Top 25 discussion

[Darryl Nester]

How They Fared (So Far)
Women's games:

Top 25

Rank	Pts	Team	W-L	Results
#1	621	Tufts	20-0	02/07 vs. Trinity (Conn.); 02/08 vs. Connecticut College
#2	596	Hope	20-0	02/08 at Adrian
#3	575	Bowdoin	20-1	02/07 at #9 Amherst; 02/08 at Hamilton
#4	547	DePauw	19-1	02/07 at Allegheny; 02/08 at Hiram
#5	502	Bethel	20-0	def. Concordia-Moorhead, 82-57; 02/08 at St. Mary's (Minn.)
#6	472	UW-Whitewater	18-2	won at UW-Stevens Point, 59-41; 02/08 vs. UW-River Falls
#7	426	Transylvania	19-1	won at Earlham, 75-42; 02/08 vs. Rose-Hulman
#8	424	Whitman	17-2	02/07 at Willamette; 02/08 at Lewis and Clark
#9	417	Amherst	17-3	02/07 vs. #3 Bowdoin; 02/08 vs. Colby
#10	405	Wartburg	18-3	won at Luther, 79-59
#11	357	Loras	19-2	won at Buena Vista, 70-50; 02/08 vs. Coe
#12	313	Baldwin Wallace	18-2	won at Ohio Northern, 57-47; 02/08 vs. Wilmington
#13	304	Chicago	15-3	02/07 at #32 Emory; 02/09 at Rochester
#14	276	Trinity (Texas)	16-3	02/07 vs. University of Dallas; 02/08 vs. #22 Austin
#15	249	Augsburg	17-3	won at St. Mary's (Minn.), 71-59; 02/08 vs. St. Benedict
#16	248	Oglethorpe	21-1	02/07 vs. Sewanee; 02/09 vs. Centre
#17	243	Scranton	17-3	won at Susquehanna, 62-61; 02/08 vs. T#29 Catholic
#18	186	Mary Hardin-Baylor	15-4	02/06 vs. Sul Ross State; 02/08 vs. Howard Payne
#19	161	Gettysburg	18-1	02/06 at Ursinus; 02/08 vs. Haverford
#20	154	St. Thomas	16-4	won at Hamline, 65-57; 02/08 vs. Concordia-Moorhead
#21	153	George Fox	16-4	def. Pacific, 59-54; 02/07 vs. Pacific Lutheran
#22	122	Austin	17-2	02/07 at Schreiner; 02/08 at #14 Trinity (Texas)
#23	88	UW-La Crosse	15-5	def. UW-Platteville, 76-50; 02/08 at UW-Oshkosh
#24	67	Albright	18-2	LOST at Stevenson, 53-55; 02/08 vs. Lebanon Valley
#25	64	Texas-Dallas	15-4	02/06 vs. LeTourneau; 02/08 vs. T#29 East Texas Baptist

Others receiving votes

Rank	Pts	Team	W-L	Results
#26	59	John Carroll	18-2	won at Heidelberg, 61-42; 02/08 vs. Capital
T#27	16	DeSales	16-4	won at FDU-Florham, 60-53; 02/08 vs. Wilkes
T#27	16	Messiah	17-4	won at Hood, 65-37; 02/07 vs. Widener
T#29	13	Catholic	17-3	won at Elizabethtown, 94-59; 02/08 at #17 Scranton
T#29	13	East Texas Baptist	15-4	02/06 at University of the Ozarks; 02/08 at #25 Texas-Dallas
#31	12	Trine	17-4	def. Alma, 71-33
#32	11	Emory	14-4	02/07 vs. #13 Chicago; 02/09 vs. Washington U.
#33	7	Hardin-Simmons	15-4	02/06 vs. Louisiana College; 02/08 vs. Belhaven
#34	4	Benedictine	18-2	def. Wisconsin Lutheran, 59-56 OT; 02/08 at Rockford
#35	2	Albion	17-4	won at Olivet, 78-63; 02/08 at Kalamazoo
T#36	1	Misericordia	18-2	won at Delaware Valley, 65-57; 02/08 vs. Stevens
T#36	1	Montclair State	17-4	def. New Jersey City, 87-40; 02/08 at Rowan

[Ralph Turner]

How They Fared (So Far)
Women's games:

Top 25

Rank	Pts	Team	W-L	Results
#1	621	Tufts	20-0	02/07 vs. Trinity (Conn.); 02/08 vs. Connecticut College
#2	596	Hope	20-0	02/08 at Adrian
#3	575	Bowdoin	20-1	02/07 at #9 Amherst; 02/08 at Hamilton
#4	547	DePauw	19-1	02/07 at Allegheny; 02/08 at Hiram
#5	502	Bethel	20-0	def. Concordia-Moorhead, 82-57; 02/08 at St. Mary's (Minn.)
#6	472	UW-Whitewater	18-2	won at UW-Stevens Point, 59-41; 02/08 vs. UW-River Falls
#7	426	Transylvania	19-1	won at Earlham, 75-42; 02/08 vs. Rose-Hulman
#8	424	Whitman	17-2	02/07 at Willamette; 02/08 at Lewis and Clark
#9	417	Amherst	17-3	02/07 vs. #3 Bowdoin; 02/08 vs. Colby
#10	405	Wartburg	18-3	won at Luther, 79-59
#11	357	Loras	19-2	won at Buena Vista, 70-50; 02/08 vs. Coe
#12	313	Baldwin Wallace	18-2	won at Ohio Northern, 57-47; 02/08 vs. Wilmington
#13	304	Chicago	15-3	02/07 at #32 Emory; 02/09 at Rochester
#14	276	Trinity (Texas)	16-3	02/07 vs. University of Dallas; 02/08 vs. #22 Austin
#15	249	Augsburg	17-3	won at St. Mary's (Minn.), 71-59; 02/08 vs. St. Benedict
#16	248	Oglethorpe	21-1	02/07 vs. Sewanee; 02/09 vs. Centre
#17	243	Scranton	17-3	won at Susquehanna, 62-61; 02/08 vs. T#29 Catholic
#18	186	Mary Hardin-Baylor	15-4	02/06 vs. Sul Ross State; 02/08 vs. Howard Payne
#19	161	Gettysburg	18-1	02/06 at Ursinus; 02/08 vs. Haverford
#20	154	St. Thomas	16-4	won at Hamline, 65-57; 02/08 vs. Concordia-Moorhead
#21	153	George Fox	16-4	def. Pacific, 59-54; 02/07 vs. Pacific Lutheran
#22	122	Austin	17-2	02/07 at Schreiner; 02/08 at #14 Trinity (Texas)
#23	88	UW-La Crosse	15-5	def. UW-Platteville, 76-50; 02/08 at UW-Oshkosh
#24	67	Albright	18-2	LOST at Stevenson, 53-55; 02/08 vs. Lebanon Valley
#25	64	Texas-Dallas	15-4	02/06 vs. LeTourneau; 02/08 vs. T#29 East Texas Baptist

Others receiving votes

Rank	Pts	Team	W-L	Results
#26	59	John Carroll	18-2	won at Heidelberg, 61-42; 02/08 vs. Capital
T#27	16	DeSales	16-4	won at FDU-Florham, 60-53; 02/08 vs. Wilkes
T#27	16	Messiah	17-4	won at Hood, 65-37; 02/07 vs. Widener
T#29	13	Catholic	17-3	won at Elizabethtown, 94-59; 02/08 at #17 Scranton
T#29	13	East Texas Baptist	15-4	02/06 at University of the Ozarks; 02/08 at #25 Texas-Dallas
#31	12	Trine	17-4	def. Alma, 71-33
#32	11	Emory	14-4	02/07 vs. #13 Chicago; 02/09 vs. Washington U.
#33	7	Hardin-Simmons	15-4	02/06 vs. Louisiana College; 02/08 vs. Belhaven
#34	4	Benedictine	18-2	def. Wisconsin Lutheran, 59-56 OT; 02/08 at Rockford
#35	2	Albion	17-4	won at Olivet, 78-63; 02/08 at Kalamazoo
T#36	1	Misericordia	18-2	won at Delaware Valley, 65-57; 02/08 vs. Stevens
T#36	1	Montclair State	17-4	def. New Jersey City, 87-40; 02/08 at Rowan

After 1200 of the most insightful posts in the history of these boards, I am grateful to give you your 500th "applaud".

[Mr. Ypsi]

WOW!!  20-0 Bethel goes to 2-18 St. Mary's and LOSES!  Upset of the season?

[Pat Coleman]

WOW!!  20-0 Bethel goes to 2-18 St. Mary's and LOSES!  Upset of the season?

We agreed with that statement enough to reference it in our daily recap:
https://www.d3hoops.com/notables/2020/02/wrapup-women-0208

[Mr. Ypsi]

WOW!!  20-0 Bethel goes to 2-18 St. Mary's and LOSES!  Upset of the season?

We agreed with that statement enough to reference it in our daily recap:
https://www.d3hoops.com/notables/2020/02/wrapup-women-0208

Yeah, that article brought about my post!  I just wondered if other posters thought there were any other upsets that rivaled (or even overshadowed) that one.

[CCD3Basketball]

Not this year, that's for sure

Definitely going to shake my poll up this week, along with all my other top 25 losses that I have to sort out. What a week.

[Dave 'd-mac' McHugh]

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[Darryl Nester]

How They Fared (Complete)

Top 25

Rank	Pts	Team	W-L	Results
#1	621	Tufts	22-0	def. Trinity (Conn.), 77-61; def. Connecticut College, 78-59
#2	596	Hope	21-0	won at Adrian, 96-28
#3	575	Bowdoin	21-2	LOST at #9 Amherst, 46-59; won at Hamilton, 89-74
#4	547	DePauw	21-1	won at Allegheny, 73-69 OT; won at Hiram, 65-62
#5	502	Bethel	20-1	def. Concordia-Moorhead, 82-57; LOST at St. Mary's (Minn.), 69-77
#6	472	UW-Whitewater	19-2	won at UW-Stevens Point, 59-41; def. UW-River Falls, 71-45
#7	426	Transylvania	20-1	won at Earlham, 75-42; def. Rose-Hulman, 69-55
#8	424	Whitman	19-2	won at Willamette, 72-54; won at Lewis and Clark, 73-58
#9	417	Amherst	19-3	def. #3 Bowdoin, 59-46; def. Colby, 53-36
#10	405	Wartburg	18-3	won at Luther, 79-59
#11	357	Loras	20-2	won at Buena Vista, 70-50; def. Coe, 74-53
#12	313	Baldwin Wallace	19-2	won at Ohio Northern, 57-47; def. Wilmington, 74-55
#13	304	Chicago	15-5	LOST at #32 Emory, 39-51; LOST at Rochester, 75-81
#14	276	Trinity (Texas)	18-3	def. University of Dallas, 94-36; def. #22 Austin, 87-79
#15	249	Augsburg	18-3	won at St. Mary's (Minn.), 71-59; def. St. Benedict, 62-54
#16	248	Oglethorpe	23-1	def. Sewanee, 81-51; def. Centre, 64-54
#17	243	Scranton	18-3	won at Susquehanna, 62-61; def. T#29 Catholic, 65-52
#18	186	Mary Hardin-Baylor	17-4	def. Sul Ross State, 68-49; def. Howard Payne, 112-70
#19	161	Gettysburg	19-2	won at Ursinus, 68-59; LOST to Haverford, 51-54
#20	154	St. Thomas	17-4	won at Hamline, 65-57; def. Concordia-Moorhead, 79-53
#21	153	George Fox	17-4	def. Pacific, 59-54; def. Pacific Lutheran, 59-25
#22	122	Austin	18-3	won at Schreiner, 77-62; LOST at #14 Trinity (Texas), 79-87
#23	88	UW-La Crosse	15-6	def. UW-Platteville, 76-50; LOST at UW-Oshkosh, 76-85
#24	67	Albright	19-2	LOST at Stevenson, 53-55; def. Lebanon Valley, 76-51
#25	64	Texas-Dallas	17-4	def. LeTourneau, 67-63; def. T#29 East Texas Baptist, 70-52

Others receiving votes

Rank	Pts	Team	W-L	Results
#26	59	John Carroll	19-2	won at Heidelberg, 61-42; def. Capital, 79-52
T#27	16	DeSales	17-4	won at FDU-Florham, 60-53; def. Wilkes, 90-34
T#27	16	Messiah	18-4	won at Hood, 65-37; def. Widener, 69-53
T#29	13	Catholic	17-4	won at Elizabethtown, 94-59; LOST at #17 Scranton, 52-65
T#29	13	East Texas Baptist	16-5	won at University of the Ozarks, 59-48; LOST at #25 Texas-Dallas, 52-70
#31	12	Trine	17-4	def. Alma, 71-33
#32	11	Emory	15-5	def. #13 Chicago, 51-39; LOST to Washington U., 61-72
#33	7	Hardin-Simmons	17-4	def. Louisiana College, 97-62; def. Belhaven, 92-66
#34	4	Benedictine	19-2	def. Wisconsin Lutheran, 59-56 OT; won at Rockford, 82-53
#35	2	Albion	18-4	won at Olivet, 78-63; won at Kalamazoo, 80-47
T#36	1	Misericordia	19-2	won at Delaware Valley, 65-57; def. Stevens, 71-64
T#36	1	Montclair State	17-5	def. New Jersey City, 87-40; LOST at Rowan, 65-67

How They Fared (So Far)

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After 1200 of the most insightful posts in the history of these boards, I am grateful to give you your 500th "applaud".

Thanks, Ralph!

[Baldini]

It will be interesting to see how much the Amherst lose hurts Bowdoin, guessing it is not a big drop. On the other hand the Bethel lose to St. Mary's and Chicago's tough week may lead to bigger tumbles down the rankings.

[deiscanton]

There is a possibility that no UAA women's basketball team will be in the top 25  this week when the D3hoops.com poll comes out this evening.  The WBCA may still keep Chicago ranked on Tuesday, however.  We will see what happens.

As former NYU women's basketball head coach Janice Quinn said about 20 years ago-- the NCAA regional rankings are the ones that count.  Starting on Wednesday, we will start to get a rough outlook of the potential field of 64.

[jekelish]

I'm extremely curious to see how far Bethel drops, given not just that they lost, but WHO they lost to. Do they drop to the back half of the teens? All the way to the 20s? I could see any possible outcome after that one.

[scottiedawg]

I'm extremely curious to see how far Bethel drops, given not just that they lost, but WHO they lost to. Do they drop to the back half of the teens? All the way to the 20s? I could see any possible outcome after that one.

Bad loss for sure, AND late in the year. That said, 1 loss Bethel's resume still looks very good. I'd easily argue better than Transylvania. Maybe Whitewater and Amherst pass Bethel?

[scottiedawg]

It will be interesting to see how much the Amherst lose hurts Bowdoin, guessing it is not a big drop.

Agreed. Bowdoin was +28 on DePauw, +73 on Bethel, +103 on Whitewater.  Road, conference loss to #9 ranked team?? I'd be surprised if Bowdoin loses more than ~100 votes.

[gordonmann]

Whatever happens to Bethel in this week's poll is going to be a distant memory in the next 14 days. They play St. Thomas, Gustavus and Augsburg in their next three games.

[scottiedawg]

Whatever happens to Bethel in this week's poll is going to be a distant memory in the next 14 days. They play St. Thomas, Gustavus and Augsburg in their next three games.

Excellent point. Everyone will learn a lot.

Whitewater and Whitman also have tough closes to the regular season.