Pool C

[scottiedawg]

Regarding HSU beating ETBU & Texas Dallas beating Mary Hardin-Baylor, I think this is a full-blown Bid Thief situation. With tonight's impressive win over ETBU, Hardin-Simmons might have moved up off the bubble into the Pool C probables. But Texas Dallas absolutely needs a Pool A bid.

[Baldini]

This is 18, leaving 2 more spots for bubble busters. 

Region 1 - Amherst, Tufts, Trinity (Conn.) - the two that do not win the NESCAC (2)

Region 2 - Springfield, Babson (2)

Region 3 - (0)

Region 4 - (0)

Region 5 - Johns Hopkins, Catholic, Elizabethtown (3)

Region 6 - (0)

Region 7 - Hope/Trine loser, DePauw, Baldwin Wallace/John Carroll loser, Marietta (4)

Region 8 - (0)

Region 9 - UW-WW, Wartburg, UW-Oshkosh (3)

Region 10 - MHBU, East Texas Baptist, Hardin-Simmons, UC-Santa Cruz (4)

[Riley Zayas]

Regarding HSU beating ETBU & Texas Dallas beating Mary Hardin-Baylor, I think this is a full-blown Bid Thief situation. With tonight's impressive win over ETBU, Hardin-Simmons might have moved up off the bubble into the Pool C probables. But Texas Dallas absolutely needs a Pool A bid.

For sure...UTD is playing for its season and it showed today. Both UMHB and ETBU seem to deserve at-large bids, but now either HSU or UTD will also get in. Does ASC warrant 3 tournament teams? And if not, who gets the at-large bid? UMHB and ETBU split the season series, both have a loss to UTD, and ETBU lost on its home floor in conference tournament. A lot of similarities. Massey had ETBU at 33 and UMHB at 57 entering tonight.

[Riley Zayas]

Also liking the matchup between Catholic and Scranton in the Landmark Championship...I like what I've seen of Catholic lately, and was surprised to see Scranton play their starters for as long as they did in the semifinal win...Catholic used the bench a bit more which I think could benefit them...Scranton is still the clear favorite obviously but Catholic seems to be back on track.

[Augie2020]

Always tough to beat a team 3 times in a year.So it will be a great game. On Starters he uses his starters alot but he get 10 players sometimes 12 in a game like Catholic.So it should be another great Landmark Championship they have met the last 3 Championships

[saratoga]

It won't surprise me in the least if Catholic comes out the winner in the Landmark.
As Augie points out, it's pretty tough to defeat a very good team 3 straight...and Catholic is well-coached & seems to be playing with house money right now.
That said, if Scranton plays to their potential, they will win their 7th. straight conference title and host next weekend.
Hope it's a great game like the first two were.

[VT-Alum-NOVA]

HSU winning probably crushed UCSC's Pool C hopes.

UCSC needs to hop both Redlands and HSU to really have a Pool C shot, and while they might hop Redlands, I think that's as high as they'd get in Region 10.

Santa Cruz could have the strongest SOS in all of D3 AND 4 wins v RRO. I think they deserve a Pool C bid. Impressive win against Salisbury.

Kean and MWU have similar, but worse resumes to UCSC, and both rank 4th in their respective regions. Unfortunately for UCSC they play in a stronger region than Kean or MWU do.

UCSC is deserving and on bubble because of lack of D3 games which is not their fault due to being so geo isolated.  I see them providing another still test to CNU today and sure win over Whit and close games with CNU will be in discussion when committee looks at pool C.

[Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan)]

I think Santa Cruz is going to win today. Then it won't matter.

[Baldini]

Regarding HSU beating ETBU & Texas Dallas beating Mary Hardin-Baylor, I think this is a full-blown Bid Thief situation. With tonight's impressive win over ETBU, Hardin-Simmons might have moved up off the bubble into the Pool C probables. But Texas Dallas absolutely needs a Pool A bid.

For sure...UTD is playing for its season and it showed today. Both UMHB and ETBU seem to deserve at-large bids, but now either HSU or UTD will also get in. Does ASC warrant 3 tournament teams? And if not, who gets the at-large bid? UMHB and ETBU split the season series, both have a loss to UTD, and ETBU lost on its home floor in conference tournament. A lot of similarities. Massey had ETBU at 33 and UMHB at 57 entering tonight.

If UTD wins the AQ there will be serious discussion for 4 teams from the ARC.

[Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan)]

Regarding HSU beating ETBU & Texas Dallas beating Mary Hardin-Baylor, I think this is a full-blown Bid Thief situation. With tonight's impressive win over ETBU, Hardin-Simmons might have moved up off the bubble into the Pool C probables. But Texas Dallas absolutely needs a Pool A bid.

For sure...UTD is playing for its season and it showed today. Both UMHB and ETBU seem to deserve at-large bids, but now either HSU or UTD will also get in. Does ASC warrant 3 tournament teams? And if not, who gets the at-large bid? UMHB and ETBU split the season series, both have a loss to UTD, and ETBU lost on its home floor in conference tournament. A lot of similarities. Massey had ETBU at 33 and UMHB at 57 entering tonight.

If UTD wins the AQ there will be serious discussion for 4 teams from the ARC.

That would be the ultimate bracketing problem.  Four teams within driving distance who can't play in the first round.  They better hope Trinity loses their tourney final, then you'd at least have six within driving distance and you wouldn't have to fly anyone in.

[Riley Zayas]

Regarding HSU beating ETBU & Texas Dallas beating Mary Hardin-Baylor, I think this is a full-blown Bid Thief situation. With tonight's impressive win over ETBU, Hardin-Simmons might have moved up off the bubble into the Pool C probables. But Texas Dallas absolutely needs a Pool A bid.

For sure...UTD is playing for its season and it showed today. Both UMHB and ETBU seem to deserve at-large bids, but now either HSU or UTD will also get in. Does ASC warrant 3 tournament teams? And if not, who gets the at-large bid? UMHB and ETBU split the season series, both have a loss to UTD, and ETBU lost on its home floor in conference tournament. A lot of similarities. Massey had ETBU at 33 and UMHB at 57 entering tonight.

If UTD wins the AQ there will be serious discussion for 4 teams from the ARC.

That would be the ultimate bracketing problem.  Four teams within driving distance who can't play in the first round.  They better hope Trinity loses their tourney final, then you'd at least have six within driving distance and you wouldn't have to fly anyone in.

Absolutely. I know the committee tries to eliminate the possibility of conference opponents playing in the first round, but it may have to happen...I will say, Rhodes is barely in the 600 mile zone from Belton, 300 from Marshall (ETBU) but 730 from Trinity. I am thinking we could see Rhodes put into a Texas pod in order to get a Region 6 team there. But Rhodes could go pretty much anywhere because of their geography or host.

[Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan)]

No conference games in the first round is set in stone, as far as I know. They'll do extra flights to prevent it. Second round conference games are what they sacrifice to geography.

[Baldini]

An island bracket with MHBU hosting Trinity, Rhodes and one of HSU, East Texas Baptist or Texas-Dallas would work. No? 

[y_jack_lok]

Looking for an opinion. If the currently undefeated Webster women lose their conference final tonight to Westminster (MO), they will finish 24-1. They are not regionally ranked and have a very weak SOS. Would they have any shot at a Pool C bid? From what I've been reading/hearing about the way the NCAA does it's selections, I think the answer is NO. What do others say?

[Baldini]

Looking for an opinion. If the currently undefeated Webster women lose their conference final tonight to Westminster (MO), they will finish 24-1. They are not regionally ranked and have a very weak SOS. Would they have any shot at a Pool C bid? From what I've been reading/hearing about the way the NCAA does it's selections, I think the answer is NO. What do others say?

If Webster wants to go dancing, they probably need to win against Westminster (MO).