Pool C

Pat Coleman · February 25, 2006, 10:46:31 AM

QOWI through Friday, Feb. 25:

1-10
DePauw    12.158    19-0
Bowdoin    12.143    19-2
Scranton    11.900    20-0
Southern Maine    11.760    24-1
Washington U.    11.722    16-2
Mary Washington    11.435    23-0
Messiah    11.381    20-1
Brandeis    11.273    18-4
Baldwin-Wallace    11.261    22-1
Williams    11.136    18-4

11-20
Randolph-Macon    11.136    21-1
Hope    11.087    22-1
Pacific Lutheran    11.000    16-2
Rochester    11.000    17-6
Bates    10.955    17-5
St. John Fisher    10.833    22-2
Wesleyan    10.727    18-4
Muhlenberg    10.720    23-2
Capital    10.696    20-3
Richard Stockton    10.640    21-4

21-30
Carroll    10.571    17-4
Puget Sound    10.500    19-3
Cortland State    10.480    22-3
Oglethorpe    10.478    19-4
New York University    10.417    18-6
Gwynedd-Mercy    10.400    22-3
Bridgewater (Va.)    10.370    22-5
William Smith    10.364    18-4
Wheaton (Ill.)    10.350    17-3
Medaille    10.348    22-1

31-40
Mount St. Mary    10.320    22-3
Colby-Sawyer    10.308    22-4
Greensboro    10.250    17-3
McMurry    10.250    22-2
Maine-Farmington    10.192    22-4
Springfield    10.167    18-6
St. Lawrence    10.130    19-4
Norwich    10.091    19-3
St. Norbert    10.091    16-6
Baruch    10.087    19-4

41-50
Salem State    10.087    19-4
Emmanuel    10.087    19-4
Illinois Wesleyan    10.045    16-6
St. Benedict    10.043    19-4
Maine Maritime    10.038    22-4
Concordia-Moorhead    10.000    19-5
New Jersey    9.960    18-7
Moravian    9.958    19-5
Howard Payne    9.833    21-3
Maryville (Mo.)    9.813    16-0

51-60
Eastern Connecticut    9.808    20-6
Nebraska Wesleyan    9.800    3-2
Johns Hopkins    9.762    17-4
UW-Stout    9.762    16-5
Wittenberg    9.750    17-7
Mount Holyoke    9.727    17-5
Chicago    9.714    14-7
Franklin    9.708    21-3
Emory    9.700    11-9
Ripon    9.682    14-8

61-70
Simpson    9.667    17-1
UW-Oshkosh    9.667    17-7
UW-Stevens Point    9.667    17-7
Lawrence    9.650    15-5
Calvin    9.647    15-2
Cal Lutheran    9.632    15-4
Trinity (Texas)    9.611    14-4
Union    9.600    17-8
Western New England    9.583    18-6
Oswego State    9.583    19-5

71-80
McDaniel    9.560    19-6
Luther    9.550    17-3
Dickinson    9.542    18-6
Wilmington    9.481    19-8
Claremont-Mudd-Scripps    9.474    15-4
Otterbein    9.440    17-8
Montclair State    9.417    16-8
Chapman    9.400    11-4
Gustavus Adolphus    9.385    19-7
Catholic    9.320    17-8

81-90
Kenyon    9.318    17-5
UW-La Crosse    9.318    14-8
Maryville (Tenn.)    9.292    20-4
Christopher Newport    9.273    14-8
DeSales    9.269    16-10
Hardin-Simmons    9.250    19-5
Endicott    9.240    16-9
Washington and Jefferson    9.238    17-4
Texas-Tyler    9.227    17-5 INELIGIBLE
Clark    9.208    16-8

91-100
Carleton    9.208    17-7
Wesley    9.182    17-5
Virginia Wesleyan    9.182    15-7
SUNY-Farmingdale    9.174    15-8
Hood    9.158    13-6
Rhodes    9.143    15-6
Marymount    9.136    15-7
Mississippi College    9.120    19-6
Salve Regina    9.111    19-8
Pitt-Greensburg    9.087    18-5

101-110
Worcester State    9.083    15-9
William Paterson    9.080    15-10
Denison    9.045    17-5
Piedmont    9.043    17-6
Millikin    9.000    14-8
Bridgewater State    9.000    16-6
George Fox    9.000    11-6
Oneonta State    8.958    17-7
Nichols    8.875    18-6
Worcester Polytech    8.870    15-8

111-120
Keene State    8.833    15-9
Rockford    8.833    18-6
Lakeland    8.818    16-6
RPI    8.818    13-9
Geneseo State    8.818    14-8
Middlebury    8.818    13-9
Concordia (Wis.)    8.792    18-6
Thomas More    8.773    17-5
Fredonia State    8.720    16-9
Elmira    8.700    13-7

Pat Coleman · February 26, 2006, 03:55:45 AM

QOWI THROUGH SATURDAY:

1-10
DePauw    12.300    20-0
Bowdoin    12.273    20-2
Scranton    11.905    21-0
Southern Maine    11.846    25-1
Washington U.    11.684    17-2
Messiah    11.500    21-1
Randolph-Macon    11.304    22-1
Brandeis    11.217    19-4
Hope    11.208    23-1
Pacific Lutheran    11.158    17-2

11-20
Mary Washington    11.125    23-1
Bates    11.087    18-5
Baldwin-Wallace    11.042    22-2
Williams    10.957    18-5
St. John Fisher    10.880    23-2
Capital    10.875    21-3
Muhlenberg    10.846    24-2
Rochester    10.750    18-6
Carroll    10.727    18-4
Richard Stockton    10.640    21-4

21-30
Wesleyan    10.565    18-5
Gwynedd-Mercy    10.538    23-3
Wheaton (Ill.)    10.524    18-3
William Smith    10.522    19-4
Medaille    10.500    23-1
Mount St. Mary    10.385    23-3
Maine-Farmington    10.370    23-4
Colby-Sawyer    10.370    23-4
McMurry    10.360    23-2
Puget Sound    10.348    19-4

31-40
Cortland State    10.346    22-4
Norwich    10.304    20-3
Greensboro    10.286    18-3
Oglethorpe    10.250    19-5
Bridgewater (Va.)    10.250    22-6
Salem State    10.167    20-4
Concordia-Moorhead    10.160    20-5
New York University    10.120    18-7
Baruch    10.087    19-4
Springfield    10.080    19-6

41-50
St. Benedict    10.043    19-4
Johns Hopkins    10.000    18-4
St. Lawrence    10.000    19-5
New Jersey    9.960    18-7
UW-Stout    9.955    17-5
Maryville (Mo.)    9.941    17-0
Emmanuel    9.917    19-5
Illinois Wesleyan    9.913    16-7
Trinity (Texas)    9.895    15-4
Simpson    9.895    18-1

51-60
St. Norbert    9.870    16-7
Moravian    9.840    19-6
Maine Maritime    9.815    22-5
Oswego State    9.800    20-5
Wittenberg    9.750    17-7
Mount Holyoke    9.696    18-5
Ripon    9.682    14-8
UW-Oshkosh    9.667    17-7
Lawrence    9.650    15-5
Cal Lutheran    9.632    15-4

61-70
Eastern Connecticut    9.630    20-7
Union    9.600    17-8
Western New England    9.583    18-6
UW-Stevens Point    9.560    17-8
Howard Payne    9.560    21-4
Franklin    9.560    21-4
Chicago    9.545    14-8
Calvin    9.500    15-3
Wilmington    9.481    19-8
Claremont-Mudd-Scripps    9.474    15-4

71-80
McDaniel    9.462    19-7
Washington and Jefferson    9.455    18-4
Dickinson    9.440    18-7
Otterbein    9.440    17-8
Luther    9.429    17-4
Montclair State    9.417    16-8
Chapman    9.400    11-4
Marymount    9.391    16-7
Gustavus Adolphus    9.385    19-7
Catholic    9.320    17-8

81-90
UW-La Crosse    9.318    14-8
Denison    9.304    18-5
Emory    9.286    11-10
Maryville (Tenn.)    9.280    21-4
Hardin-Simmons    9.250    19-5
Texas-Tyler    9.227    17-5
Kenyon    9.217    17-6
DeSales    9.185    16-11
Christopher Newport    9.182    14-8
Virginia Wesleyan    9.182    15-7

91-100
Endicott    9.154    16-10
Clark    9.120    16-9
Mississippi College    9.120    19-6
Carleton    9.120    17-8
Salve Regina    9.111    19-8
Wesley    9.087    17-6
SUNY-Farmingdale    9.083    15-9
Worcester State    9.083    15-9
William Paterson    9.080    15-10
Hood    9.050    14-6

101-110
Lakeland    9.043    17-6
Nebraska Wesleyan    9.000    3-3
Rhodes    9.000    15-7
Pitt-Greensburg    9.000    18-6
Millikin    9.000    14-8
George Fox    9.000    11-6
Oneonta State    8.958    17-7
Bridgewater State    8.913    16-7
Keuka    8.900    13-7
Rockford    8.880    19-6

111-120
Keene State    8.833    15-9
Middlebury    8.818    13-9
Geneseo State    8.818    14-8
RPI    8.818    13-9
Nichols    8.792    18-6
Piedmont    8.783    17-6
Fredonia State    8.720    16-9
Concordia (Wis.)    8.720    18-7
UW-Eau Claire    8.696    12-11
Thomas More    8.696    17-6

Pat Coleman · February 26, 2006, 07:53:36 PM

And through Sunday. Oh look, there goes a tumbleweed!

DePauw    12.429    21-0
Bowdoin    12.391    21-2
Scranton    11.905    21-0
Southern Maine    11.846    25-1
Washington U.    11.684    17-2
Messiah    11.500    21-1
Randolph-Macon    11.304    22-1
Brandeis    11.217    19-4
Hope    11.208    23-1
Pacific Lutheran    11.158    17-2

11-20
Mary Washington    11.125    23-1
Baldwin-Wallace    11.042    22-2
Muhlenberg    10.963    25-2
Williams    10.957    18-5
St. John Fisher    10.880    23-2
Capital    10.875    21-3
Bates    10.875    18-6
Rochester    10.750    18-6
Carroll    10.727    18-4
Richard Stockton    10.640    21-4

21-30
Wesleyan    10.565    18-5
Gwynedd-Mercy    10.538    23-3
Wheaton (Ill.)    10.524    18-3
William Smith    10.522    19-4
Medaille    10.500    23-1
McMurry    10.385    24-2
Mount St. Mary    10.385    23-3
Maine-Farmington    10.370    23-4
Colby-Sawyer    10.370    23-4
Puget Sound    10.348    19-4

31-40
Cortland State    10.346    22-4
Norwich    10.304    20-3
Greensboro    10.286    18-3
Bridgewater (Va.)    10.250    22-6
Oglethorpe    10.250    19-5
Springfield    10.231    20-6
Salem State    10.167    20-4
Concordia-Moorhead    10.160    20-5
New York University    10.120    18-7
Baruch    10.087    19-4

41-50
St. Benedict    10.043    19-4
St. Lawrence    10.000    19-5
New Jersey    9.960    18-7
UW-Stout    9.955    17-5
Maryville (Mo.)    9.941    17-0
Emmanuel    9.917    19-5
Illinois Wesleyan    9.913    16-7
Simpson    9.895    18-1
St. Norbert    9.870    16-7
Johns Hopkins    9.870    18-5

51-60
Moravian    9.840    19-6
Maine Maritime    9.815    22-5
Oswego State    9.800    20-5
Trinity (Texas)    9.750    15-5
Wittenberg    9.750    17-7
Ripon    9.682    14-8
UW-Oshkosh    9.667    17-7
Lawrence    9.650    15-5
Cal Lutheran    9.632    15-4
Eastern Connecticut    9.630    20-7

61-70
Union    9.600    17-8
Western New England    9.583    18-6
Mount Holyoke    9.583    18-6
UW-Stevens Point    9.560    17-8
Howard Payne    9.560    21-4
Chicago    9.545    14-8
Calvin    9.500    15-3
Wilmington    9.481    19-8
Claremont-Mudd-Scripps    9.474    15-4
McDaniel    9.462    19-7

71-80
Franklin    9.458    21-4
Washington and Jefferson    9.455    18-4
Otterbein    9.440    17-8
Dickinson    9.440    18-7
Luther    9.429    17-4
Montclair State    9.417    16-8
Chapman    9.400    11-4
Marymount    9.391    16-7
Gustavus Adolphus    9.385    19-7
Catholic    9.320    17-8

81-90
UW-La Crosse    9.318    14-8
Denison    9.304    18-5
Emory    9.286    11-10
Maryville (Tenn.)    9.280    21-4
Hardin-Simmons    9.250    19-5
Texas-Tyler    9.227    17-5
Kenyon    9.217    17-6
DeSales    9.185    16-11
Christopher Newport    9.182    14-8
Virginia Wesleyan    9.182    15-7

91-100
Endicott    9.154    16-10
Clark    9.120    16-9
Carleton    9.120    17-8
Mississippi College    9.120    19-6
Salve Regina    9.111    19-8
Wesley    9.087    17-6
SUNY-Farmingdale    9.083    15-9
Worcester State    9.083    15-9
William Paterson    9.080    15-10
Hood    9.050    14-6

Pat Coleman · February 26, 2006, 10:14:11 PM

From the official release.

Pool B Berths (4):
   Chapman
   Maryville (Tennessee)
   Rockford
   Washington and Jefferson

Pool C Berths (21):
   Baldwin-Wallace
   Bates
   Brandeis
   Bridgewater (Virginia)
   Calvin
   Cortland State
   Franklin
   Hardin-Simmons
   Howard Payne
   Maine Maritime
   Mary Washington
   Moravian
   New York University
   Oglethorpe

Mr. Ypsi · February 26, 2006, 10:24:40 PM

Pat,

That is only 15, but I have dread in my heart since they seem to be alphabetical, and youy've already gone past IWU.

saratoga · February 26, 2006, 10:26:10 PM

How the heck did NYU get in??? Hard to believe there was not at least 1 other team more deserving than this selection that's been spinning out of control for the better part of 3 weeks.

jagluski · February 26, 2006, 10:29:43 PM

Quote from: Mr. Ypsi on February 26, 2006, 10:24:40 PM
Pat,

That is only 15, but I have dread in my heart since they seem to be alphabetical, and youy've already gone past IWU.

Here are all 21.

Baldwin-Wallace
Bates
Brandeis
Bridgewater (Virginia)
Calvin
Cortland State
Franklin
Hardin-Simmons
Howard Payne
Maine Maritime
Mary Washington
Moravian
New York University
Oglethorpe
Puget Sound
Richard Stockton
Rochester
St. Benedict
Trinity
Wesleyan (Connecticut)
Williams

scorekeeper · February 26, 2006, 10:55:16 PM

Pat, great job on getting everything out so fast. I am thankful for the 21 at large berths this year as I'm sure my St. Benedict Blazers would not have made it without the extra spots.

I noticed that two conferences account for 1/3 of the 21 berths. I'm sure that will get some people talking.

scorekeeper · February 26, 2006, 11:02:03 PM

My bad. My math was wrong. I meant to say that two conferences account for 7 teams in the entire tournament (3 from the UAA and 4 from the Bates conference - I forget the name). Still, 5 at large berths between them. That will still have people talking...especially NYU.

jagluski · February 26, 2006, 11:03:42 PM

Quote from: scorekeeper on February 26, 2006, 11:02:03 PM
My bad. My math was wrong. I meant to say that two conferences account for 7 teams in the entire tournament (3 from the UAA and 4 from the Bates conference - I forget the name). Still, 5 at large berths between them. That will still have people talking...especially NYU.

Try again. The UAA got 4: Wash U, NYU, Rochester, Brandeis

jagluski · February 26, 2006, 11:15:13 PM

While I may not have necessarily picked them, I feel like someone has to defend NYU for a moment.

1) People are saying the last bid came down to NYU or Illinois Wesleyan. NYU has a higher QoWI and a better regional record.

2) NYU lost 5 of its last 6. Yes, this is true, but unlike Division I, one of the criteria is not performance in last ten games. Thus, this shouldn't hurt NYU any more than if they lost 5 games spread out during the season.

3) NYU is 2-4 v. regionally ranked opponents(I think, but I'm not sure about this). They beat Brandeis and Wash U and lost to each plus 2 losses to Rochester. If Mt. St. Marys is regionally ranked, they are 3-4. Illinois Wesleyan is (again, I think) 1-4.

nyballer14 · February 26, 2006, 11:24:42 PM

NYU was held out of last year's tournament because they were ranked 14th out of a Pool C that only took 7, based on QOWI numbers. This year they were 13th out of the 21 Pool C spots. I know everyone is complaining because they had a .720 winning % at 18-7, but that is 1 of the 3 main criteria. The third as we know is record against regionally ranked opponents, which is something that NYU has much experience. They played 7 games against regionally ranked opponents and went 3-4. The second half of Pool C teams had records like 0-3, 1-3, 0-2, except Trinity at 3-4 as well, which is the reason I feel they got in with only 15 Region wins and a QOWI below 9.8. If this was D1 then yes the fact NYU lost 4 in a row would lead someone to think they don't have a chance, but the understading I have is that it is all about the numbers and NYU had them.

Mrs. Scorekeeper · February 26, 2006, 11:32:19 PM

Jagluski, thanks for correcting me. So that means 8 teams from two conferences. It's hard to imagine that in D3 there are conferences with 4 teams while many others only got 1. I'm happy my team made it.

Ralph Turner · February 27, 2006, 12:34:27 AM

Add 3 more teams (2 Pool C's) from the American Southwest Conference.

McMurry and Hardin-Simmons (currently deemed among the best rivalries in women's hoops in D3) are in Abilene. (There were more than 2200 in attendance at the last meeting.) Howard Payne is only 80 miles away. In west Texas, that is next door.

These teams draw from the hotbed of women's basketball that is west Texas.

I have a photograph of my maternal grandmother coaching 3-on-3 high school girls basketball in a cotton field in Mitchell County, Texas in 1922. The players are dressed in lace-up leather shoes and some are wearing hats!

Women's basketball is very popular in West Texas. Coach Marsha Sharp gets 12,000 fans to watch the Texas Tech Lady Raiders; Bobby Knight only 6500 for the Tech men.

The UAA and the NESCAC can use academics to pull quality athletes are not chasing the WNBA, but rather graduate school. Their academic aid packages are worth close enough to what many athletic shcloarship package are worth. Signing a quality student athlete to a UAA school is a no-brainer.

Hot beds in Maine, Ohio, Minnesota, Pennsylvania, Texas and the midwest and northwest capture most of the other bids.

Fawkes316 · February 27, 2006, 01:13:04 AM

Four teams from Texas makes it easier for the committee to do the pairings too. They can do an all Texas regional with Trinity as well.

I know the numbers don't back up Illinois Wesleyan, but I have a hard time seeing 12 teams from the Northeast (5 Pool C's) and no Pool C teams from the Central. 6 of the last 8 champions have come from the Central, but we cannot get teams in even with the expanded tournament? Central Region teams can't seem to rack up the 1 or two loss seasons that Northeast teams can, but we seem to fair a lot better against them head-to-head in the tournament. And this is from a person who grew up in Gorham, Maine, and has friends who went to USM.