Top 25 discussion

[Dave 'd-mac' McHugh]

Something people don't realize, I think, is if we expanded to more teams to vote on ... it does NOT guarantee those who have the 26th, 27th, etc. amount of points would enter the "Top 30." Voters with five more teams to vote may choose other teams than those receiving votes and those who are currently on the outside ... still maybe later.

So there is a significance that the team with 26th amount of votes isn't 26th because we don't know how voters would treat them if there was, say, 30 spots to vote. They may still get the same votes from those currently voting for them and no votes from anyone else - choosing other teams that would have a significant impact on their point totals.

[scottiedawg]

Yep, I agree with what you and Ryan are saying.

Would it also be correct to say that any team with < 25 VOTES received could end up ranked differently if > 25 spots were ranked by voters?  So it's not really about 26th most 'vote points' on down, it's about any team that didn't slotted by each of the 25 voters?

[Dave 'd-mac' McHugh]

Possibly if I am reading what you are saying right ... but it isn't that often teams have less than 25 votes and make the Top 25 (I think).

[scottiedawg]

even if the voters remain anonymous it probably invites more drama than it's worth, but I would love to see the vote breakdowns for every team that received votes.

[scottiedawg]

Possibly if I am reading what you are saying right ... but it isn't that often teams have less than 25 votes and make the Top 25 (I think).

I would imagine it's really common? ("really common" meaning most of the teams ranked ~20th-25th received < 25 votes).

[Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan)]

even if the voters remain anonymous it probably invites more drama than it's worth, but I would love to see the vote breakdowns for every team that received votes.

I'm not sure how detailed it is, but I think Pat provides more detailed Top 25 breakdowns on Patreon.

[Darryl Nester]

How They Fared (So Far)

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[Darryl Nester]

How They Fared (Complete)

Top 25

Rank	Pts	Team	W-L	Results
#1	615	Hope	7-0	won at #15 Calvin, 62-56; def. Wittenberg, 86-64
#2	582	New York University	7-0	won at Brooklyn, 87-49; def. Connecticut College, 91-27
#3	573	Transylvania	6-0	def. Franklin, 92-46; won at Rose-Hulman, 74-47
#4	548	Trinity (Texas)	9-0	won at Centenary (La.), 100-42; won at St. Thomas (Texas), 82-40
#5	528	Christopher Newport	8-0	won at Bridgewater (Va.), 78-50; won at Greensboro, 91-73
#6	485	Smith	6-1	def. Eastern Connecticut, 66-55; LOST at Framingham State, 74-78
#7	455	Amherst	5-0	def. Emmanuel, 58-53; won at #34 New Jersey City, 76-68
#8	411	Scranton	7-0	def. #14 Ithaca, 74-53; def. Goucher, 86-40
#9	406	UW-Whitewater	6-2	won at #26 UW-La Crosse, 58-53; LOST to UW-River Falls, 64-67
#10	399	Baldwin Wallace	7-0	def. Heidelberg, 54-41; def. Wilmington, 67-58
#11	391	Tufts	6-1	LOST at Emory, 55-70; won at Piedmont, 79-78
#12	328	UW-Eau Claire	8-1	def. UW-River Falls, 74-71; def. #26 UW-La Crosse, 68-56
#13	289	Mary Hardin-Baylor	4-0	won at Schreiner, 64-61; won at Concordia (Texas), 78-57
#14	269	Ithaca	6-1	LOST at #8 Scranton, 53-74; def. Vassar, 69-31; def. Bard, 66-46
#15	207	Calvin	5-2	LOST to #1 Hope, 56-62; LOST at #20 Trine, 45-60
#16	202	Springfield	6-1	def. Middlebury, 65-53
#17	191	Babson	6-0	won at Brandeis, 85-56; def. (n) Bridgewater State, 78-56; won at Williams, 59-56
#18	187	Rochester	6-1	def. Keuka, 78-34; LOST at Hamilton, 75-80
#19	179	UW-Oshkosh	6-2	LOST to UW-Platteville, 35-60; LOST at UW-Stout, 58-66
#20	161	Trine	5-2	won at Adrian, 66-54; def. #15 Calvin, 60-45
#21	132	Whitman	6-2	won at Pacific Lutheran, 80-47; LOST at #27 Puget Sound, 63-78
#22	99	UC Santa Cruz	7-1	LOST at Santa Clara, 30-74
#23	92	DeSales	7-0	def. #25 Messiah, 61-35; def. King's, 77-35; won at FDU-Florham, 113-32
#24	84	Hardin-Simmons	5-2	def. LeTourneau, 81-52; def. #29 East Texas Baptist, 81-65
#25	40	Messiah	5-2	LOST at #23 DeSales, 35-61; def. York (Pa.), 69-39; won at Widener, 55-43

Others receiving votes

Rank	Pts	Team	W-L	Results
#26	38	UW-La Crosse	8-2	LOST to #9 UW-Whitewater, 53-58; LOST at #12 UW-Eau Claire, 56-68
#27	35	Puget Sound	6-1	def. Whitworth, 89-77; def. #21 Whitman, 78-63
#28	32	Marietta	4-2	def. Otterbein, 79-63; LOST at T#41 Ohio Northern, 43-54
#29	31	East Texas Baptist	5-2	won at McMurry, 76-51; LOST at #24 Hardin-Simmons, 65-81
#30	26	Illinois Wesleyan	6-3	def. Elmhurst, 100-58; LOST at Carroll, 57-75
#31	18	Trinity (Conn.)	6-1	won at Coast Guard, 67-45; def. (n) Westfield State, 83-67; won at Norwich, 62-39
#32	17	Cortland	6-1	def. SUNY Geneseo, 82-61; won at Fredonia, 102-45; won at Brockport, 71-41
#33	14	Gustavus Adolphus	5-1	def. Macalester, 89-40
#34	13	New Jersey City	1-5	LOST at William Paterson, 51-71; LOST to TCNJ, 39-43; LOST to #7 Amherst, 68-76
#35	11	Millikin	5-3	won at North Park, 59-39; won at T#41 Augustana, 69-54
T#36	10	St. John Fisher	6-2	def. Alfred, 58-44; def. Elmira, 116-23
T#36	10	Washington and Jefferson	7-1	won at Chatham, 60-50; def. St. Vincent, 66-51
T#38	5	Catholic	7-1	won at Eastern, 56-44; won at Moravian, 45-44
T#38	5	Chicago	8-0	won at Eureka, 71-48; won at Wheaton (Ill.), 56-37
#40	3	Wartburg	5-2	won at Luther, 73-53; won at Westminster (Mo.), 81-66
T#41	1	Augustana	6-2	def. Wheaton (Ill.), 65-63 OT; LOST to #35 Millikin, 54-69
T#41	1	Mary Washington	8-1	def. Meredith, 68-45; def. Southern Virginia, 77-47; LOST at Marymount, 53-63
T#41	1	Ohio Northern	5-1	def. #28 Marietta, 54-43
T#41	1	Stevens	7-1	won at Delaware Valley, 68-43; def. Misericordia, 67-60

[scottiedawg]

Week 2, Biggest Vote Gainers
DeSales: +141 (win over Messiah)
Babson: +130 (Williams, Bridgewater, Brandeis) [great week!]
Mary Hardin-Baylor: +80 (beat Schreiner and Concordia and we're moving them up much at all?)
UC Santa Cruz: +77 (no D3 results (which TBF voters aren't supposed to only consider D3 results))
Chicago: +67 (Wheaton)
Springfield: +65 (Middlebury)
Scranton: +58 (Ithaca)
UW-Eau Claire: +58 (LaCrosse, River Falls)
Puget Sound: +51 (Whitman, Whitworth)
Baldwin-Wallace: +46
Emory: +44
Trine: +30
Amherst: +25
Ohio Northern: +25
Framingham St.: +23
Bowdoin: +20
Catholic: +19
Marymount: +13
NYU: +9
Trinity TX: +9
UW-River Falls: +7
St. John Fisher: +6
Stevens: +5
Trinity CT: +2
UW-Stout: +2
Hope: +1
Hardin-Simmons: +1
Cortland St.: +1
Millikin: +1


Decliners
UW-Oshkosh: -159 (lost to Platteville and Stout)
Smith: -148 (lost to Framingham St., beat East Conn)
UW-Whitewater: -120 (lost to River Falls, beat LaCrosse)
Tufts: -103 (lost to Emory, beat Piedmont)
Calvin: -95 (lost to Hope and Trine)
Rochester: -91 (lost to Hamilton)
Whitman: -76 (lost to Puget Sound)
Ithaca: -60 (lost to Scranton, beat Vassar)
UW-LaCrosse: -38 (lost to Whitewater and Eau Claire)
E Tx Baptist: -30 (lost to HSU, beat McMurry)
IL Wesleyan: -26 (lost to Carroll)
Marietta: -25 (lost to ONU, beat Otterbein)
Messiah: -20 (lost to DeSales)
NJ City: -13
Gust Adolphus: -5 (beat Macalester) (weird to beat an average team but lose 36% of your vote points. I guess teams below them just had more impressive weeks and passed them)
Transylvania: -3
Wartburg: -2
Chris Newport: -1
Augustana IL: -1


Some points to make:
- I tried to only list results against a team above say Massey 140.
- I didn't list results for all, just the top gainers and decliners
- +40 vote points aren't equal across teams.  (e.g. Scranton's win over Ithaca is much more impressive than Springfield's win over Middlebury. But it can still make sense that the voters increased vote points for Springfield more in an absolute sense, because those vote points are kinda "cheaper" to accrue. Since nothing happens in a vacuum, for Scranton to move up, they have to take points from somewhere, and it's harder to take points from teams ranked 7,8,9 than from teams ranked 16,17,18.)

Teams that I think had the best body of results 11/28-12/4, in order:
Stout
Eau Claire
River Falls
Hope
Puget Sound
Emory
Hamline
Bowdoin
Millikin
Carroll
Trine
Hamilton
St. Benedict
Scranton
Whitewater
Babson

and teams that had the worst:
New Jersey City
Gettysburg
Rhodes
Salisbury
Wisconsin Lutheran
U Texas Dallas
Willamette
Oshkosh
St. Lawrence
St. Olaf

matches up extremely well with the voters.

A tad surprised Wartburg went from 3 vote points to 1, after 2 wins, 1 over Luther Iowa. But just like with Gustavus, easy to see how other teams had better weeks and jumped them.  And at that point in the ORVs, there's so little difference in voter sentiment between teams.

[Darryl Nester]

How They Fared (Complete)

Several games still in progress; I will update those scores this evening (probably sometime after 6:00)

Top 25

Rank	Pts	Team	W-L	Results
#1	616	Hope	9-0	def. Great Lakes Christian, 100-43; won at Kalamazoo, 98-42
#2	591	New York University	8-0	won at #13 Tufts, 74-54
#3	570	Transylvania	7-0	def. Bluffton, 63-45
#4	557	Trinity (Texas)	9-0	IDLE
#5	527	Christopher Newport	9-0	def. N.C. Wesleyan, 110-57
#6	480	Amherst	7-0	def. Wesleyan, 65-55; def. Lehman, 68-42
#7	469	Scranton	8-0	def. Misericordia, 64-46
#8	445	Baldwin Wallace	8-0	won at T#40 Marietta, 52-49
#9	386	UW-Eau Claire	9-2	won at Bethany Lutheran, 79-44; LOST at Loras, 79-88
#10	369	Mary Hardin-Baylor	5-1	won at LeTourneau, 73-37; LOST at T#44 East Texas Baptist, 59-66
#11	337	Smith	8-1	won at Williams, 67-60; won at Brooklyn, 88-78
#12	321	Babson	7-0	def. #29 Framingham State, 71-63
#13	288	Tufts	7-2	won at MIT, 86-74; LOST to #2 New York University, 54-74
#14	286	UW-Whitewater	7-2	def. Augustana, 92-64
#15	267	Springfield	8-1	won at Worcester State, 66-29; won at Emmanuel, 81-72
#16	233	DeSales	9-0	def. Wilkes, 57-36; def. Misericordia, 56-29
#17	209	Ithaca	6-2	LOST at #21 Rochester, 66-83
#18	191	Trine	6-2	def. Olivet, 81-34
#19	176	UC Santa Cruz	7-1	IDLE
#20	112	Calvin	6-2	def. St. Mary's (Ind.), 83-58
#21	96	Rochester	8-1	def. #17 Ithaca, 83-66; won at Brockport, 67-54
#22	86	Puget Sound	6-1	IDLE
#23	85	Hardin-Simmons	7-2	won at Howard Payne, 83-51; def. Sul Ross State, 71-63
#24	72	Chicago	8-0	IDLE
#25	56	Whitman	6-3	LOST to Eastern Oregon, 55-60

Others receiving votes

Rank	Pts	Team	W-L	Results
#26	44	Emory	7-1	12/05 vs. Oglethorpe canceled
#27	26	Ohio Northern	7-1	def. Wilmington, 57-52; won at Mount Union, 71-37
#28	24	Catholic	8-2	won at Gallaudet, 72-36; LOST to T#44 Mary Washington, 58-76
#29	23	Framingham State	8-2	LOST at #12 Babson, 63-71; def. Curry, 74-56; won at Regis (Mass.), 76-59
T#30	20	Bowdoin	7-1	def. Maine-Farmington, 88-26; won at Bates, 62-57
T#30	20	Messiah	7-2	def. Gettysburg, 53-43; won at Albright, 56-41
T#30	20	Trinity (Conn.)	9-1	def. Emmanuel, 60-45; won at Lasell, 68-51; def. Worcester State, 76-46
T#30	20	UW-Oshkosh	6-2	IDLE
#34	18	Cortland	8-1	won at Plattsburgh State, 70-39; won at SUNY Potsdam, 60-44
#35	16	St. John Fisher	7-2	won at Clarkson, 86-45
#36	13	Marymount	10-1	won at Salisbury, 78-60
#37	12	Millikin	7-3	def. DePauw, 70-42; def. Carthage, 56-41
#38	10	Washington and Jefferson	8-1	def. Allegheny, 57-40
#39	9	Gustavus Adolphus	7-1	won at St. Olaf, 71-61; def. Augsburg, 60-39
T#40	7	Marietta	5-3	def. Ohio Wesleyan, 72-65; LOST to #8 Baldwin Wallace, 49-52
T#40	7	UW-River Falls	8-2	def. Finlandia, 73-51; def. Eureka, 99-53
#42	6	Stevens	9-1	won at FDU-Florham, 88-35; def. Susquehanna, 71-38
#43	2	UW-Stout	7-1	won at Martin Luther, 84-51; won at Finlandia, 58-47
T#44	1	East Texas Baptist	7-2	def. Concordia (Texas), 51-45; def. #10 Mary Hardin-Baylor, 66-59
T#44	1	Mary Washington	9-1	won at #28 Catholic, 76-58
T#44	1	Wartburg	6-2	def. Simpson, 72-58

[scottiedawg]

# Week 3 Poll

## Biggest Vote Gainers
Team, Gain, (Notable Teams Beat)
Rochester: +111 (Ithaca)
DeSales: +73 (Misericordia)
Babson: +65 (Framingham St.)
Springfield: +59 (Emmanuel)
Puget Sound: +46 (no D3 results)
Chicago: +39 (no D3 results)
Smith: +36 (Williams)
ETBU: +35 (MHB)
Trine: +30 ()
Bowdoin: +20 (Bates)
Gustavys Adolphus: +16 (Augsburg, St. Olaf)
Ohio Northern: +12 (Wilimington, Mt. Union)
Baldwin-Wallace: +11 (Marietta)
UC Santa Cruz: +11
UW-Whitewater: +10 (Augustana)
Hardin-Simmons: +9 (Sul Ross)
Amherst: +8
Stevens: +6
NYU: +5
Christopher Newport: +4
Cortland St.: +4
UW-River Falls: +3
Marymount: +2
Washington & Jefferson: +2
Mary Washington: +1
Ohio Wesleyan: +1

## Biggest Vote Decliners
Mary Hardin-Baylor: -137 (loss @ ETBU)
Ithaca: -125 (loss @ Rochester)
UW-Eau Claire: -92 (loss @ Loras)
Tufts: -77 (loss v. NYU, win @ MIT)
Whitman: -40 (no D3 results)
Emory: -37 (no D3 results)
Catholic: -21 (loss v. Mary Washington)
Framingham St.: -21 (loss @ Babson)
St. John Fisher: -16 ()
Millikin: -12 (win v. DePauw, win v. Carthage)
Messiah: -11 (win v. Gettysburg, win v. Albright)
UW-Oshkosh: -10
Marietta: -7
Calvin: -5
Transylvania: -2
Trinity TX: -2
Hope: -1
Scranton: -1
UW-Stout: -1
Wartburg: -1

My most head scratching vote getters are Catholic, ETBU, Stevens, Messiah, BUT, you can definitely make cases for all to get slotted at 24th or 25th.

I understand why Augustana, UWSP, UWLC, IWU are not getting any top 25 votes. But I think they're all probably better than a handful of teams that have.  Splitting hairs here.

Excited to see Carnegie Mellon get into the UAA slate.

Wartburg and St. Benedict are a few others to watch.

[Darryl Nester]

How They Fared (So Far)

I am assuming that the next poll will come out on January 2.

Top 25

Rank	Pts	Team	W-L	Results
#1	615	Hope	9-1	LOST to #16 Trine, 64-76; 12/29 vs. Carnegie Mellon; 12/30 vs. TBA
#2	596	New York University	8-0	12/29 vs. Stockton; 12/30 vs. #25 Bowdoin
#3	568	Transylvania	9-0	def. Spalding, 77-43; won at John Carroll, 82-39; 12/19 at Manchester; 12/29 vs. Wisconsin Lutheran; 12/30 vs. Berea
#4	555	Trinity (Texas)	9-0	12/19 vs. #15 Mary Hardin-Baylor; 12/21 vs. #20 Puget Sound; 12/29 vs. Schreiner
#5	531	Christopher Newport	9-0	12/18 vs. Colorado College; 12/19 vs. #29 Cortland; 12/30 vs. Rowan
#6	488	Amherst	7-0	12/28 vs. Montclair State; 12/29 vs. Kenyon; 12/31 vs. Whittier; 01/01 at Chapman
#7	468	Scranton	8-0	12/19 vs. Wartburg; 12/20 vs. Rhodes; 12/29 vs. George Fox; 12/30 vs. TBA
#8	456	Baldwin Wallace	9-0	def. Otterbein, 62-45; 12/29 vs. Manchester; 12/30 vs. TBA; 12/30 vs. TBA
#9	386	Babson	7-0	12/20 vs. Loras; 12/21 vs. Hanover; 12/30 vs. Middlebury; 12/31 vs. Endicott
#10	373	Smith	8-1	12/30 vs. Bridgewater State; 12/31 vs. Mass-Dartmouth
#11	326	Springfield	9-1	def. Albertus Magnus, 79-65; 12/30 vs. #30 Trinity (Conn.); 12/31 vs. Wilkes
#12	306	DeSales	9-0	12/20 at Cabrini; 12/30 vs. St. Joseph (Conn.); 12/31 vs. TBD
#13	296	UW-Whitewater	7-3	LOST at #21 Chicago, 58-63; 12/20 at #19 UC Santa Cruz; 12/21 vs. Minnesota-Morris; 12/30 vs. Bethel
#14	294	UW-Eau Claire	9-2	12/29 vs. #16 Trine; 12/30 at DePauw
#15	232	Mary Hardin-Baylor	7-1	def. Howard Payne, 88-51; def. Sul Ross State, 71-61; 12/19 at #4 Trinity (Texas); 12/20 vs. #20 Puget Sound; 12/29 vs. Piedmont; 12/30 vs. #19 UC Santa Cruz
#16	221	Trine	7-2	won at #1 Hope, 76-64; 12/19 vs. North Park; 12/20 vs. Wartburg; 12/29 vs. #14 UW-Eau Claire; 12/30 vs. TBA
#17	211	Tufts	7-2	12/29 at T#33 Stevens; 12/30 vs. TBD; 01/01 at New Jersey City
#18	207	Rochester	9-1	won at Buffalo State, 71-56
#19	187	UC Santa Cruz	8-1	def. Linfield, 72-43; 12/18 vs. Cal Lutheran; 12/20 vs. #13 UW-Whitewater; 12/22 vs. Minnesota-Morris; 12/29 vs. #27 East Texas Baptist; 12/30 at #15 Mary Hardin-Baylor; 01/01 at Concordia (Texas)
#20	132	Puget Sound	8-1	def. (n) Redlands, 76-59; def. (n) Coast Guard, 94-74; 12/20 vs. #15 Mary Hardin-Baylor; 12/21 at #4 Trinity (Texas)
#21	111	Chicago	10-0	def. #13 UW-Whitewater, 63-58; won at Wisconsin Lutheran, 59-54; 12/30 vs. Knox
#22	107	Calvin	7-2	won at Olivet, 58-48; 12/20 vs. Cornerstone; 12/29 at Loras; 12/30 at Loras Tournament
#23	94	Hardin-Simmons	8-2	def. University of the Ozarks, 82-48; 12/19 vs. Texas-Dallas; 12/29 vs. Bates; 12/30 vs. SUNY Geneseo
#24	84	Ithaca	6-2	IDLE
#25	40	Bowdoin	7-1	12/29 vs. St. Joseph's (L.I.); 12/30 at #2 New York University

Others receiving votes

Rank	Pts	Team	W-L	Results
#26	38	Ohio Northern	8-1	def. Capital, 57-41; 12/29 vs. Denison; 12/30 vs. Bethany
#27	36	East Texas Baptist	8-2	won at LeTourneau, 75-51; 12/29 vs. #19 UC Santa Cruz; 12/29 vs. TBA; 12/30 vs. TBA; 12/30 vs. Piedmont
#28	25	Gustavus Adolphus	7-1	12/30 at Luther
#29	22	Cortland	8-1	12/19 vs. #5 Christopher Newport; 12/20 vs. Dickinson
#30	20	Trinity (Conn.)	9-1	12/30 at #11 Springfield; 12/31 vs. Skidmore
#31	16	Whitman	6-4	LOST at Central Wash., 52-79; 12/28 vs. Cal Lutheran
#32	15	Marymount	10-1	12/29 at Washington and Lee
T#33	12	Stevens	9-1	12/29 vs. #17 Tufts; 12/30 vs. TBD
T#33	12	Washington and Jefferson	9-1	won at Franciscan (Ohio), 63-58; 12/19 at Carnegie Mellon; 12/29 vs. York (Pa.)
T#35	10	UW-Oshkosh	6-2	12/19 vs. Randolph-Macon; 12/20 vs. Roanoke; 12/29 vs. Washington U.; 12/30 vs. Ripon
T#35	10	UW-River Falls	9-2	won at Bethany Lutheran, 66-55; 12/30 vs. Finlandia; 12/31 at UW-Superior
#37	9	Messiah	8-2	def. (n) Immaculata, 61-52; 12/18 vs. Westminster (Pa.)
#38	7	Emory	7-1	12/30 at Rhodes
#39	3	Catholic	8-2	12/19 vs. Gwynedd Mercy; 12/20 vs. Widener
T#40	2	Framingham State	8-2	12/29 vs. Carthage; 12/30 vs. Penn State-Behrend
T#40	2	Mary Washington	10-1	won at N.C. Wesleyan, 72-58; 12/29 at Johns Hopkins; 12/31 vs. Shenandoah
T#42	1	Ohio Wesleyan	4-4	12/20 vs. Mount Union; 12/29 vs. Otterbein; 12/30 vs. TBA
T#42	1	UW-Stout	9-1	won at Northwestern (Minn.), 83-45; won at Cornell, 64-46; 12/20 at Dominican; 12/29 vs. Ripon; 12/30 vs. Washington U.

[gordonmann]

We'll have one more poll before the holiday break that'll be released tomorrow.

Something to watch.

St. Thomas (Minn.) has made the most appearances in the Top 25 without ever being ranked No. 1. The Tommies appeared in our rankings 166 times before departing for Division I.

NYU has also never been ranked No. 1 in our poll and tomorrow the Violets will crop up in our rankings for the 166th time, tying St. Thomas. Instead of taking this almost-but-not-quite crown, the Violets may actually be No. 1.

If that happens, then Baldwin Wallace will have the most Top 25 appearances without a No. 1 position (146 times).

Franklin & Marshall has this distinction on the men's side with 150 appearances. The Diplomats highest ranking is No. 3.

[deiscanton]

We'll have one more poll before the holiday break that'll be released tomorrow.

Something to watch.

St. Thomas (Minn.) has made the most appearances in the Top 25 without ever being ranked No. 1. The Tommies appeared in our rankings 166 times before departing for Division I.

NYU has also never been ranked No. 1 in our poll and tomorrow the Violets will crop up in our rankings for the 166th time, tying St. Thomas. Instead of taking this almost-but-not-quite crown, the Violets may actually be No. 1.

If that happens, then Baldwin Wallace will have the most Top 25 appearances without a No. 1 position (146 times).

Franklin & Marshall has this distinction on the men's side with 150 appearances. The Diplomats highest ranking is No. 3.

Regarding NYU, the 2000-01 team made it to #1 in the WBCA poll (that season's polls are no longer archived by the WBCA) when Dari Magyar made her "Miracle in Manhattan" buzzer beating 3 point shot at the then Coles Sports Center to defeat #1 Wash U, 65-64 , handing Wash U their first UAA loss and second loss overall since the end of the 1997-98 season.  A few weeks earlier, Fontbonne had ended Wash U's 81 game winning streak.  NYU was ranked at #4 in the D3Hoops.com poll entering the rematch at Coles Center-- Wash U had beaten NYU 72-37 in St. Louis eariler that season. 

Although the WBCA ranked NYU at #1 and Wash U at #2 as a result of NYU's win over Wash U going into the NCAA DIII tournament that year, the D3Hoops.com poll ranked Wash U at #1 and NYU at #2.

NYU's season came to an end in the national quarterfinal round at the hands of Emmanuel in OT at Coles Center, while Wash U went on to win their fourth national championship, defeating Emmanuel in the national semifinals in Danbury, CT in the process.

Current NYU women's basketball head coach Meg Barber served as a team captain on the 2000-01 NYU women's basketball team, and next month, on Friday, January 20, 2023 the new athletic facility at the basement of the John A. Paulson Center at 181 Mercer Street (the site of the former Coles Sports Center) will open for UAA conference action, almost 7 years after Coles Sports Center closed its doors for good.

If NYU ends up at #1 in the upcoming D3Hoops.com poll, this may come at a fitting time in the history of the NYU women's basketball team.

[scottiedawg]

Awesomely cool to learn about this history!