Top 25 discussion

[scottiedawg]

Scottiedawg I notice you wrote about playing Bard will hurt Ithaca sos.Then the next day they lose to Vasser.Will that put Suny New Paltz #1 in Region 3 and move Ithaca to #2?

Wow I had no idea how close these two are.  Both 880 WP.  541 to 549 SOS.  I think Ithaca's 4 wins vRRO will keep them 1st?

[saratoga]

Why the heck would Desales waste two spots on their schedule with non D-3 schools?
I'm sure the NCAA committee will hold that against them...no reason for that with about 5 million D3 schools within 2 hours of their campus.

[scottiedawg]

I don't think DeSales' NCAA fate (and seeding, bracketing, etc), hinges on 957 vs 960 Win%.

[Augie2020]

Why the heck would Desales waste two spots on their schedule with non D-3 schools?
I'm sure the NCAA committee will hold that against them...no reason for that with about 5 million D3 schools within 2 hours of their campus.

I agree I think it was a tournament at Lebanon Valley the first two games.

[saratoga]

I guess I just wonder why, with all the quality schools in Pa. & NJ., you'd waste 2 games like that.
Most teams realize the importance of building their resume.
Then again, if they keep on winning, maybe they've developed a new template for success. 

And...I still think Amherst gets in.

[Pat Coleman]

I also found out that Desales women are 22-1 against D3 opponents but record is 24-1.I had no clue that Penn State Hazelton and Penn State Schulykull are not part of d3 they are part of (Uscaa).You learn something new everyday in D3.I just assumed they were in d3 because some of the other PSU campuses are.

No need to assume. If you look at the schedules on our sites, the D3 teams are the ones with links and non-D3 teams don't have links to team pages for them.

[thebear]

Scottiedawg I notice you wrote about playing Bard will hurt Ithaca sos.Then the next day they lose to Vasser.Will that put Suny New Paltz #1 in Region 3 and move Ithaca to #2?

I kept the book on Saturday when New Paltz visited Potsdam, they are very good and very deep.

Starting center rolled her ankle early in the game, her sub came in and no drop off. 

Brianna Fitzgerald is a legit AA candidate, she's an energizer bunny out on the court, great nonstop motor. 

They are intensely and well coached.
 
Mostly women from Long Island and the Hudson Valley. 

They haven't lost since Nov 22nd, and swept the SUNYAC at 18-0, average victory margin of 22 pts per game. 

They probably need to schedule some better non-conference games, although they did play Messiah early in the season. 

They are located in a spot that's easy to get New England and NJ/Pennsylvania schools.

Snyder's site has them with an SOS .009 better than Ithaca, both with 3 losses including both teams at Vassar.

[Augie2020]

Totally agree about Matt Snyder and the job he does.That was the reason I mentioned it to scottiedawg because he has New Paltz ahead of Ithaca.I truly enjoy following Matt.

[Caz Bombers]

IC vs NP would be a banger if the NCAA were to match them up, probably in Round 2. The alma mater vs the hometown squad. I think they met a few years back in the Big Dance at The Bulb and the Hawks pulled off the road upset.

[KnightSlappy]

Totally agree about Matt Snyder and the job he does.That was the reason I mentioned it to scottiedawg because he has New Paltz ahead of Ithaca.I truly enjoy following Matt.

I'm glad people enjoy and use the numbers I post!

My system is very inelegant, it's more to get things directionally close then allow for people to make their own decisions with all the criteria, so I'd be more inclined to go with what Scott is seeing for WBB and Drew (@d3bubble) or Bob (@IWUhoopscom) on MBB.

[scottiedawg]

Biggest Vote Gainers:
Loras: +110
Gustavus Adolphus: +92
Trinity (Conn): +53
Messiah: +50
Babson: +48
Calvin: +47
Chicago: +39
Millikin: +39
Trine: +38
Tufts: +30
Puget Sound: +27
Emory: +16
UC Santa Cruz: +15
Elizabethtown: +9
Smith: +8
SUNY New Paltz: +8
La Verne: +7
Concordia Moorhead: +7
Washington & Jefferson: +6
St. John Fisher: +5
UW-Stout: +5
NYU: +3
Scranton: +2
Roger Williams: +1

Biggest Vote Decliners
Ohio Northern: -117
Ithaca: -112
UW-Whitewater: -112
Baldwin Wallace: -91
Wartburg: -74
WashU: -67
UW-Eau Claire: -17
East Texas Baptist: -14
Stevens: -10
Trinity (Texas): -6
Hardin-Simmons: -4
DeSales: -4
Transylvania: -3
UW-Oshkosh: -3
Rochester: -2

Biggest Vote Gainers, Percentage Edition:
Loras, +200%
Tufts, +188%

Biggest Vote Decliners, Percentage Edition:
East Texas Baptist, -100%
UW-Eau Claire, -81%

[Darryl Nester]

How They Fared (Complete)

Top 25

Rank	Pts	Team	W-L	Results
#1	614	Christopher Newport	26-0	def. (n) Finlandia, 96-61; def. (n) Mary Washington, 75-56
#2	585	Transylvania	27-0	def. Bluffton, 82-55; def. Hanover, 85-58
#3	577	Scranton	27-0	def. Moravian, 58-31; def. #28 Elizabethtown, 69-54
#4	532	Smith	26-1	def. Springfield, 61-49; def. #12 Babson, 67-52
#5	530	Trinity (Texas)	26-1	def. Texas Lutheran, 77-62; def. Colorado College, 64-54
#6	514	New York University	22-2	def. Brandeis, 85-62
#7	481	Hope	25-2	def. Albion, 58-53; def. #13 Trine, 76-65
#8	436	Hardin-Simmons	23-3	LOST to Texas-Dallas, 71-73
#9	423	DeSales	26-1	def. Arcadia, 64-54; def. T#31 Stevens, 59-36
#10	360	Gustavus Adolphus	25-2	def. St. Benedict, 97-62; def. T#31 Concordia-Moorhead, 79-57
#11	326	Messiah	25-2	def. Widener, 66-39; def. Alvernia, 60-37
#12	288	Babson	23-5	def. Wheaton (Mass.), 79-41; def. MIT, 77-66; LOST at #4 Smith, 52-67
#13	287	Trine	21-6	def. (n) #22 Calvin, 66-61; LOST at #7 Hope, 65-76
#14	276	Chicago	21-4	def. #26 Washington U., 71-63
#15	259	Ithaca	23-4	def. RPI, 73-39; LOST to Skidmore, 52-54
#16	209	Trinity (Conn.)	22-5	def. (n) Williams, 60-42; LOST at #27 Tufts, 38-57
#17	193	Baldwin Wallace	22-5	def. John Carroll, 73-62; LOST at Marietta, 65-71
#18	170	Ohio Northern	23-4	def. Otterbein, 52-51; def. Marietta, 60-45
#19	165	Loras	23-4	def. Simpson, 88-54; won at #24 Wartburg, 72-61
#20	149	Puget Sound	21-5	LOST to (n) Pacific, 49-64
#21	134	UW-Whitewater	21-6	def. T#37 UW-Oshkosh, 65-57; def. #39 UW-Eau Claire, 71-62
#22	120	Calvin	21-6	def. Adrian, 70-47; LOST to (n) #13 Trine, 61-66
#23	89	Millikin	23-4	def. Illinois Wesleyan, 82-65; def. Augustana, 57-52
#24	72	Wartburg	21-6	def. Luther, 75-55; LOST to #19 Loras, 61-72
#25	53	Washington and Jefferson	24-3	def. Geneva, 78-58; LOST to Chatham, 40-57

Others receiving votes

Rank	Pts	Team	W-L	Results
#26	48	Washington U.	17-8	LOST at #14 Chicago, 63-71
#27	46	Tufts	21-6	def. Middlebury, 74-39; def. #16 Trinity (Conn.), 57-38
#28	32	Elizabethtown	22-4	def. Catholic, 81-64; LOST at #3 Scranton, 54-69
#29	30	La Verne	24-3	def. Cal Lutheran, 72-57; LOST to Redlands, 69-70
#30	24	SUNY New Paltz	23-4	def. SUNY Geneseo, 76-59; LOST to Cortland, 52-57
T#31	16	Concordia-Moorhead	22-5	def. Hamline, 74-67; LOST at #10 Gustavus Adolphus, 57-79
T#31	16	Emory	17-7	won at #36 Rochester, 55-53
T#31	16	Stevens	22-5	def. Misericordia, 66-55; LOST at #9 DeSales, 36-59
#34	15	UC Santa Cruz	17-7	LOST to (n) Mary Washington, 56-70
#35	14	St. John Fisher	25-2	def. Elmira, 67-41; def. Nazareth, 78-55
#36	6	Rochester	16-9	LOST to T#31 Emory, 53-55
T#37	5	UW-Oshkosh	19-8	def. UW-La Crosse, 57-54; LOST at #21 UW-Whitewater, 57-65
T#37	5	UW-Stout	18-8	LOST to #39 UW-Eau Claire, 67-68
#39	4	UW-Eau Claire	20-8	def. UW-Platteville, 65-55; won at T#37 UW-Stout, 68-67; LOST at #21 UW-Whitewater, 62-71
T#40	3	Berea	26-2	def. Agnes Scott, 65-52; def. Maryville (Tenn.), 55-38; def. Piedmont, 71-63
T#40	3	Roger Williams	25-3	def. Nichols, 105-62; def. Western New England, 56-40; def. Endicott, 61-51

[FCGrizzliesGrad]

Scranton picks up their 1st loss of the season losing 55-62 to RI College in the 2nd round. Smith almost lost tonight as well holding on for a 65-64 win over St John Fisher.

[VT-Alum-NOVA]

Is it 500 miles or 600 miles for the air travel restriction?  If 500, for CNU, Wartburg, Trinity, Tufts sectional games, Trinity gets nod to host?

[Ron Boerger]

Is it 500 miles or 600 miles for the air travel restriction?  If 500, for CNU, Wartburg, Trinity, Tufts sectional games, Trinity gets nod to host?

500. 

That said, the folks who really dug into the brackets think Tufts is the top seed with CNU being unable to host due to men's precedence this week.  A pity b/c Trinity(TX) has already had to travel so many times in the past to make flights work when they otherwise would have hosted.