Pool C

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MrMaus

Quote from: ronk on February 27, 2022, 06:49:44 PM
Looking at the ranking 1-16 from the 1st regional rankings and adjusting for losses since then, the probable #1 seed in each quadrant would be CNU, Transylvania, Simpson, and Smith or Scranton. Of course, changes in vrro for the new unreleased regional rankings might affect the order.

My guess (in no particular order):
1 seeds - CNU, Transylvania, Simpson and Smith
2 seeds - Scranton, NYU, Hope, Amherst
Next 8 - Tufts, UW-Whitewater, Trine, Gettysburg, Ithaca, Messiah, DePauw, Whitman

Not sure if Whitman gets to host so it might be MHB

Baldini

Quote from: MrMaus on February 27, 2022, 08:19:42 PM
Quote from: ronk on February 27, 2022, 06:49:44 PM
Looking at the ranking 1-16 from the 1st regional rankings and adjusting for losses since then, the probable #1 seed in each quadrant would be CNU, Transylvania, Simpson, and Smith or Scranton. Of course, changes in vrro for the new unreleased regional rankings might affect the order.

My guess (in no particular order):
1 seeds - CNU, Transylvania, Simpson and Smith
2 seeds - Scranton, NYU, Hope, Amherst
Next 8 - Tufts, UW-Whitewater, Trine, Gettysburg, Ithaca, Messiah, DePauw, Whitman

Not sure if Whitman gets to host so it might be MHB

Someone will probably host in Texas, but I think the MHB men are scheduled to host. So, the MHB women probably travel.   

scottiedawg

the scuttlebutt is indeed that the MHB men will host 1st round, meaning the women cannot.  We'll see what happens!

Riley Zayas

Quote from: Baldini on February 27, 2022, 08:25:06 PM
Quote from: MrMaus on February 27, 2022, 08:19:42 PM
Quote from: ronk on February 27, 2022, 06:49:44 PM
Looking at the ranking 1-16 from the 1st regional rankings and adjusting for losses since then, the probable #1 seed in each quadrant would be CNU, Transylvania, Simpson, and Smith or Scranton. Of course, changes in vrro for the new unreleased regional rankings might affect the order.

My guess (in no particular order):
1 seeds - CNU, Transylvania, Simpson and Smith
2 seeds - Scranton, NYU, Hope, Amherst
Next 8 - Tufts, UW-Whitewater, Trine, Gettysburg, Ithaca, Messiah, DePauw, Whitman

Not sure if Whitman gets to host so it might be MHB

Someone will probably host in Texas, but I think the MHB men are scheduled to host. So, the MHB women probably travel.

Highly doubt UMHB men will host. Not enough teams in driving range. Trinity got SCAC auto bid so that's 2 in TX, but outside of that they'd have to fly 2 in...Women's side there are about 5 teams in driving distance, though 3 are from ASC
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MrMaus

For Pool C:

I have these 14 in:
Amherst, Tufts, UW-Whitewater, Trine, DePauw, Mary Hardin-Baylor, Springfield, Millikin, East Texas Baptist, Babson, Johns Hopkins, John Carroll, UW-Oshkosh, Wartburg

And these 12 for the last 6 spots:
Cortland, Stevens, Washington and Lee, Trinity (Conn.), Mary Washington, Elizabethtown, Carroll, Catholic, Marietta, Loras, Salisbury, UC Santa Cruz

Riley Zayas

Quote from: MrMaus on February 27, 2022, 09:33:07 PM
For Pool C:

I have these 14 in:
Amherst, Tufts, UW-Whitewater, Trine, DePauw, Mary Hardin-Baylor, Springfield, Millikin, East Texas Baptist, Babson, Johns Hopkins, John Carroll, UW-Oshkosh, Wartburg

And these 12 for the last 6 spots:
Cortland, Stevens, Washington and Lee, Trinity (Conn.), Mary Washington, Elizabethtown, Carroll, Catholic, Marietta, Loras, Salisbury, UC Santa Cruz

From that group of 12 for the last six spots, I think it highly likely we see Trinity (Conn.), Marietta, and Mary Washington all get in. I like UCSC but they might be the 19th or 20th team off the board if they get in.
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Quote from: True To The Cru on February 27, 2022, 08:44:47 PM
Quote from: Baldini on February 27, 2022, 08:25:06 PM
Quote from: MrMaus on February 27, 2022, 08:19:42 PM
Quote from: ronk on February 27, 2022, 06:49:44 PM
Looking at the ranking 1-16 from the 1st regional rankings and adjusting for losses since then, the probable #1 seed in each quadrant would be CNU, Transylvania, Simpson, and Smith or Scranton. Of course, changes in vrro for the new unreleased regional rankings might affect the order.

My guess (in no particular order):
1 seeds - CNU, Transylvania, Simpson and Smith
2 seeds - Scranton, NYU, Hope, Amherst
Next 8 - Tufts, UW-Whitewater, Trine, Gettysburg, Ithaca, Messiah, DePauw, Whitman

Not sure if Whitman gets to host so it might be MHB

Someone will probably host in Texas, but I think the MHB men are scheduled to host. So, the MHB women probably travel.

Highly doubt UMHB men will host. Not enough teams in driving range. Trinity got SCAC auto bid so that's 2 in TX, but outside of that they'd have to fly 2 in...Women's side there are about 5 teams in driving distance, though 3 are from ASC
Depends on who has priority this year. Either men or women get priority the first weekend with the other getting the 2nd weekend I believe. Then they swap the following year.
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Quote from: FCGrizzliesGrad on February 27, 2022, 10:42:12 PM
Quote from: True To The Cru on February 27, 2022, 08:44:47 PM
Quote from: Baldini on February 27, 2022, 08:25:06 PM
Quote from: MrMaus on February 27, 2022, 08:19:42 PM
Quote from: ronk on February 27, 2022, 06:49:44 PM
Looking at the ranking 1-16 from the 1st regional rankings and adjusting for losses since then, the probable #1 seed in each quadrant would be CNU, Transylvania, Simpson, and Smith or Scranton. Of course, changes in vrro for the new unreleased regional rankings might affect the order.

My guess (in no particular order):
1 seeds - CNU, Transylvania, Simpson and Smith
2 seeds - Scranton, NYU, Hope, Amherst
Next 8 - Tufts, UW-Whitewater, Trine, Gettysburg, Ithaca, Messiah, DePauw, Whitman

Not sure if Whitman gets to host so it might be MHB

Someone will probably host in Texas, but I think the MHB men are scheduled to host. So, the MHB women probably travel.

Highly doubt UMHB men will host. Not enough teams in driving range. Trinity got SCAC auto bid so that's 2 in TX, but outside of that they'd have to fly 2 in...Women's side there are about 5 teams in driving distance, though 3 are from ASC
Depends on who has priority this year. Either men or women get priority the first weekend with the other getting the 2nd weekend I believe. Then they swap the following year.

Men have priority this year. But I had guessed since UMHB men were not under consideration for hosting (from what I know) that would open up an opportunity for the women to host. No? Who else would host at this point? Guessing Trinity (TX) maybe. Hardin-Simmons seems too out of the way with too poor of a resume for hosting.
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scottiedawg

Quote from: True To The Cru on February 27, 2022, 10:03:55 PM
Quote from: MrMaus on February 27, 2022, 09:33:07 PM
For Pool C:

I have these 14 in:
Amherst, Tufts, UW-Whitewater, Trine, DePauw, Mary Hardin-Baylor, Springfield, Millikin, East Texas Baptist, Babson, Johns Hopkins, John Carroll, UW-Oshkosh, Wartburg

And these 12 for the last 6 spots:
Cortland, Stevens, Washington and Lee, Trinity (Conn.), Mary Washington, Elizabethtown, Carroll, Catholic, Marietta, Loras, Salisbury, UC Santa Cruz

From that group of 12 for the last six spots, I think it highly likely we see Trinity (Conn.), Marietta, and Mary Washington all get in. I like UCSC but they might be the 19th or 20th team off the board if they get in.


I have a real hard time believing the committee will pick those low WP, high SOS teams (Babson, Trinity, UCSC, Mary Washington. Babson eventually overwhelmed with their SOS over .600 and 11 games vs RRO). I hope I'm wrong because i think they're much more deserving than teams like St. Lawrence, Redlands, Washington & Lee. St. Joseph's Maine.

Baldini

If we look at the Pool C and limiting flights, one of Redlands/UC-Santa Cruz might have the inside track for one of the lasts bids. By having a Whittier, Redlands/UC-Santa Cruz, Whitman and one of MHB/ETB/HSU as an opening weekend they can do this with 2 flights. I think.

The opening weekend in Texas would be 2 of MHB/ETB/HSU, Trinity and Rhodes, one of MHB or ETB would need to host.

In the end the money tends to rule D3 decisions. 

Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan)

Quote from: Baldini on February 28, 2022, 10:24:38 AM
If we look at the Pool C and limiting flights, one of Redlands/UC-Santa Cruz might have the inside track for one of the lasts bids. By having a Whittier, Redlands/UC-Santa Cruz, Whitman and one of MHB/ETB/HSU as an opening weekend they can do this with 2 flights. I think.

The opening weekend in Texas would be 2 of MHB/ETB/HSU, Trinity and Rhodes, one of MHB or ETB would need to host.

In the end the money tends to rule D3 decisions.

What it would do, though, is give them a lot more flexibility the second weekend.  It'll be easier to balance the brackets and "risk" an extra flight or two second weekend, because you're only using two the first weekend.
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Baldini

Quote from: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on February 28, 2022, 10:37:52 AM
Quote from: Baldini on February 28, 2022, 10:24:38 AM
If we look at the Pool C and limiting flights, one of Redlands/UC-Santa Cruz might have the inside track for one of the lasts bids. By having a Whittier, Redlands/UC-Santa Cruz, Whitman and one of MHB/ETB/HSU as an opening weekend they can do this with 2 flights. I think.

The opening weekend in Texas would be 2 of MHB/ETB/HSU, Trinity and Rhodes, one of MHB or ETB would need to host.

In the end the money tends to rule D3 decisions.

What it would do, though, is give them a lot more flexibility the second weekend.  It'll be easier to balance the brackets and "risk" an extra flight or two second weekend, because you're only using two the first weekend.

Right. I believe this can be built with a strong likelihood of only 2 flights for the second weekend also.

Baldini

Another possibility would be if both Redlands and UC-Santa Cruz were to get in and one of MHB/ETB/HSU was sent to join the 3 California schools and Whitman sent to Texas. That open HSU up as a host option. Rhodes then would end up at Transylvania. Or Rhodes could still go to Texas leaving Whitman to fly anywhere.

All still 2 flights.   

scottiedawg

Quote from: Baldini on February 28, 2022, 10:24:38 AM
If we look at the Pool C and limiting flights, one of Redlands/UC-Santa Cruz might have the inside track for one of the lasts bids.....

Geography has ZERO impact on selection though right?  Only on hosting/podding/seeding/constructing the bracket post selection?

ronk

Quote from: scottiedawg on February 28, 2022, 12:05:29 PM
Quote from: Baldini on February 28, 2022, 10:24:38 AM
If we look at the Pool C and limiting flights, one of Redlands/UC-Santa Cruz might have the inside track for one of the lasts bids.....

Geography has ZERO impact on selection though right?  Only on hosting/podding/seeding/constructing the bracket post selection?

Theoretically, though the women it is said have been sympathetic to someone sitting at the selection table for an extended time, separate from the official criteria considerations.