Pool C

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scottiedawg

Quote from: ronk on March 01, 2022, 11:40:13 AM
The following comps show UCSC significantly bests Redlands in 2 of the 3 primary criteria, meaning the banana slugs should have been at the table before Redlands and allowing them to be considered for selection

UCSC definitely has a strong resume in spots, and has an extraordinarily unique resume.

Even if you want them above Redlands in those regional rankings, the committee did also move Pacific ahead of UCSC. So UCSC was two spots from being at the table.

VT-Alum-NOVA

I do wonder if moving to 10 regions affected selecting a Pool C team that would have not been selected previously when D3 had less regions.  this is on the assumption that women's committee has "sympathy" for a team on the table for a while.  thoughts?

scottiedawg

Quote from: VT-Alum-NOVA on March 01, 2022, 04:18:59 PM
I do wonder if moving to 10 regions affected selecting a Pool C team that would have not been selected previously when D3 had less regions.  this is on the assumption that women's committee has "sympathy" for a team on the table for a while.  thoughts?

I do not have the history to know, but it was said adamantly on Hoopsville by D3hoops.com folks that especially the women's committee has made decisions in the past because "a team had been at the table for a long time."

IF that is done I think it's a poor choice because you're implicitly placing greater weight on a team being from a weak region. Seems like you'd want to do the opposite.

scottiedawg

There are 5 teams in the tournament that meet all three of these criteria:
At least 5 wins v RRO
The average WP of the teams that were those RRO wins is greater than 0.750
The average SOS of the teams that were those RRO wins is greater than 0.550


Anyone wanna guess the 5?

Flying Dutch Fan

Quote from: scottiedawg on March 02, 2022, 04:00:15 PM
There are 5 teams in the tournament that meet all three of these criteria:
At least 5 wins v RRO
The average WP of the teams that were those RRO wins is greater than 0.750
The average SOS of the teams that were those RRO wins is greater than 0.550


Anyone wanna guess the 5?

Before I would guess, I want to know how you did the math - Option A or Option B

If there are multiple wins versus a single team - do you...

Option A - only inlcude that teams record and SOS once

OR

Option B - you include that teams record and SOS for once for each victory (beat them 3 times, then 3 times their W/L and SOS)?

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scottiedawg

Option B.

And a further clarification, WP is already a percentage, and I simply took an average of those percentages, so whether a team's WP is made up of an 800-200 record or a 4-1 record, it's just the same 0.800 at the end of the day.

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Quote from: scottiedawg on March 02, 2022, 04:23:53 PM
Option B.

And a further clarification, WP is already a percentage, and I simply took an average of those percentages, so whether a team's WP is made up of an 800-200 record or a 4-1 record, it's just the same 0.800 at the end of the day.

So I'm sure Hope and Trine are not in there, was thinking maybe John Carroll - to start
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scottiedawg

Hope misses the SOS cutoff by 0.03.

Trine misses the SOS cutoff by 0.06.

Both meet the other 2 criteria.

These are totally arbitrarily picked thresholds. I just picked seemingly round numbers and was interested to see how many teams met all three.

ronk

Quote from: scottiedawg on March 02, 2022, 04:00:15 PM
There are 5 teams in the tournament that meet all three of these criteria:
At least 5 wins v RRO
The average WP of the teams that were those RRO wins is greater than 0.750
The average SOS of the teams that were those RRO wins is greater than 0.550


Anyone wanna guess the 5?

Guessing Scranton, Simpson, CNU, Eau Claire, and Amherst or Tufts

scottiedawg

Quote from: ronk on March 02, 2022, 05:21:09 PM
Quote from: scottiedawg on March 02, 2022, 04:00:15 PM
There are 5 teams in the tournament that meet all three of these criteria:
At least 5 wins v RRO
The average WP of the teams that were those RRO wins is greater than 0.750
The average SOS of the teams that were those RRO wins is greater than 0.550


Anyone wanna guess the 5?

Guessing Scranton, Simpson, CNU, Eau Claire, and Amherst or Tufts

(Y) Scranton
(N) Simpson (0.542 average SOS among RRO wins)
(N) CNU (0.718 WP)
(Y) Eau Claire
(Y) Amherst
(N) Tufts (0.731 WP)

MrMaus

Quote from: scottiedawg on March 02, 2022, 05:24:19 PM
Quote from: ronk on March 02, 2022, 05:21:09 PM
Quote from: scottiedawg on March 02, 2022, 04:00:15 PM
There are 5 teams in the tournament that meet all three of these criteria:
At least 5 wins v RRO
The average WP of the teams that were those RRO wins is greater than 0.750
The average SOS of the teams that were those RRO wins is greater than 0.550


Anyone wanna guess the 5?

Guessing Scranton, Simpson, CNU, Eau Claire, and Amherst or Tufts

(Y) Scranton
(N) Simpson (0.542 average SOS among RRO wins)
(N) CNU (0.718 WP)
(Y) Eau Claire
(Y) Amherst
(N) Tufts (0.731 WP)

NYU and Smith?

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Quote from: scottiedawg on March 02, 2022, 05:24:19 PM
Quote from: ronk on March 02, 2022, 05:21:09 PM
Quote from: scottiedawg on March 02, 2022, 04:00:15 PM
There are 5 teams in the tournament that meet all three of these criteria:
At least 5 wins v RRO
The average WP of the teams that were those RRO wins is greater than 0.750
The average SOS of the teams that were those RRO wins is greater than 0.550


Anyone wanna guess the 5?

Guessing Scranton, Simpson, CNU, Eau Claire, and Amherst or Tufts

(Y) Scranton
(N) Simpson (0.542 average SOS among RRO wins)
(N) CNU (0.718 WP)
(Y) Eau Claire
(Y) Amherst
(N) Tufts (0.731 WP)
Messiah and Bates?
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#792
(N) NYU (0.644 WP)
(Y) Smith
(N) Messiah (0.543 SOS)
(Y) Bates

there's all 5!

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So now the 2nd set of Regional rankings came out.Region 5 how did Elizabethtown 23-3 drop from 3 to 5th behind Gettysburg 19-6 and Marymount 21-4?Elizabethtown S.O.S .526 vrro is 3-2 Massey(39)Gettysburg S.O.S .551 vrro 4-2.Massey(67)Marymount S.O.S .538 vrro 2-2 Massey(83).Why would ETown drop?