietta, 81-75; def. Whitworth, 104-65; def. T#42 Whitman, 80-63
#5524Chicago6-1LOST to #4 Thomas More, 71-84
#6505Tufts8-0def. Bridgewater State, 80-42; def. University of New England, 85-59
#7477Amherst6-1def. Maine Maritime, 68-39
#8467Scranton6-0IDLE
#9405George Fox6-1def. Multnomah, 78-51
#10338Messiah9-1def. Hood, 61-47; def. Alvernia, 66-31
#11311Trine8-1def. Kalamazoo, 75-38; def. Calvin, 62-50
#12308St. Joseph's (Maine)9-0def. Maine Maritime, 79-58; def. Colby, 73-58; def. Husson, 60-49
#13264Illinois Wesleyan8-2def. UW-Stevens Point, 77-72; def. Elmhurst, 81-61; def. Augustana, 83-76
#14243East Texas Baptist8-1def. Sul Ross State, 82-54
#15221Mary Hardin-Baylor8-0def. #21 Texas-Dallas, 75-70
#16220Christopher Newport7-1def. North Carolina Wesleyan, 100-61
#17191Wartburg6-2def. Loras, 76-64; LOST to UW-Eau Claire, 67-72
#18162Emory and Henry7-2def. Ferrum, 87-28; LOST to T#28 Randolph-Macon, 62-65
#19148Gettysburg7-1def. McDaniel, 62-58
#20141SUNY Geneseo10-0def. SUNY Potsdam, 82-43; def. Plattsburgh State, 82-65
#21129Texas-Dallas6-2def. Concordia (Texas), 70-59; LOST to #15 Mary Hardin-Baylor, 70-75
#22128UW-Whitewater4-3LOST to Coe, 63-68
#23126DePauw6-2def. Wittenberg, 61-52; def. Oberlin, 66-37
#24125Baldwin Wallace7-0def. Case Western Reserve, 82-71
#2555UW-Oshkosh7-0def. Finlandia, 70-27; def. #33 Wheaton (Ill.), 57-48


Others receiving votes
Rank   Pts   TeamW-L   Results
#2651Rochester Tech7-1def. Nazareth, 67-61; LOST to (n) St. John Fisher, 61-68 OT
#2748Austin5-1IDLE
T#2824Marymount7-3LOST to Stevenson, 63-76; def. Mary Washington, 59-43
T#2824Randolph-Macon9-1def. Mary Washington, 65-60; def. St. Mary's (Md.), 80-48; def. #18 Emory and Henry, 65-62
T#3021Mount Union7-1LOST to John Carroll, 58-61; def. Wilmington, 76-66
T#3021Oglethorpe7-1def. Berry, 52-39
#3218Washington U.4-3def. Greenville, 71-55; LOST to Westminster (Mo.), 68-70
#3316Wheaton (Ill.)5-3def. Carthage, 80-67; LOST to #25 UW-Oshkosh, 48-57
#3414Montclair State7-2def. New Jersey City, 77-44; LOST to TCNJ, 42-58
#3512ithaca5-1def. Stevens, 71-60
T#3611Chapman6-1LOST to Cal Lutheran, 55-58; def. Redlands, 69-62
T#3611Millsaps7-1IDLE
T#3611Trinity (Conn.)8-0def. Coast Guard, 80-44; def. Johnson and Wales, 71-38; def. Connecticut College, 77-66
#399Hardin-Simmons       7-3LOST to University of the Ozarks, 72-80; LOST to Texas-Tyler, 64-78
T#408Middlebury8-0def. Plattsburgh State, 80-70; def. Skidmore, 71-45
T#408Trinity (Texas)4-1IDLE
T#426Muhlenberg8-0def. Haverford, 59-50; def. Swarthmore, 55-33
T#426Whitman6-3def. Colorado College, 99-60; LOST to #4 Thomas More, 63-80
#442DeSales7-2def. FDU-Florham, 67-46; def. King's, 84-43
T#451Emory6-2def. Birmingham-Southern, 69-31
T#451Mass-Dartmouth7-1LOST to #1 Bowdoin, 67-75; def. Keene State, 70-43
T#451Misericordia9-0def. Wilkes, 78-54; def. FDU-Florham, 65-48
T#451UW-La Crosse8-0def. Dubuque, 77-49

Dave 'd-mac' McHugh



There is plenty to distract this time of the season. Finals, holidays, even weather. Staying focused on each practice and game is just a bit more challenging in December.

Sunday on Hoopsville, we chat about those distractions with teams that are helping shake up not only their conferences, but also the national landscape. However, how do they stay focused? Especially when expectations start to increase each game. Also, how do they take advantage of opponents possibly losing focus?

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- Marlon Sears, Montclair State men's coach
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Dave 'd-mac' McHugh

Quote from: Rofrog on December 08, 2018, 12:13:51 AM
Dave serious what would it take for Scranton to be ranked in your eyes you have been giving statements that Scranton ls not deserving of such rankings.My point iScranton could beat Nebraska Wesleyan and you still wouldn't rank them.To start 3 freshman and be 7-0 is pretty damn good and by the way they can play!

First off... take it to the men's boards.

Second off ... you are full of it. I've ranked Scranton too many times in my voting career to count. If they beat Nebraska Wesleyan... seriously? You are assuming something like that? Or do you just enjoy trying to be the martyr. Give me a break.
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gordonmann

QuoteUntil then, the poll put out by Stanky's Bar & Grill in lower Nanticoke might have Kings listed as number 3 in the nation...who cares?

Is that the home base for the renown Stanky and the Coal Miners? I travel to Wilkes-Barre for work so I know who that is! :)

ronk

 In the latest top 25 through games of Dec 9, Scranton's record should be 6-0, not 7-0.

Dave 'd-mac' McHugh

Quote from: ronk on December 11, 2018, 10:47:52 AM
In the latest top 25 through games of Dec 9, Scranton's record should be 6-0, not 7-0.

No ... 6-0. Their game against York was on 12/10.

The men were 7-0 through Dec. 9.
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ronk

Quote from: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on December 12, 2018, 09:42:24 PM
Quote from: ronk on December 11, 2018, 10:47:52 AM
In the latest top 25 through games of Dec 9, Scranton's record should be 6-0, not 7-0.

No ... 6-0. Their game against York was on 12/10.

The men were 7-0 through Dec. 9.

That's what I wrote. See above.

ronk

Capital(undefeated at the beginning of the week) has a tough schedule this week: #19 Baldwin-Wallace @ home(73-61 loss), #31 Ithaca on a neutral court (Friday), and #6 Scranton(away) on Sunday.

Dave 'd-mac' McHugh

Quote from: ronk on December 12, 2018, 10:13:14 PM
Quote from: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on December 12, 2018, 09:42:24 PM
Quote from: ronk on December 11, 2018, 10:47:52 AM
In the latest top 25 through games of Dec 9, Scranton's record should be 6-0, not 7-0.

No ... 6-0. Their game against York was on 12/10.

The men were 7-0 through Dec. 9.

That's what I wrote. See above.

Ah! I read it backwards ... like fifteen times! I seriously tried to figure out what you were saying and read it like fifteen times. I guess the glasses or the head need to be examined.

Sorry for the confusion.
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ronk

One might think that I wouldn't have mentioned it unless Scranton was negatively affected, but my primary feeling is that rankings(top 25, regionals later, pool C, etc.) should be done with correct data.

Dave 'd-mac' McHugh

Quote from: ronk on December 12, 2018, 11:14:27 PM
One might think that I wouldn't have mentioned it unless Scranton was negatively affected, but my primary feeling is that rankings(top 25, regionals later, pool C, etc.) should be done with correct data.

The data sent to voters is accurate ... it probably was a typo when put into this week's slot. That's all.
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Darryl Nester

#1946
How They Fared (So Far)
As usual, a light week of action as many schools are ending their fall semesters.

Top 25

Rank   Pts   TeamW-L   Results
#1612Bowdoin8-0IDLE
#2579Hope6-012/14 vs. Finlandia; 12/15 vs. TBD
#3575St. Thomas8-0def. Concordia-Moorhead, 73-49; 12/16 vs. #36 Trinity (Texas)
#4566Thomas More11-012/14 vs. #19 Baldwin Wallace; 12/15 vs. Hope/Finlandia
#5518Tufts9-0def. Emerson, 88-42
#6476Scranton7-0def. York (Pa.), 89-46; 12/15 vs. #31 Ithaca; 12/16 vs. Capital
#7475Amherst6-1IDLE
#8470Chicago6-112/16 vs. Carthage
#9414George Fox7-1def. Warner Pacific, 78-52
#10360Messiah10-1def. Lycoming, 69-58; 12/15 vs. Albright
#11331Trine8-1IDLE
#12325St. Joseph's (Maine)9-012/13 vs. Maine-Farmington
#13310Mary Hardin-Baylor8-012/15 vs. University of the Ozarks
#14293Illinois Wesleyan8-212/15 vs. Carroll
#15255East Texas Baptist9-1def. Howard Payne, 81-49; 12/13 vs. LeTourneau
#16235Christopher Newport7-112/16 vs. William Peace
#17194SUNY Geneseo10-0IDLE
#18185Gettysburg7-1IDLE
#19178Baldwin Wallace8-0def. Capital, 73-61; 12/14 vs. #4 Thomas More; 12/15 vs. TBA; 12/15 vs. TBA
#20148DePauw6-2IDLE
#21134UW-Oshkosh7-0IDLE
#2288Texas-Dallas6-2IDLE
#2380Randolph-Macon9-1IDLE
#2472Wartburg6-2IDLE
#2556Emory and Henry7-2IDLE


Others receiving votes
Rank   Pts   TeamW-L   Results
#2633Austin5-112/13 vs. Hardin-Simmons; 12/15 vs. Hendrix
#2727Oglethorpe7-112/16 vs. Guilford
#2823UW-Whitewater5-3def. MSOE, 48-42
#2919Trinity (Conn.)8-0IDLE
#3016Millsaps7-1IDLE
#3115Ithaca6-1def. Rochester, 59-53; 12/14 vs. Capital; 12/15 vs. #6 Scranton
#3213Middlebury8-0IDLE
#3311Muhlenberg8-012/15 vs. Moravian
#348Rochester Tech7-1IDLE
#357Mass-Dartmouth8-1def. Johnson and Wales, 81-58
#366Trinity (Texas)4-112/15 vs. Augsburg; 12/16 vs. #3 St. Thomas
#375DeSales7-2IDLE
T#384UW-La Crosse9-0def. Marian, 87-38
T#384Washington U.5-3def. Fontbonne, 94-66; 12/16 vs. Loras
T#402Misericordia9-0IDLE
T#402Wheaton (Ill.)6-3def. Trinity Christian, 79-53; 12/15 vs. North Central (Ill.)
#421Emory7-2def. Agnes Scott, 86-47

Dave 'd-mac' McHugh



We've entered the part of the season when teams are either off the court for an extended period of time or they are still practicing and playing occasional games leading up to a break around Christmas. It is an odd time of the season. You look away one night and forget there is a big game happening. You try and focus in another night only to realize there isn't much to watch (if anything).

Some schools are still wrapping up finals as well!

These few weeks can also be challenging to teams. Staying fresh even though there could be up to a month between games. Staying focused, even though academics are a much higher priority that what's happening on the court. And staying healthy despite travel to different parts of the country or back home to be with family.

Thursday night on Hoopsville, Dave tries to work his way through the distractions to talk to a few teams all of which still have games this December and seem to be off to pretty good starts. We'll even hear from a student-athlete's perspective. How are finals, the holidays, and travel affecting these programs?

Hoopsville is presented by D3hoops.com and airs from the WBCA/NABC Studio. Thursday's episode will air live starting at 7:00 pm ET right here: http://bit.ly/2rA87rl (and via Facebook Live simulcast).

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Guests Schedule (order subject to change):
- Charles Katsiaficas, Pomona-Pitzer men's coach
- Ron Rohn, Muhlenberg women's coach
- Madison Temple, No. 4 Thomas More Senior guard
- Matt Lewis, No. 6 UW-Oshkosh men's interim coach

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Darryl Nester

How They Fared (Complete)

Top 25

Rank   Pts   TeamW-L   Results
#1612Bowdoin8-0IDLE
#2579Hope7-1def. Finlandia, 92-37; LOST to #4 Thomas More, 61-81
#3575St. Thomas9-0def. Concordia-Moorhead, 73-49; def. #36 Trinity (Texas), 92-50
#4566Thomas More13-0def. (n) #19 Baldwin Wallace, 80-56; def. #2 Hope, 81-61
#5518Tufts9-0def. Emerson, 88-42
#6476Scranton9-0def. York (Pa.), 89-46; def. #31 Ithaca, 65-53; def. Capital, 62-52
#7475Amherst6-1IDLE
#8470Chicago7-1def. Carthage, 68-59
#9414George Fox7-1def. Warner Pacific, 78-52
#10360Messiah11-1def. Lycoming, 69-58; def. Albright, 66-44
#11331Trine8-1IDLE
#12325St. Joseph's (Maine)10-0def. Maine-Farmington, 92-48
#13310Mary Hardin-Baylor9-0def. University of the Ozarks, 82-57
#14293Illinois Wesleyan9-2def. Carroll, 86-77
#15255East Texas Baptist10-1def. Howard Payne, 81-49; def. LeTourneau, 75-44
#16235Christopher Newport8-1def. William Peace, 91-68
#17194SUNY Geneseo10-0IDLE
#18185Gettysburg7-1IDLE
#19178Baldwin Wallace9-1def. Capital, 73-61; LOST to (n) #4 Thomas More, 56-80; def. (n) Finlandia, 73-42
#20148DePauw6-2IDLE
#21134UW-Oshkosh7-0IDLE
#2288Texas-Dallas6-2IDLE
#2380Randolph-Macon9-1IDLE
#2472Wartburg6-2IDLE
#2556Emory and Henry7-2IDLE


Others receiving votes
Rank   Pts   TeamW-L   Results
#2633Austin7-1def. Hardin-Simmons, 62-48; def. Hendrix, 87-46
#2727Oglethorpe8-1def. Guilford, 47-42
#2823UW-Whitewater5-3def. MSOE, 48-42
#2919Trinity (Conn.)8-0IDLE
#3016Millsaps7-1IDLE
#3115Ithaca7-2def. Rochester, 59-53; def. (n) Capital, 86-53; LOST to #6 Scranton, 53-65
#3213Middlebury8-0IDLE
#3311Muhlenberg9-0def. Moravian, 57-53
#348Rochester Tech7-1IDLE
#357Mass-Dartmouth8-1def. Johnson and Wales, 81-58
#366Trinity (Texas)5-2def. Augsburg, 59-55; LOST to #3 St. Thomas, 50-92
#375DeSales7-2IDLE
T#384UW-La Crosse9-0def. Marian, 87-38
T#384Washington U.5-4def. Fontbonne, 94-66; LOST to Loras, 46-57
T#402Misericordia9-0IDLE
T#402Wheaton (Ill.)7-3def. Trinity Christian, 79-53; def. North Central (Ill.), 78-54
#421Emory7-2def. Agnes Scott, 86-47

ronk

After watching the 1st half of Thomas More's victory @ #2 Hope yesterday, I'd rank Thomas More #1, ahead of Bowdoin.