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TC HOOPS

bbald eagle - Your right, I wasn't picking on NYU. they were the only ones that got to do it because they keep winning. My question is do you think its fair that anyone should have the advantage of playing 4 games on their home court to get to the final 4? You say having the home court does not guarantee a win, your right but you can't say its not a big advantage playing on your home court, just ask any coach if they rather play a home or away game. I just think when you get to the NCAA playoffs it should be on a netural site, but I know its D3 so they can't because of money. So why do they wait till the final 4 to put it at a neural site instead of having the top remaining seed host it? I know, $$$$$$$$.

TC HOOPS

stobbe - Your a college graduate and you would be mortified by the way I talk, did you grow up under a rock? What is it that I have said that has you so mortified? That I think GMC should be ranked in the top 25? WOW that's crazy isn't it? Go back under your rock with the rest of them. My daughter is not embarassed at all of me, I let everyone on here know who I am. I don't hide behind a screen name like the rest of you and put people down. That's more embarassing.

Gray Fox

Quote from: TC HOOPS on March 12, 2007, 01:35:46 PM
stobbe - Your a college graduate and you would be mortified by the way I talk, did you grow up under a rock? What is it that I have said that has you so mortified? That I think GMC should be ranked in the top 25? WOW that's crazy isn't it? Go back under your rock with the rest of them. My daughter is not embarassed at all of me, I let everyone on here know who I am. I don't hide behind a screen name like the rest of you and put people down. That's more embarassing.
I didn't realize that "TC HOOPS" was a real name and not a screen name.  I am so "embarassed".  :-[
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pureshooter

  TC,
 
 You  are right. Huge difference from D-1.
 And anyone that has played b-ball for any length of time knows your homecourt is huge, specifically the shooting background and lighting.

But remember, it's ALWAYS about the money.

enough TC bashing.

Dave 'd-mac' McHugh

TC Hoop - your not embarrasing by asking why the team isn't in the Top 25... but your comments to us being stupid, wise cracks that people should be back under rocks, the fact your karma has dropped faster than a lead ball, and the inappropriate comments you made originally which apparently got you kicked off (something I do not make decisions about) all have been embarrasing... including to many of us who have posted here for years.

Finally, I have tried to give you examples (as everyone else has) of why most people don't feel GMC was a team that warranted a Top 25 nod, despite their impressive record. You didn't like the reasons, which defeats the purpose of asking the question in the first place (unless you plan to hear reasons you don't like, don't ask the question). I am done... so done with dealing with you.

GMC and Lake Erie (on the men's side) both only had a couple of losses this season, both weren't ranked in the Top 25 (and probably won't), and both lost in the 2nd Round of the tournament. Neither gave anyone a really good reason to give them credit and you gave many no reason to care about GMC anymore.

By the way... this is Division III... not DI... quite trying to compare the two!
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bbald eagle


Quote from: Gray Fox on March 12, 2007, 01:40:34 PM
Quote from: TC HOOPS on March 12, 2007, 01:35:46 PM
stobbe - Your a college graduate and you would be mortified by the way I talk, did you grow up under a rock? What is it that I have said that has you so mortified? That I think GMC should be ranked in the top 25? WOW that's crazy isn't it? Go back under your rock with the rest of them. My daughter is not embarassed at all of me, I let everyone on here know who I am. I don't hide behind a screen name like the rest of you and put people down. That's more embarassing.
I didn't realize that "TC HOOPS" was a real name and not a screen name.  I am so "embarassed".  :-[


TC Hoops has identified his daughter by team and shirt number on this board, so even though he uses a screen name, he surely isn't hiding behind it.

Quote from: TC HOOPS on March 12, 2007, 01:21:20 PM
bbald eagle - Your right, I wasn't picking on NYU. they were the only ones that got to do it because they keep winning. My question is do you think its fair that anyone should have the advantage of playing 4 games on their home court to get to the final 4? You say having the home court does not guarantee a win, your right but you can't say its not a big advantage playing on your home court, just ask any coach if they rather play a home or away game. I just think when you get to the NCAA playoffs it should be on a netural site, but I know its D3 so they can't because of money. So why do they wait till the final 4 to put it at a neural site instead of having the top remaining seed host it? I know, $$$$$$$$.

Do I think it's fair? No. Do I think it will change? No.

But I also don't think the NCAA always has the "top remaining seed host" the sectionals. The $$ sometimes dictate otherwise. Location and gym size factor in. Mary Washington, the team I follow, won't get a sectional because of its gym size. And Bowdoin probably went to Scranton because Brunswick ME isn't central to anything while Scranton PA was central for UMW, Bowdoin, and Rochester.
 

TC HOOPS

pureshooter - I owe you a drink. Your the FIRST person that took my back. Thanks.

Your right, as much as I like TC HOOPS its not my real name. I had said it a while back. My daughter is #25 on GMC, I think you will be able to figure out the rest. God she is going to be so EMBARASSED, give me a break. I guess tha's a bad thing a dad sticking up for his daughters team.

Pat Coleman

Quote from: TC HOOPS on March 12, 2007, 02:03:31 PM
I guess tha's a bad thing a dad sticking up for his daughters team.

It's not that -- it's the way you go about doing it. It's poor form, to say the least. It reflects poorly on your family and the program.
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foul_language

I can't resist an observation, although I should because I know what's going to happen.

In the past two basketball seasons, the nastiest postings I've read have been from Gwyned Mercey (this year) and Hope (last year), and the commentary has been about other schools cheers or fans or teams or all of the above. Both schools appear to have religious foundations.

I can certainly appreciate standing up for a team, but I can't figure out what anyone gains by pit-bulling another school in these forums. What's the reward? It's pretty clear all anyone can hope to get is a spirited fight, which is fine--as long as people maintain a sense of humor and...sense. In both instances I'm referring to, the postings have degenerated into name-calling and downright nastiness. That really ends up detracting from the quality of the basektball the teams play.

Thank you for this opportunity to, unfortunately, prolong this diversion from basketball. It might be of interest to all that the only PERFECT basketball is played by MY daughter... ;D


TC HOOPS

Pat and "d-mac" - You can't actually believe I think the both of you are STUPID. I am not that crazy. You guy's do an unreal job on here and we are lucky to have a site like this for D-3 hoops. You take me WAY too serious. I understand what the both of you have been telling me why GMC was not ranked, GOD knows its getting old on both ends. So lets just let it go, the season is over for GMC but I'll be back next year to drive you crazy. I bet you can't wait. Keep up the good work.

And to everyone else that's offended by my postings, calm down and don't be so mortified. It's all in fun.

GMC is a great college with great players and coaches. Don't be hating on them because of the love you have for me.

newtonnancy

WHOOOOOOOAAAAAAAAAA

I thought it was Brandeis who should have benn embarassed, not TC...

Wooops wrong board (she said with a slight grin on her face)

newtonnancy

Does anyone other then me find this interesting:

Taken from the Brandeis University Newspaper, The Justice, in an article about Malcolm. Obviously, she will state that she mis-spoke or was misquoted but I would think it is of much interest:

"Coming to Brandeis, the only school that offered her a basketball scholarship, Malcolm said she was a little rough around the edges defensively. "

Ralph Turner

Quote from: foul_language on March 12, 2007, 02:34:09 PM
I can't resist an observation, although I should because I know what's going to happen.

In the past two basketball seasons, the nastiest postings I've read have been from Gwyned Mercey (this year) and Hope (last year), and the commentary has been about other schools cheers or fans or teams or all of the above. Both schools appear to have religious foundations.

I can certainly appreciate standing up for a team, but I can't figure out what anyone gains by pit-bulling another school in these forums. What's the reward? It's pretty clear all anyone can hope to get is a spirited fight, which is fine--as long as people maintain a sense of humor and...sense. In both instances I'm referring to, the postings have degenerated into name-calling and downright nastiness. That really ends up detracting from the quality of the basektball the teams play.

Thank you for this opportunity to, unfortunately, prolong this diversion from basketball. It might be of interest to all that the only PERFECT basketball is played by MY daughter... ;D

Don't worry about crudeness coming from fans of religious institutions.  Churches are hospitals for sinners, not hotels for saints.

When I say that I play golf, they call me a hypocrit, too.

TC HOOPS

Quote from: newtonnancy on March 13, 2007, 12:13:24 PM
Does anyone other then me find this interesting:

Taken from the Brandeis University Newspaper, The Justice, in an article about Malcolm. Obviously, she will state that she mis-spoke or was misquoted but I would think it is of much interest:

"Coming to Brandeis, the only school that offered her a basketball scholarship, Malcolm said she was a little rough around the edges defensively. "

I find it interesting, Brandeis can give out basketball scholarships? Hopefully she just mis-spoke but I am sure it will get looked into.

bbald eagle

Quote from: TC HOOPS on March 12, 2007, 12:23:28 PM

One serious question. Do you think it's fair that NYU got to play all four games on their home court to get to the final 4? They don't even do that in HS state playoff games. And yes I know that's because they are all from the same state and it's because of money. But its not like the NCAA made big bucks off of NYU 1500 fans a game. Couldn't they get 1500 fans on any neutral site?

Here's a link to an article in today's Washington Post "Coaches Troubled by Meager Attendance for Women's Tournament" on the D-1 Tournament.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/03/29/AR2007032902271.html

"I supported neutral sites because there were so many people out there that felt like we were ready. Clearly, we're not ready." - Pat Summitt

"To avoid such home-court advantages, the NCAA decided to select sites in advance. ... The drawback is that women's basketball fans haven't shown a willingness to travel for their teams."

The attendance at D-1 games in neutral Los Angeles were way under 1,500 and way lower than the number at the D-3 Sweet 16 games hosted by participant Scranton that I saw.

And, no way NYU had 1,500 fans for its team at the Final Four in neutral Springfield, MA - maybe the snow kept them away?