Top 25 discussion

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scottiedawg

Quote from: Augie2020 on February 14, 2023, 06:35:29 PM
Quote from: scottiedawg on February 14, 2023, 04:07:56 PM
Quote from: Augie2020 on February 14, 2023, 04:06:02 PM
I think that is the reason they have a top 25 discussion board which I think I asked my question in??Being in the top four get you a quadrant or no scottiedawg?

Generally I feel like this board has been used to discuss the D3Hoops.com Top 25 poll.


Top 4 overall "seeds" for the NCAA Tournament is a different discussion.

My 4 top seeds for the NCAA Tournament right now are:
Smith (faaaar ahead at #1)
Scranton
Christopher Newport
NYU
Scottie how did you come it with them 4? Can you explain if you dont mind and how Smith is your #1

Happy to!

While I have my own opinions on how I'd like to see the committees relatively weight the 5 NCAA Primary Criteria, what I'm doing is trying to "guess" how they are actually weighting them.

So between Regional Rankings, their order, and the top 16s (whatever we have from last year and so far this year), I try to assign weights to each of the Primary Criteria that "explain" or result in a "match" to the actual rankings.

Here's how I see the top few teams, right now:

   
       
       
       
       
       
       
       
       
       
       
TeamWinning %NCAA SOSW vRROL vRRO
Smith0.9570.653101
Scranton10.58580
Christopher Newport10.54890
NYU0.9050.62262
Babson0.8260.62194
Trinity (Texas)0.9570.51351
Ithaca0.9130.55322
Hope0.9090.54241
Trinity (Conn)0.8330.60653





scottiedawg

Oh, and then I apply the weights to each of the Criteria to come up with an "Overall Stat" and rank the teams off of that.

Smith, 8048.90
Scranton, 7756.50
CNU, 7414.20
NYU, 7271.80
Babson, 6959.50
Trinity Tx, 6657.90
Ithaca, 6600.50
Hope, 6444.20
Trinity Ct, 6441.20
Ohio Northern, 6388.50

You can see where there are big gaps between teams and where there are small gaps.

When the top 16s come out I'll see how closely my order matches the actual top 16. And then adjust my weights to hopefully match the order of both the 70 ranked teams and the top 16.

Augie2020


Augie2020

Someone I'm following ran the men's selection already and the first four in first four out as it stands today.Asked if he can do the women but I think he only does the men on D3.Forget his name have to look it up on twitter does a really cool job.

scottiedawg

Yeah I bet it's Drew Pasteur, d3bubble.

scottiedawg

Mine isn't as sophisticated as Drew's tremendous work, but here was my "last four in, first four out" 2 days ago (and not much change since): https://twitter.com/scott_peterson4/status/1624946499829264388

Augie2020

great work!Keep it up you really ad to this board !

Augie2020

Scottie I think it's Matt Snyder.

scottiedawg

Ah, he also does great stuff.

Drew's work is just wild because he predicts every game for the rest of the season. So he can actually calculate Probabilities that any team makes the tournament.

Augie2020

Nice and he is also on twitter?If so need to follow ty

FCGrizzliesGrad

Who's got hosting priority for which weekend this year? I can never remember. CNU will certainly be affected by it.
.

Football picker extraordinaire
5 titles: CCIW, NJAC, ODAC:S
3x: ASC, IIAC, MIAA:S, MIAC, NACC:S, NCAC, OAC:P, Nat'l
2x: HCAC, ODAC:P, WIAC
1x: Bracket, OAC:S

Basketball
2013 WIAC Pickem Co-champ
2015 Nat'l Pickem
2017: LEC and MIAA Pickem
2019: MIAA and WIAC Pickem

Soccer
2023: Mens Pickem

Augie2020


scottiedawg

Quote from: Augie2020 on February 14, 2023, 11:03:29 PM
I think it's women 1st.

Yup.

So CNU women should get to host 1st weekend, which will send CNU MBB on the road 1st weekend.  I think something similar could happen with WashU.

2nd weekend I can't see a scenario where the CNU WBB get to host, due to geography (not due to CNU MBB having hosting priority 2nd weekend).

FCGrizzliesGrad

Quote from: scottiedawg on February 14, 2023, 07:39:05 PM
Quote from: Augie2020 on February 14, 2023, 06:35:29 PM
Quote from: scottiedawg on February 14, 2023, 04:07:56 PM
Quote from: Augie2020 on February 14, 2023, 04:06:02 PM
I think that is the reason they have a top 25 discussion board which I think I asked my question in??Being in the top four get you a quadrant or no scottiedawg?

Generally I feel like this board has been used to discuss the D3Hoops.com Top 25 poll.


Top 4 overall "seeds" for the NCAA Tournament is a different discussion.

My 4 top seeds for the NCAA Tournament right now are:
Smith (faaaar ahead at #1)
Scranton
Christopher Newport
NYU
Scottie how did you come it with them 4? Can you explain if you dont mind and how Smith is your #1

Happy to!

While I have my own opinions on how I'd like to see the committees relatively weight the 5 NCAA Primary Criteria, what I'm doing is trying to "guess" how they are actually weighting them.

So between Regional Rankings, their order, and the top 16s (whatever we have from last year and so far this year), I try to assign weights to each of the Primary Criteria that "explain" or result in a "match" to the actual rankings.

Here's how I see the top few teams, right now:

   
       
       
       
       
       
       
       
       
       
       
TeamWinning %NCAA SOSW vRROL vRRO
Smith0.9570.653101
Scranton10.58580
Christopher Newport10.54890
NYU0.9050.62262
Babson0.8260.62194
Trinity (Texas)0.9570.51351
Ithaca0.9130.55322
Hope0.9090.54241
Trinity (Conn)0.8330.60653
A couple of those teams aren't top of their region (not counting Babson who's behind Smith) in the new rankings. Hope is 3rd in R7 behind Ohio Northern (.870, .587, 4-2) and Baldwin Wallace (.870, .577, 4-2). Trinity (CT) is behind Tufts (.750, .655, 6-5) in R1. And just to include every region, tops in R8 and R9 are Transylvania (1.000, .530, 1-0) and UW-Whitewater (.792, .653, 7-2)
.

Football picker extraordinaire
5 titles: CCIW, NJAC, ODAC:S
3x: ASC, IIAC, MIAA:S, MIAC, NACC:S, NCAC, OAC:P, Nat'l
2x: HCAC, ODAC:P, WIAC
1x: Bracket, OAC:S

Basketball
2013 WIAC Pickem Co-champ
2015 Nat'l Pickem
2017: LEC and MIAA Pickem
2019: MIAA and WIAC Pickem

Soccer
2023: Mens Pickem

CNU85

Nice gesture by CNU coach Broderick and CNU. On senior night the seniors from Mary Washington were recognized by name and with flowers at half court.