Top 25 discussion

bearswatcher · January 05, 2006, 08:15:26 AM

I think that Emory may be worthy of some top 25 votes, and stick to my earlier position that Brandeis and Chicgo, returning all their players from teams that beat Wah U and NYU last year will be the UAA teams to beat

deiscanton · January 05, 2006, 01:46:35 PM

Emory looks to be the best of the 4 UAA teams not yet in the top 25. Emory hosts Case, Wash U and Chicago to start UAA play. If the Eagles can remain undefeated at home after those games, then top 25 votes should follow.

enterthehooligans · January 06, 2006, 02:32:00 AM

NYU women's should be top 10 this weekend. Check them out at nyuhoops.com.

Pat Coleman · January 06, 2006, 03:07:23 PM

Perhaps they shouldn't have pulled out of the Marymount tipoff tournament, then, in order to play the NYC Metro Area "all-stars."

jagluski · January 06, 2006, 07:39:49 PM

Quote from: enterthehooligans on January 06, 2006, 02:32:00 AM
NYU women's should be top 10 this weekend. Check them out at nyuhoops.com.

I wouldn't bet on it. Rochester wins at NYU for the first time since 1988, 57-46.

bbald eagle · January 10, 2006, 11:23:29 AM

Millikin, the preseason #1, has now dropped out of the Top 25.

Matt Barnhart (kid) · January 10, 2006, 11:48:30 AM

Quote from: bbald eagle on January 10, 2006, 11:23:29 AM
Millikin, the preseason #1, has now dropped out of the Top 25.

Hard to not vote a team #1 when they are coming off a national championship and lose only one starter.

Snowman · January 10, 2006, 01:15:33 PM

Well, USM holds onto the number 1 ranking, I though Brandeis might slip in.

Considering the cake schedule that USM has the rest of the way, I guess we will remain on top until the NCAA Tournament.

Interesting that Wash U got 2 first place votes, looks like the UAA is shaping up to have a heck of a competitive season based on Rochester playing so well and I just looked at the records of UAA teams, pretty outstanding.

deiscanton · January 10, 2006, 01:34:16 PM

With Brandeis never having gone to the NCAA tournament, and Wash U's trouncing of Chicago on Saturday, I would not have wanted to see Brandeis get the #1 ranking for a week only to have it fall at NYU.

The Brandeis/NYU game on Saturday will be big enough anyway.....

bbald eagle · January 10, 2006, 04:00:24 PM

21 of D3Hoops top 25 teams also appear in this week's USA TODAY ESPN Top 25 women's basketball poll:
http://www.wbca.org/DIIICoachesPoll.asp
Southern Maine has moved up to No. 1 from No. 3 in that poll

Dark Knight · January 10, 2006, 09:53:03 PM

Massey's poll for Women's college basketball finally came out for the games through 1/7. It definitely seems to overrate and mix up some undefeated teams, but other than that it looks fairly reasonable. 20 of the top 25 are the same as the d3hoops.com poll.

According to Massey, the most overrated teams in the d3hoops.com poll are

NYU (22 places)
Messiah (by 24 places)
Washington and Jefferson (25 places)
Randolph-Macon (by 62 places!)

1 McMurry 12 0
2 Medaille 8 0
3 R Stockton 10 0
4 Scranton 12 1
5 S Maine 12 1
6 Brandeis 9 0
7 Mary Washington 11 0
8 Mississippi Col 9 1
9 Baldwin-Wallace 11 2
10 Chicago 11 1
11 Bowdoin 11 1
12 Oglethorpe 12 1
13 Washington MO 11 1
14 DePauw 13 1
15 Pac Lutheran 11 1
16 George Fox 12 1
17 Capital 12 1
18 Wheaton IL 10 1
19 Hope 12 1
20 Williams 12 2
21 Calvin 11 2
22 WI LaCrosse 13 1
23 Puget Sound 9 3
24 Salem MA 8 1
25 Catholic 9 3

A quick glance at Randolph-Macon's results shows an 8-2 record, worst in the top 25, and their best win is against Bridgewater (7-4), with whom they split a pair of games. How to they end up with a #15 rating?

Pat Coleman · January 10, 2006, 10:28:41 PM

Because four of five starters are back from a team that went to the national title game last year, including probably the best player in the country, Megan Silva. So we'd have to be able to believe they are a quality team.

Ralph Turner · January 10, 2006, 10:31:46 PM

Dark Knight, the #1 Massey ranking of McMurry will make more sense, if McMurry defeats ASC-defending champion Howard Payne at HPU on Thursday evening. (That game will be on the radio on the McMurry web site at 5:30 pm CST.)

McMurry defeated crosstown rival Hardin-Simmons last month at home. I am not yet ready to put them in the top slot, but there are 3 very tough games among the 13 remaining in the ASC-West and an 8-team post-season tourney that will be played at the winner of the ASC-East before Selection Monday in which McMurry can consolidate any ranking they receive.

Ralph Turner · January 10, 2006, 10:35:42 PM

Dark Knight, Randolph Macon has relatively easy route to the Final Four. If they can run the South, then they face the West (which is a whole lot easier that the Central Region or the Great Lakes or a Mid-Atlantic or the UAA rep).

hoopstermom · January 11, 2006, 08:20:20 AM

RMC's two losses are by a total of 6 points and an extra 10 minutes of play, either game was one shot from a different ending.

They play Richard Stockton on 2/2 in NJ...if Stockton is still undefeated at that time and Macon remains with just the 2 losses, it will be interesting to see the effects of the final outcome. A win for Macon would certainly raise their credibility.