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eaglemaniac

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The Week 10 top 25 poll has 14 teams in the top 25 that were also in t e preseason top 25.  Six others in the Week 10 poll were on the horizon in the preseason poll, receiving early votes.  Five of the Week 10 top 25 received no votes preseason.

Two of the Week 10 top ten teams (Mary Washington and Calvin) were not in the top 25 preseason.

Four of the top 10 preseason teams are no longer in the top 25  (Millikin, UW-Stout, St. Benedict, George Fox).

UW-Stevens Point, preseason #21, is back in the top 25 at 25 in Week 10.

Pat Coleman

Quote from: eaglemaniac on February 07, 2006, 06:41:53 AM
You pick your ratings.........I'll pick mine...........

http://www.masseyratings.com/rate.php?lg=cbw&sub=III&mid=6

I understand you like the one that ranks you higher, but the one I cite is the one with the proven track record.

If you want to delude yourself into thinking you're the best team in the country, that's fine, but March is going to be a real disappointment.
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Quote from: old 40 on September 25, 2007, 08:23:57 PMLet's discuss (sports) in a positive way, sometimes kidding each other with no disrespect.

eaglemaniac

You're a real positive kind of guy aren't you.  It's a game for goodness sake. Have some fun with it and learn to relax.
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jagluski

I've already made this comment, but I'll make it again.

If Mary Washington is really the best team in the country, they'll prove it in the tournament.  The Massey Ratings or any poll will have no impact on that.

eaglemaniac

Quote from: jagluski on February 07, 2006, 04:19:19 PM
I've already made this comment, but I'll make it again.

If Mary Washington is really the best team in the country, they'll prove it in the tournament.  The Massey Ratings or any poll will have no impact on that.

Absolutely correct.
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Pat Coleman

Quote from: eaglemaniac on February 07, 2006, 04:04:21 PM
You're a real positive kind of guy aren't you.  It's a game for goodness sake. Have some fun with it and learn to relax.

Eaglemaniac, if I weren't having fun this site wouldn't exist. I have a full-time job in order to pay the bills. Running D3hoops.com/D3football.com doesn't pay me one dime and hasn't since 2000.
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Quote from: old 40 on September 25, 2007, 08:23:57 PMLet's discuss (sports) in a positive way, sometimes kidding each other with no disrespect.

sunny

Quote from: Pat Coleman on February 07, 2006, 03:26:35 PM
Quote from: eaglemaniac on February 07, 2006, 06:41:53 AM
You pick your ratings.........I'll pick mine...........

http://www.masseyratings.com/rate.php?lg=cbw&sub=III&mid=6

I understand you like the one that ranks you higher, but the one I cite is the one with the proven track record.

If you want to delude yourself into thinking you're the best team in the country, that's fine, but March is going to be a real disappointment.

Pat, I get your point, but the Massey Rating with the proven track record has Puget Sound ranked No. 1.  While I don't personally think that that's as far off base as a lot of other people might, the average poll voter (based on the poll results) would have an easier time with Mary Wash as No. 1 than UPS.  Of course, at least the D3hoops.com poll has UPS ranked this week (unlike some other poll).  :)

What are your thoughts on UPS and their lofty ranking in the Massey w/MOV ratings?


eaglemaniac

Quote from: Pat Coleman on February 07, 2006, 07:54:17 PM
Quote from: eaglemaniac on February 07, 2006, 04:04:21 PM
You're a real positive kind of guy aren't you.  It's a game for goodness sake. Have some fun with it and learn to relax.

Eaglemaniac, if I weren't having fun this site wouldn't exist. I have a full-time job in order to pay the bills. Running D3hoops.com/D3football.com doesn't pay me one dime and hasn't since 2000.

We all have our burdens in life and jobs, kids and every day stress takes its toll.  I appreciate your love of D3 sports and the time you put into it.  My issue was more the fact that you seem to be a bit heavy handed with the negativity of any opinion that doesn't reflect yours. I simply stated that a Poll/Rating had UMW #1 and was happy  for the team. You immediately noted that this Poll/Rating was flawed and not worth the time it took to read it.  You later stated that "If you want to delude yourself into thinking you're the best team in the country, that's fine, but March is going to be a real disappointment".  I assume this means you haven't voted for UMW in your Poll and that's your opinion. I respect that. I guess all but one team will be disappointed when all is said and done.
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Pat Coleman

Quote from: sunny on February 07, 2006, 08:08:17 PM
Of course, at least the D3hoops.com poll has UPS ranked this week (unlike some other poll).  :)

What are your thoughts on UPS and their lofty ranking in the Massey w/MOV ratings?

Some other poll is clinging to George Fox, even though UPS just went there and won. Guess Whitman's coach really likes GFU.

Agreed, that's a puzzler but I can only guess the math fits. We thought it was a puzzler this time last year when they tabbed Millikin, too.

I'm not saying it's the be-all and end-all of rankings but of his two rankings, it's the one that's historically better.
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Quote from: old 40 on September 25, 2007, 08:23:57 PMLet's discuss (sports) in a positive way, sometimes kidding each other with no disrespect.

jagluski

Quote from: eaglemaniac on February 07, 2006, 09:32:25 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on February 07, 2006, 07:54:17 PM
Quote from: eaglemaniac on February 07, 2006, 04:04:21 PM
You're a real positive kind of guy aren't you.  It's a game for goodness sake. Have some fun with it and learn to relax.

Eaglemaniac, if I weren't having fun this site wouldn't exist. I have a full-time job in order to pay the bills. Running D3hoops.com/D3football.com doesn't pay me one dime and hasn't since 2000.

We all have our burdens in life and jobs, kids and every day stress takes its toll.  I appreciate your love of D3 sports and the time you put into it.  My issue was more the fact that you seem to be a bit heavy handed with the negativity of any opinion that doesn't reflect yours. I simply stated that a Poll/Rating had UMW #1 and was happy  for the team. You immediately noted that this Poll/Rating was flawed and not worth the time it took to read it.  You later stated that "If you want to delude yourself into thinking you're the best team in the country, that's fine, but March is going to be a real disappointment".  I assume this means you haven't voted for UMW in your Poll and that's your opinion. I respect that. I guess all but one team will be disappointed when all is said and done.

I don't think there was any negativity from Pat until your responses started to get way out of line.  If Pat didn't vote for UMW, there would be no way they were ranked #4 in the poll, so close to third.

In all the time I've followed this site(which is 4-5 years by now), Pat has always been very patient with people who disagree with him and very respectful of their opinions. 

He stated his opinion and you decided to start with the sarcasm about being a positive guy.   If you're upset about the negativity, you have no one to blame but yourself.

jagluski

#6 Maryland upset #1 UNC 98-95 in OT tonight in Chapel Hill.

So, (I think I'm right about this), Mary Washington is now the only undefeated NCAA women's team in the country.  And the Lawrence men are still the only undefeated NCAA men's team in the country.

Wydown Blvd.

With Frostburg State being the team with the best record that Mary Washington has left, they definately have a great chance of finshing the regular season undefeated. (16-5, 12-3 conf., 13-4 reg.)

eaglemaniac

Quote from: BlakcMajikc on February 10, 2006, 09:33:18 AM
With Frostburg State being the team with the best record that Mary Washington has left, they definately have a great chance of finshing the regular season undefeated. (16-5, 12-3 conf., 13-4 reg.)

It'll be tough to do as each team they play in conference is fighting for a 3rd or 4th(possibly 2nd if CUA stumbles) place finish and a home court advantage in the 1st round of the CAC tournament. Two of those 3 games are away as well.
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