Pool C

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Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan)

Quote from: ronk on January 31, 2022, 02:16:09 PM
Well then, what other rules aren't going to be enforced? Get them out of the handbook.

I believe the submission of schedule is not something done at the beginning of the year, but at the end of their run in conference.  What it's meant to prevent is a team going out in the first round of the conference tournament and then scheduling another game or two before selection day to boost the resume.

My understanding, anyway, is that the schedule for consideration is the one that comes once the regular season ends.
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ronk

 That would be more plausible.

Dave 'd-mac' McHugh

That is basically the reason for those types of reads. In the spring, there tends to be conference tournaments earlier than the end of the season and a lot of monkeying around takes place.

On today's Hoopsville we had Craig Dagan on the show. He's on Region 1's RAC in WBB as coach of Maine Maritime. They had just had their mock rankings today. And chatting with him that pretty much confirms rankings will be out on Tuesday.

In the past, RACs met on Tuesdays with the national committee meeting on Wednesday and the rankings released Wednesday afternoons.

As I've said before, that has shifted to Mondays and Tuesdays now. Dagan feels the rankings will be out next Tuesday.

Again, there are times the handbooks don't get updated items that either hardly ever change or anyone notices. This likely is one of those scenarios.
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UPDATE: I am told by the committee chair women are staying on Wednesdays for Regional Rankings release. We will talk more about this on Thursday's show with the chair and men's chair.
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After several weeks of midday shows, we are back to our regularly scheduled time of 7:00 PM ET - and we are super-sizing the show tonight to make up for not being able to be on air Thursday AND the craziness that has happened in the last week!



Today is a day we celebrate those we love and for many of us that includes the student-athletes, coaches, administrators, and programs in Division III.

On Monday's Hoopsville, we super-size the show to cover everything that has happened in the last week while also trying to look ahead at conference tournaments which start soon. After all, we are just two weeks away from talking about who is in or out of the NCAA Tournaments.

Plus, we look at the latest Top 25 polls which will be released Monday evening and react to the men's poll which will clearly undergo some shakeup.

Guests included:

  • Jenna Cosgrove, Rhode Island women's coach
  • Jon VanderWal, No. 2 Marietta men's coach
  • Lance Thornhill, Fontbonne men's coach
  • James Wallace, LeTourneau men's coach
  • Keri Carollo, No. 7 UW Whitewater women's coach
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PauldingLightUP

Regional Rankings are out, but I can only get the stat sheet for Region I right now.

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The countdown is on! Ten more days until the regular season comes to a close and we find out who will be playing for the Walnut and Bronze!



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Guests include:
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    • Michael Schauer, No. 11 Wheaton (Ill.) coach
    • Megan Wilson, Luther Associate Athletics Director
  • Brendan Twomey, Farmingdale State men's coach
  • Greg Mitchell, Hope men's coach
  • Nick DiPillo, No. 17 Scranton women's coach
  • Michelle Ferenz, No. 6 Whitman women's coach
We had scheduled to talk to Christine VanHook from PSU-Behrend women's basketball, but there was a last minute scheduling conflict. We hope to catch up with Coach VanHook in the next week.

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Baldini

Based on last week's regional rankings, a not so SWAG at the Pool C.

Region 1 - Amherst, Tufts, Trinity (Conn.) - the two that do not win the NESCAC (2)

Region 2 - Springfield, Babson (2)

Region 3 - (0)

Region 4 - (0)

Region 5 - Johns Hopkins, Catholic (2)

Region 6 - (0)

Region 7 - Hope/Trine loser, Baldwin Wallace, Marietta, Oberlin, Otterbein (5)

Region 8 - Carroll (1)

Region 9 - UW-EC, Wartburg, Loras, UW-Oshkosh, Augsburg/Gustavus Adolphus loser (5)

Region 10 - East Texas Baptist, UC-Santa Cruz, Hardin-Simmons (3)

Who should be in that isn't and who should be out that is listed as in?   

scottiedawg

(I'm new at predicting Pool C bids, so go easy on me!)

Region 1
mostly agreed.
Maybe St. Joseph's Maine or Husson could be in the convo?

Region 2
Agree on Springfield. I might put WPI ahead of Babson? Very close there.

Region 3
Agreed

Region 4
Agreed

Region 5
Agreed on the top 2. I think E-town, Salisbury, York could be in the convo

Region 6
I think Berea is a Pool C

Region 7
Agreed on Hope/Trine loser, and on BW, Marietta.
I think Otterbein is right on the bubble, with OWU next up from this region. I think Oberlin is pretty far out.

Region 8
Agreed

Region 9
Wartburg and Oshkosh are my top 2 Pool C. Next EC on the bubble.
I think the loser of Augburg/Gustavus is on the outside looking in, esp if it's Gustavus.

Region 10
Agreed on ETBU and HSU.
Personally I would hope Santa Cruz gets in. I have no idea how they're viewed. Only 8-3 vs D3. Does that matter? the few games?
But excellent SOS, and 2 wins vRRO.


In general I think your picks are spot on.

I am seeing more from Region 5 and fewer from 9 and 10 than you are.

MrMaus

Reg   Team           Conf           C Rnk
R01   Amherst           NESCAC   1
R07   Hope           MIAA   2
R09   UW-Oshkosh   WIAC   3
R02   Springfield   NEWMAC   4
R05   Johns Hopkins   CC           5
R09   UW-Eau Claire   WIAC   6
R05   Elizabethtown   LAND   7
R07   Baldwin Wallace   OAC           8
R01   Trinity (Conn.)   NESCAC   9
R05   Catholic           LAND   10
R02   Babson           NEWMAC   11
R05   Salisbury           C2C           12
R07   Marietta           OAC           13
R10   East Texas Bap   ASC           14
R09   Wartburg           ARC           15
R05   York (Pa.)           MACC   16
R06   Mary Wash   C2C           17
R10   Puget Sound   NWC           18
R02   WPI                   NEWMAC   19
R10   Hardin-Simmon   ASC           20
R01   Husson           NAC           21
R03   Hartwick           E8           22
R01   Bates           NESCAC   23
R07   Oberlin           NCAC   24
R03   SUNY New Paltz   SUNYAC   25

https://tomaroonandgold.blogspot.com/p/division-iii-womens-basketball-regional.html

Using Matt Snyder's work the above are the top 25 "C" pool teams. This assumes there is an "A" team ahead for each of these conferences (for example Tufts is the NESCAC auto-bid, therefore Amherst shows up as the first "C" team from Region 1).

Given there will be upsets in the conference tournaments, where an "A" team loses but still deserves a "C" spot, we should assume 15-ish of these teams get an invite and those 5 upset winners, who are not in the top 25 "C" teams listed above, are added to the tournament.

scottiedawg

My reverse engineering skills could be off, but Snyder's Rating appears to be WP weighted 35% and SOS weighted 65%.

I think the committee puts more weight on WP than SOS. And takes into account record vRRO.