Top 25 discussion

[Mr. Ypsi]

With only Kean at Villa Julie to go, voters could probably be forgiven for taking the week off and just re-mailing last week's ballot!  The ONLY two losses were by respectable margins on the road to higher ranked teams.

[David Collinge]

With only Kean at Villa Julie to go, voters could probably be forgiven for taking the week off and just re-mailing last week's ballot!  The ONLY two losses were by respectable margins on the road to higher ranked teams.

...and Kean won easily, see below:

[David Collinge]

HOW THEY FARED (week of Jan. 1-Jan. 6) (FINAL; games of Dec. 31 already included in current poll)
      
#   1   Hope (11-0) def. Tri-State 81-58
#   2   UW-Whitewater (13-0) won at UW-River Falls 86-54
#   3   Howard Payne (11-0) def. Texas-Dallas 83-40 and def. Texas-Tyler 88-59
#   4   NYU (9-0) def. Johns Hopkins 63-45
#   5   Mary Washington (9-1) won at Christopher Newport 67-52
#   6   Messiah (12-1) won at Dickinson 70-55
#   7   Thomas More (11-0) won at Waynesburg 90-34
#   8   McMurry (9-1) def. U. of the Ozarks 84-65
#   9   Simpson (11-1) def. Coe 85-60
#   10   Illinois Wesleyan (8-1) is idle
#   11   UW-Stevens Point (11-1) def. UW-Oshkosh 79-47
#   12   DePauw (10-2) def. Sewanee 77-35 and def. #25 Oglethorpe 75-63
#   13   Kean (11-1) def. Penn St.-Berks 106-52 and def. Villa Julie 72-45, both at Villa Julie
#   14   Randolph-Macon (7-0) is idle
#   15   Southern Maine (10-1) def. UM-Presque Isle 76-33 and def. Clark 84-45
#   16   Cortland St. (7-0) won at Clarkson 66-59
#   17   Tufts (10-0) won at Fitchburg St. 62-47
#   18   George Fox (10-1) def. Pacific Lutheran 64-40 and def. #23 Puget Sound 45-39
#   19   Lake Forest (8-1) is idle
#   20   Baldwin-Wallace (11-1) def. Heidelberg 84-59
#   21   Medaille (9-1) def. Colby 60-47 and def. St. Norbert 67-53, both at Ft. Lauderdale, FL
#   22   Rochester (8-1) won at Clarkson 54-34 and def. Carnegie Mellon 65-54
#   23   Puget Sound (8-3) won at Pacific 87-74 and lost at #18 George Fox 45-39
#   24   Wilmington (10-2) is idle
#   25   Oglethorpe (10-2) won at Centre 71-55 and lost at #12 DePauw 75-63

[atn alum]

so ranked teams went 27-0 for the week against the unrankeds, if i count right...?

[David Collinge]

#   16   Cortland St. (7-1) lost to William Smith 78-71

Chalk up another one for the Herons, now 7-1 overall with wins at #21 Medaille, vs. #18 George Fox on a neutral (west coast) court, and now at #16 Cortland St.  William Smith is the only blemish on these three schedules.  Their only loss was to #22 Rochester.  I keep waiting to see if they'll bubble up into the Top 25.  They're presently at equivalent-of-#30, so maybe next week is the week?



EDIT:  And hey! a little front-page love can't hurt, either! 

[Heron Boy]

William Smith has defeated #16 Cortland State this week! #18 George Fox two weeks ago! #21 Medaille to start the season. All of these games were won on the road! These also were the only losses these teams have suffered all season. William Smith has one lost in a good game to #22 Rochester.
What do they have to do to get ranked in the poll??
What a travesty!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Ralph Turner]

William Smith has defeated #16 Cortland State this week! #18 George Fox two weeks ago! #21 Medaille to start the season. All of these games were won on the road! These also were the only losses these teams have suffered all season. William Smith has one lost in a good game to #22 Rochester.
What do they have to do to get ranked in the poll??
What a travesty!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Welcome to the boards, Heron Boy.

I merged your post into the top 25 Discussion where more posters could comment on its relevance.

I think that the respect has been building for the Herons, who are now 7-1.  (The Cortland State win has occurred since the previous poll.)

You have been receiving votes since the first poll after the break.  In the Week #4 poll taken thru games of December 16th, the Herons were only 3-1.

I don't think that it is a travesty that Wm Smith is receiving votes at "#30".  The 2007 record was a very average 16-12 and 8-6 tied for 4th in the Liberty League.  There are over 430 schools playing basketball in 39 conferences.  Wm Smith has played less than one-third of its games and is already on everyone's radar.

[David Collinge]

Chalk up another one for the Herons, now 7-1 overall with wins at #21 Medaille, vs. #18 George Fox on a neutral (west coast) court, and now at #16 Cortland St.  William Smith is the only blemish on these three schedules.  Their only loss was to #22 Rochester.  I keep waiting to see if they'll bubble up into the Top 25.  They're presently at equivalent-of-#30, so maybe next week is the week?

William Smith has defeated #16 Cortland State this week! #18 George Fox two weeks ago! #21 Medaille to start the season. All of these games were won on the road! These also were the only losses these teams have suffered all season. William Smith has one lost in a good game to #22 Rochester.
What do they have to do to get ranked in the poll??
What a travesty!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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[dballa]

According to the scoreboard UW-Whitewater 60 UW-Eau Claire 63

Howard Payne 66 Miss. College 58. 

[David Collinge]

HOW THEY FARED (week of Jan. 7-13) (COMPLETE)
      
#   1   Hope (13-0) won at Calvin 56-39 and def. Olivet 65-48
#   2   UW-Whitewater (14-1) def. UW-La Crosse 92-62 and lost at UW-Eau Claire 63-60
#   3   Howard Payne (13-0) won at Louisiana College 73-49 and won at Mississippi College 66-58
#   4   NYU (11-0) def. New Jersey City 64-48 and def. Brandeis 57-47
#   5   Mary Washington (12-1) def. Frostburg St. 87-40, won at Gallaudet 89-43, and def. St. Mary's (MD) 77-43
#   6   Messiah (13-1) won at Alvernia 62-47
#   7   Thomas More (13-0) won at Grove City 61-46 and def. Washington & Jefferson 86-53
#   8   McMurry (11-1) won at Texas-Tyler 81-78 and won at Texas-Dallas 60-54
#   9   Simpson (13-1) won at Cornell 71-40 and won at Dubuque 101-52
#   10   Illinois Wesleyan (9-2) def. North Park 95-43 and lost to Millikin 68-63
#   11   UW-Stevens Point (13-1) won at UW-River Falls 83-70 and def. UW-Platteville 78-51
#   12   DePauw (11-3) won at Rhodes 76-39 and lost at Birmingham-Southern 71-58
#   13   Kean (12-1) won at Rutgers-Camden 93-45 and def. New Jersey City 94-48
#   14   Randolph-Macon (10-0) def. Catholic 71-63, def. Guilford 67-51 and def. Emory & Henry 86-78
#   15   Southern Maine (12-1) won at Husson 98-55 and won at #25 Eastern Conn. 55-50
#   16   Cortland St. (8-1) lost to William Smith 78-71 and won at SUNYIT 103-62
#   17   Tufts (12-0) def. Emmanuel 78-61 and def. Bates 66-57
#   18   George Fox (12-1) won at Willamette 68-37 and won at Linfield 56-47
#   19   Baldwin-Wallace (13-1) won at Otterbein 84-70 and def. Muskingum 78-54
#   20   Lake Forest (10-1) won at Monmouth 81-51 and won at Grinnell 76-48
#   21   Medaille (11-1) won at Lake Erie 69-60 and def. Pitt-Greensburg 69-68
#   22   Rochester (11-1) won at Geneseo 63-37, def. Roberts Wesleyan 88-53 and def. Nazareth 83-46 (Chase tournament, Rochester NY)
#   23   Wilmington (11-3) lost at Ohio Northern 66-51 and def. Mount Union 64-56
#   24   Capital (10-3) won at Mount Union 67-55 and lost to Ohio Northern 51-48
#   25   Eastern Conn. (11-1) won at Worcester St. 72-59 and lost to #15 Southern Maine 55-50

[aceon2]

do you think maybe the carthage womens team could crack the top 25?

[David Collinge]

HOW THEY FARED (week of Jan. 14-20) (COMPLETE)
      
#   1   Hope (15-0) won at Adrian 75-54 and won at Albion 64-62
#   2   Howard Payne (15-0) def. Texas Lutheran 102-22 and def. Schreiner 79-27
#   3   NYU (13-1) won at Hunter 54-36, lost at #21 Rochester 62-55, and won at Carnegie Mellon 50-38
#   4   UW-Whitewater (15-1) def. UW-Stout 93-72
#   5   Mary Washington (14-1) won at Marymount 68-56 and def. Wesley 82-58
#   6   Thomas More (15-0) def. Geneva 56-34 and won at Chatham 70-34
#   7   Messiah (13-2) lost to #11 Kean 69-64
#   8   McMurry (13-1) def. Concordia-Austin 81-66 and def. Mary Hardin-Baylor 66-44
#   9   Simpson (14-1) def. Loras 77-54
#   10   UW-Stevens Point (15-1) def. UW-Stout 85-68 and def. UW-Superior 83-38
#   11   Kean (15-1) def. New Jersey 60-44 and won at #7 Messiah 69-64
#   12   Randolph-Macon (11-1) won at Randolph 72-52 and lost to Virginia Wesleyan 48-43
#   13   DePauw (13-3) won at Colorado Coll. 70-63 and won at Austin 69-64
#   14   Tufts (13-1) lost to #22 Amherst 64-62 and def. Trinity (CT) 74-52
#   15   Southern Maine (14-1) def. Rhode Island Coll. 77-50 and def. Western Conn. 68-56
#   16   George Fox (14-1) def. Lewis & Clark 58-41 and won at Pacific 74-53
#   17   Baldwin-Wallace (14-2) lost to John Carroll 80-73 and won at Marietta 77-56
#   18   Illinois Wesleyan (12-2) won at Augustana 85-60 and def. Wheaton (IL) 65-52
#   19   Lake Forest (11-2) won at Ripon 57-45 and lost at St Norbert 84-82
#   20   Medaille (13-1) def. Penn St.-Behrend 52-26 and won at Penn St.-Altoona 77-54
#   21   Rochester (13-1) def. #3 NYU 62-55 and def. Brandeis 77-61
#   22   Amherst (16-0) won at Wesleyan 76-71, won at #14 Tufts 64-62, and won at Bates 78-69
#   23   William Smith (11-1) def. Ithaca 58-47, won at RPI 92-68 and won at Vassar 69-36
#   24   Cortland St. (10-1) won at Potsdam St. 80-61 and won at Plattsburgh St. 62-47
#   25   Puget Sound (12-3) def. Whitman 61-51 and def. Whitworth 65-56

[David Collinge]

HOW THEY FARED, interim edition:

Monday games for Top 25 teams:
#8 McMurry plays at Hardin-Simmons
#9 Simpson plays at Central
#20 Medaille plays at Hilbert

[Ralph Turner]

HOW THEY FARED, interim edition:

Monday games for Top 25 teams:
#8 McMurry plays at Hardin-Simmons

McMurry men and women versus Hardin-Simmons at HSU and here,  here, and here.

This is a really good rivalry, and may be the best intra-city rivalry in D3.

The HSU crowd has traditionally supported the women more than the men.

In any case, I expect a loud and large crowd at HSU tomorrow night.

Women play at 5:30 pm CST; the men at 7:30 pm.

[Ralph Turner]

I am glad to see Hardin-Simmons earning votes.

Coach Briggs added 10 new players this season, and the Cowgirls are just now getting to know one another.

If they did not have HPU and McMurry in the same division, they would probably win the ASC.

The early season road loss to Trinity (2nd night of the season) and the early season blowout by McMurry on the road can be attributed to a new squad!