Pool C

[deiscanton]

Thanks for posting this link. I've seen a lot of games in the East Region and was curious to see the standings - it seems like there is overwhelming support for the SUNY conference with 4 of the 8 teams ranked being from that one conference.  The only other region that seems to have something similar to this is the NESCAC and they don't even occupy half of the standings, they are 5 of 12 ranked teams...surprising because the SUNY Conference isn't necessarily a powerhouse conference. Buffalo State, ranked #8, is 14-10 and 1-6 in region having lost their last 3 games...wile the Liberty League has only 2 teams ranked and the Empire8 1 team in the standings (St. Lawrence from the Liberty league is 16-7 and 2-3 in region and are 10-2 over the last 12 games with wins against Ithaca and Vassar who are both ranked). Seems like there should be more consideration for other leagues. That last ranked spot for Buffalo State is giving the other SUNY teams wins in region. Nazareth of the Empire8 beat Buffalo State by 12 head to head and is 16-8 overall. I'm curious to know how Buffalo State was selected for the #8 spot and who decides these rankings for each region?

The regional advisory committees for each region recommend rankings to the National Committee, but the National Committee has the final say each week in these rankings.  The chairs of each RAC are members of the National Committee, and these chairs do not vote on the rankings at the RAC's draft recommendation stage.  The RAC chairs meet as a group after each individual RAC makes its recommendation to check if adjustments need to be made prior to publication of the regional rankings.

Just a caveat.  For primary criteria ranking purposes, Buffalo State is 14-9 vs d3, for a winning pct of .609.  The 10th loss only counts if you need to go to secondary criteria.

Also, Buffalo State has a SOS over .500, while St Lawrence and Nazareth have SOS's under .500.

Buffalo State is not getting in as a Pool C.  They are ranked #8 in the East because somebody has to be ranked #8 in the East.

[deiscanton]

To follow up on my last post--

For purposes of Week 2 rankings

1.) Buffalo State-- .609 W/L pct, SOS of .526, 1-6 v RRO

(ignore game vs non d3 Bryant & Stratton).

2.). St Lawrence-- .696 w/l pct, SOS of .481, 2-3 v RRO

3.). Nazareth-- .667 w/l pct, SOS of .452, 2-0 v RRO.

None of these teams have a high w/l pct or a high SOS for Pool C selection-- all 3 of those teams would need to win the AQ to get in to the NCAAs.

Remember, if a team is regionally ranked next week, that team is regionally ranked for selection purposes, and results against a team regionally ranked next week count for Pool C selection purposes as well.

[Ron Boerger]

... I'm curious to know how Buffalo State was selected for the #8 spot and who decides these rankings for each region?

I typed a long drawn-out answer but deiscanton did a better job, so off the bit-bucket it goes. 

This is a pretty weak region overall; Buffalo State wouldn't sniff the regional rankings in most of them, but due to the way teams in D3 are spread out, the regional ranking method is used by the NCAA across most sports (exceptions would be things like track/field or swimming where you pick participants based on absolute times).   When it comes to selecting Pool C participants, the top remaining teams from each region are evaluated and the best one is selected, promoting the next team in that region to the "top of the table" to be compared with the other top regional teams the next round, rinse and repeat until all the Pool C bids are exhausted.   So everyone above Buffalo State in the East would have to be in the playoffs (either as an auto-bid conference winner, or as a Pool C selection through the evaluation process above) for them to even be considered, and in the unlikely event that happened, their resume wouldn't weigh up against the teams in the other regions with much stronger results.

[actionBB]

Thanks, deiscanton for the information.  I didn't realize SOS was a large part of the equation but that makes sense. I'm still surprised their aren't better overall qualifiers as a whole.  Is Buffalo State the highest RPI in the east region? I just imagined that having Buffalo State ranked makes the other teams in that conference look like they are beating a regional opponent and why not give those wins to another conference. Thanks for the lengthy explanation.

[Pat Coleman]

D-III doesn't use an RPI. The lack of interregional play and the fact that we have fewer non-conference games than D-I makes an RPI equation a little less useful.

Side note: Have always wanted someone at RPI to come up with an RPI that works for D-III.

Buff State won't be considered as a regionally ranked opponent until they start to work on next week's rankings.

[Dave 'd-mac' McHugh]

The second Regional Rankings are out, conference races are finishing up while some tournaments have begun. The frenetic finish to the regular season has begun.

On Thursday's Hoopsville, we chat to a few teams who are either leading their conference standings or could shake them up in their final scheduled games. Plus, a true #whyd3 way of approaching the season - giving back to the community while playing the game.

Guests Schedule (order subject to change):
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- Matt Hunter, York (Pa.) men's coach
- Kevin Broderick, Nazareth men's coach
- Shanan Rosenberg, Linfield men's coach

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[ronk]

D-III doesn't use an RPI. The lack of interregional play and the fact that we have fewer non-conference games than D-I makes an RPI equation a little less useful.

Side note: Have always wanted someone at RPI to come up with an RPI that works for D-III.

Buff State won't be considered as a regionally ranked opponent until they start to work on next week's rankings.

Sounds like a good senior thesis topic; winner is named to the D3 All-Academic team.   

[Dave 'd-mac' McHugh]

There is just one week left in the regular season and with it comes conference chaos.

Some conference tournaments are already underway and have seen upsets. It will be the theme of the week. With conference tournaments come upsets. Those upsets will cause teams on the NCAA tournament bubble to have their hopes burst. And there will be some Cinderellas who will capture the headlines.

Could it be any more fun?

Sunday on Hoopsville (starting at a special earlier time) we chat with a few programs who are either looking to avoid the conference chaos or be a part of it.

Plus, there is changes coming to the way we look at the current regional structure. How the process started and flowed for the last 18 or more months. And what you can expect it all to look in the future.

Guests Schedule (order subject to change):
- Pat Devaney, Sr., NJCU women's coach
- Brad Bankston, ODAC Commissioner
- Josh Merkel, No. 2 Randolph-Macon men's coach
- Ashlee Rogers, Marymount women's coach
- Jeff Gard, No. 7 UW Platteville men's coach
- Bob Quillman & Ryan Scott, Top 25 Double-Take 

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[Ron Boerger]

waiting for latest regional rankings when men had theirs released (twice, LOL) yesterday 

[gordonmann]

Yeah. Men moved to a Tuesday release and women stayed on a Wednesday cycle.

[PauldingLightUP]

Regional rankings are out and data sheets are updated!

https://www.ncaa.com/rankings/basketball-women/d3/regional-rankings-0

[Dave 'd-mac' McHugh]

Always nice to give us some love: https://www.d3hoops.com/notables/2020/02/women-regional-rankings-third

[PauldingLightUP]

I'm sorry Dave, I didn't see it updated on d3hoops.com site yet otherwise I would've linked there. Must have just been seconds apart.

[Dave 'd-mac' McHugh]

I'm sorry Dave, I didn't see it updated on d3hoops.com site yet otherwise I would've linked there. Must have just been seconds apart.

All good ... it usually takes us a couple of minutes to turn them around.

[Dave 'd-mac' McHugh]

The race for conference championships and automatic bids to the NCAA tournaments is nearly at it's peak. In less than 72 hours, we will know who have punched their tickets to the 'dance' and who sits on the edge of their seat hoping to keep playing in March.

Thursday night on Hoopsville, we not only recap what has already happened in conference tournaments across Division III, but we also look ahead at what should be an exciting final weekend of the regular season. Conference champions crowned, upsets, and those who's hopes to still playing will see their bubbles burst.

We also talk to both national committee chairs about the work left ahead of them, what they hope people understand about the process, and how they see bracketing coming together. Plus, we look ahead at the second annual Beyond Sports & WBCA Division III Women's All-Star Game and championship weekend.

Guests Schedule (order subject to change):
- Dixie Jeffers, Capital women's coach (WBCA Center Court)
- Karin Harvey, Montclair State women's coach & DIII Women's National Committee Chair
- Sam Atkinson, Gallaudet Assoc. Dir. of Communications & DIII Men's National Committee Chair

Hoopsville is presented by D3hoops.com and airs from the WBCA/NABC Studio. You can watch Sunday's show LIVE starting at 6:30 pm ET in the following ways:
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Monday's show primarily covers the Atlantic, Central, South, and Northeast Regions. All men's coaches appear in the NABC Coach's Corner. And all guests are featured on the BlueFrame Technology Hoopsville Hotline.

Thursday's show will feature a women's coach in the WBCA Center Court segment. All men's coaches appear in the NABC Coach's Corner. And all guests are featured on the BlueFrame Technology Hoopsville Hotline.

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Please also consider helping us out. We are accepting donations to the show - which many of you have asked about. We have updated the goal to $7,500 by Monday night. We are approximately at $4,097.52 at the time of this posting.

We will be raising the goal after tonight!

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