Pool C

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Pat Coleman

Only that the GSAC gets an automatic bid on the women's side because it has seven teams, so Maryville (Tenn.) cannot get a Pool B bid.

Good work, thanks -- I am not surprised that the women's floor sits at 10.0 while the men's is at 9.7.
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David Collinge

Quote from: Pat Coleman on February 21, 2007, 03:31:40 PM
Only that the GSAC gets an automatic bid on the women's side because it has seven teams, so Maryville (Tenn.) cannot get a Pool B bid.

Thanks; fixed.  :)

Pat Coleman

Through Thursday:

Rank   QOWI   Rk in-reg   Team   Reg. W-L   Overall
1   12.261   1   Bowdoin   0.957 (22-1)   24-1
2   11.800   1   Messiah   0.960 (24-1)   24-2
3   11.375   2   Emmanuel   0.958 (23-1)   25-1
4   11.360   2   Scranton   0.920 (23-2)   24-2
5   11.208   1   New York University   0.917 (22-2)   22-2
6   11.200   3   Fitchburg State   0.920 (23-2)   23-2
7   11.125   2   Rochester   0.792 (19-5)   19-5
8   11.120   4   Southern Maine   0.920 (23-2)   23-2
9   11.111   1   DePauw   0.833 (15-3)   22-3
10   10.958   3   Cortland State   0.917 (22-2)   23-2
11   10.920   1   UW-Stout   0.840 (21-4)   22-5
12   10.895   1   Luther   0.895 (17-2)   21-4
13   10.857   5   Williams   0.810 (17-4)   20-5
14   10.846   1   Mary Washington   0.923 (24-2)   25-2
15   10.789   2   Calvin   1.000 (19-0)   25-1
16   10.708   1   Howard Payne   0.958 (23-1)   24-1
17   10.708   6   Maine Maritime   0.917 (22-2)   24-2
18   10.654   3   Gwynedd-Mercy   0.923 (24-2)   24-2
19   10.652   2   Carroll   0.870 (20-3)   20-3
20   10.650   3   Lake Forest   0.950 (19-1)   21-2
21   10.636   4   St. Lawrence   0.955 (21-1)   23-2
22   10.636   7   Brandeis   0.818 (18-4)   19-4
23   10.600   4   McDaniel   0.920 (23-2)   23-2
24   10.520   2   Kean   0.880 (22-3)   23-3
25   10.519   3   Mount St. Mary   0.852 (23-4)   23-4
26   10.500   2   Puget Sound   0.850 (17-3)   21-5
27   10.480   3   Wilmington   0.840 (21-4)   23-4
28   10.423   8   Maine-Farmington   0.885 (23-3)   23-3
29   10.417   9   Norwich   0.917 (22-2)   23-2
30   10.409   3   Simpson   0.773 (17-5)   21-6
31   10.400   4   Washington U.   0.800 (16-4)   19-5
32   10.348   4   Denison   0.870 (20-3)   22-4
33   10.333   5   Concordia (Wis.)   0.905 (19-2)   22-3
34   10.318   2   Oglethorpe   0.818 (18-4)   19-6
35   10.304   3   Randolph-Macon   0.870 (20-3)   21-4
36   10.292   4   McMurry   0.875 (21-3)   22-3
37   10.261   6   UW-Whitewater   0.739 (17-6)   19-7
38   10.250   4   Chapman   0.750 (15-5)   20-5
39   10.227   5   Manchester   0.818 (18-4)   19-6
40   10.208   5   St. Benedict   0.875 (21-3)   21-5
41   10.208   4   William Paterson   0.875 (21-3)   22-4
42   10.136   7   Chicago   0.727 (16-6)   18-6
43   10.136   6   Hope   0.864 (19-3)   23-3
44   10.115   6   Gustavus Adolphus   0.846 (22-4)   22-4
45   10.059   7   George Fox   0.750 (13-4)   17-6
46   10.045   7   Transylvania   0.773 (17-5)   18-7
47   10.042   10   Keene State   0.792 (19-5)   20-5
48   10.000   8   Illinois Wesleyan   0.864 (19-3)   21-4
49   10.000   11   Tufts   0.696 (16-7)   17-7
50   10.000   8   Capital   0.769 (20-6)   20-6
51   9.958   12   Salve Regina   0.833 (20-4)   21-6
52   9.957   5   Hardin-Simmons   0.826 (19-4)   20-4
53   9.955   6   Virginia Wesleyan   0.773 (17-5)   19-6
54   9.952   9   Maryville (Mo.)   0.857 (18-3)   21-5
55   9.923   13   Colby-Sawyer   0.846 (22-4)   22-4
56   9.905   5   Medaille   0.905 (19-2)   21-4
57   9.900   7   East Texas Baptist   0.850 (17-3)   21-4
58   9.875   6   Brockport State   0.750 (18-6)   20-6
59   9.857   10   Millikin   0.810 (17-4)   20-5
60   9.840   7   Oswego State   0.720 (18-7)   18-7
61   9.833   5   Dickinson   0.833 (20-4)   21-4
62   9.826   11   UW-Eau Claire   0.727 (16-6)   19-8
63   9.810   9   Thomas More   0.810 (17-4)   20-4
64   9.727   10   Westminster (Pa.)   0.773 (17-5)   21-5
65   9.720   12   UW-Stevens Point   0.708 (17-7)   18-7
66   9.667   8   Maryville (Tenn.)   0.857 (18-3)   22-4
67   9.667   9   Ferrum   0.792 (19-5)   20-6
68   9.654   6   Albright   0.654 (17-9)   17-9
69   9.619   11   Rose-Hulman   0.810 (17-4)   21-4
70   9.609   14   Bates   0.609 (14-9)   15-9
71   9.591   10   Trinity (Texas)   0.682 (15-7)   17-7
72   9.583   7   Muhlenberg   0.750 (18-6)   19-6
73   9.500   15   Eastern Connecticut   0.667 (16-8)   16-10
74   9.480   8   King's   0.720 (18-7)   19-7
75   9.450   13   Wheaton (Ill.)   0.700 (14-6)   17-7
76   9.429   11   Hendrix   0.762 (16-5)   19-6
77   9.417   5   Baruch   0.750 (18-6)   20-7
78   9.407   6   Stevens   0.778 (21-6)   21-6
79   9.364   12   Eastern Mennonite   0.727 (16-6)   17-7
80   9.333   16   Suffolk   0.750 (18-6)   18-8
81   9.320   12   Baldwin-Wallace   0.720 (18-7)   19-7
82   9.308   14   Benedictine   0.731 (19-7)   20-7
83   9.292   7   SUNY-Farmingdale   0.750 (18-6)   19-6
84   9.292   13   Penn State-Behrend   0.833 (20-4)   20-4
85   9.286   15   Carthage   0.619 (13-8)   15-10
86   9.263   8   Elmira   0.737 (14-5)   20-5
87   9.250   8   La Verne   0.750 (15-5)   19-6
88   9.222   8   York (Pa.)   0.667 (18-9)   18-9
89   9.208   14   Allegheny   0.708 (17-7)   18-7
90   9.190   9   Hamilton   0.667 (14-7)   17-7
91   9.185   17   Endicott   0.667 (18-9)   18-9
92   9.174   13   Bridgewater (Va.)   0.696 (16-7)   17-8
93   9.160   18   Worcester Polytech   0.760 (19-6)   19-6
94   9.160   15   Ohio Northern   0.640 (16-9)   17-10
95   9.148   9   Carleton   0.704 (19-8)   19-8
96   9.136   10   RPI   0.636 (14-8)   15-10
97   9.125   14   Shenandoah   0.667 (16-8)   17-8
98   9.120   9   Moravian   0.600 (15-10)   16-10
99   9.100   10   Minnesota-Morris   0.900 (9-1)   14-11
100   9.087   11   Loras   0.696 (16-7)   17-9
101   9.087   16   St. Norbert   0.696 (16-7)   16-7
102   9.083   19   Mount Holyoke   0.708 (17-7)   19-7
103   9.048   15   Piedmont   0.714 (15-6)   16-7
104   9.045   16   Washington and Jefferson   0.682 (15-7)   19-7
105   9.000   12   Redlands   0.684 (13-6)   16-8
106   8.962   10   Cabrini   0.731 (19-7)   19-7
107   8.958   16   Mary Hardin-Baylor   0.667 (16-8)   16-9
108   8.957   17   Wittenberg   0.609 (14-9)   15-10
109   8.952   11   Keuka   0.700 (14-6)   16-7
110   8.917   13   Concordia-Moorhead   0.667 (16-8)   18-9
111   8.913   12   William Smith   0.609 (14-9)   14-10
112   8.885   11   Ursinus   0.654 (17-9)   17-9
113   8.875   9   Lehman   0.667 (16-8)   18-9
114   8.857   20   Wesleyan   0.571 (12-9)   15-9
115   8.852   10   Marymount   0.667 (18-9)   18-9
116   8.840   21   Wheaton (Mass.)   0.640 (16-9)   17-9
117   8.833   13   Utica   0.708 (17-7)   18-7
118   8.818   14   Buena Vista   0.636 (14-8)   17-10
119   8.750   17   Texas-Tyler   0.700 (14-6)   17-8
120   8.750   14   Ithaca   0.583 (14-10)   14-11
121   8.737   15   Lewis and Clark   0.632 (12-7)   16-9
122   8.727   18   Christopher Newport   0.682 (15-7)   18-8
123   8.708   15   Geneseo State   0.542 (13-11)   14-12
124   8.682   19   Greensboro   0.727 (16-6)   18-8
125   8.680   22   Castleton State   0.720 (18-7)   19-7
126   8.667   17   UW-River Falls   0.583 (14-10)   16-11
127   8.654   23   Salem State   0.600 (15-10)   16-10
128   8.652   20   Austin   0.609 (14-9)   14-9
129   8.652   12   Juniata   0.609 (14-9)   15-10
130   8.650   13   Johns Hopkins   0.700 (14-6)   14-9
131   8.640   24   Rhode Island College   0.640 (16-9)   16-10
132   8.636   25   Mass-Boston   0.591 (13-9)   15-11
133   8.625   16   New Paltz State   0.708 (17-7)   17-9
134   8.619   18   Lawrence   0.571 (12-9)   13-10
135   8.609   17   Rochester Tech   0.609 (14-9)   15-10
136   8.583   11   Rutgers-Newark   0.667 (16-8)   16-10
137   8.550   16   Linfield   0.550 (11-9)   14-11
138   8.550   18   Anderson   0.600 (12-8)   16-9
139   8.538   26   Western New England   0.577 (15-11)   15-11
140   8.522   12   Villa Julie   0.696 (16-7)   18-8
141   8.520   19   Aurora   0.680 (17-8)   17-9
142   8.500   13   Montclair State   0.583 (14-10)   15-10
143   8.478   18   Union   0.565 (13-10)   13-11
144   8.478   14   Susquehanna   0.522 (12-11)   15-11
145   8.476   21   Rhodes   0.619 (13-8)   15-9
146   8.462   20   Edgewood   0.577 (15-11)   15-12
147   8.458   15   DeSales   0.583 (14-10)   16-10
148   8.440   27   Emerson   0.640 (16-9)   16-10
149   8.423   17   St. Thomas   0.577 (15-11)   15-11
150   8.400   18   Whitworth   0.550 (11-9)   14-11
151   8.400   19   Mount Union   0.520 (13-12)   14-13
152   8.368   19   Whitman   0.526 (10-9)   12-13
153   8.333   20   Occidental   0.611 (11-7)   16-9
154   8.333   22   Roanoke   0.583 (14-10)   15-10
155   8.333   16   Neumann   0.667 (18-9)   18-9
156   8.333   17   Alvernia   0.593 (16-11)   16-11
157   8.316   21   Claremont-Mudd-Scripps   0.579 (11-8)   15-10
158   8.304   19   Oneonta State   0.522 (12-11)   14-12
159   8.304   20   Albion   0.565 (13-10)   15-11
160   8.294   21   Principia   0.706 (12-5)   19-6
161   8.280   22   Wisconsin Lutheran   0.560 (14-11)   15-11
162   8.280   14   John Jay   0.640 (16-9)   18-9
163   8.261   28   Bridgewater State   0.565 (13-10)   14-10
164   8.259   15   New Jersey   0.481 (13-14)   13-14
165   8.259   29   Nichols   0.630 (17-10)   17-10
166   8.240   30   Western Connecticut   0.560 (14-11)   15-11
167   8.231   31   Husson   0.538 (14-12)   14-12
168   8.231   18   Gettysburg   0.577 (15-11)   15-11
169   8.192   23   Lakeland   0.577 (15-11)   15-11
170   8.190   23   Washington and Lee   0.571 (12-9)   15-10
171   8.176   22   Pacific Lutheran   0.529 (9-8)   13-11
172   8.174   16   Mt. St. Vincent   0.565 (13-10)   15-10
173   8.174   32   Amherst   0.522 (12-11)   12-13
174   8.174   21   Kenyon   0.565 (13-10)   14-12
175   8.160   24   Mississippi College   0.640 (16-9)   16-9
176   8.143   25   Emory   0.429 (9-12)   9-15
177   8.115   33   Springfield   0.538 (14-12)   14-12
178   8.095   24   Greenville   0.614 (13-8)   17-8
179   8.087   22   St. Mary's (Ind.)   0.522 (12-11)   12-12
180   8.048   25   North Park   0.571 (12-9)   15-9
181   8.048   26   Fontbonne   0.571 (12-9)   13-13
182   8.045   27   UW-La Crosse   0.455 (10-12)   13-13
183   8.045   17   Salisbury   0.591 (13-9)   15-11
184   8.045   18   Catholic   0.545 (12-10)   15-11
185   8.038   19   Richard Stockton   0.500 (13-13)   13-13
186   8.000   20   St. Mary's (Md.)   0.458 (11-13)   12-13
187   8.000   34   Worcester State   0.500 (12-12)   14-12
188   8.000   23   Defiance   0.524 (11-10)   14-11
189   7.957   24   Otterbein   0.522 (12-11)   14-12
190   7.917   21   Frostburg State   0.625 (15-9)   17-9
191   7.917   20   St. John Fisher   0.500 (12-12)   13-12
192   7.917   19   Drew   0.500 (12-12)   13-13
193   7.889   26   Agnes Scott   0.556 (10-8)   16-8
194   7.875   25   Wooster   0.542 (13-11)   14-12
195   7.864   26   Olivet   0.545 (12-10)   12-12
196   7.857   35   Trinity (Conn.)   0.524 (11-10)   12-12
197   7.850   22   Notre Dame (Md.)   0.700 (14-6)   16-6
198   7.840   23   St. Catherine's   0.560 (14-11)   15-11
199   7.840   36   Babson   0.520 (13-12)   13-13
200   7.792   27   Southwestern   0.500 (12-12)   13-12
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Fawkes316

David- Having tried to do that kind of thing before, I am sure that wasn't very easy, though you're probably more skilled than me.

FYI- Illinois Wesleyan and Millikin might both need Pool Cs. I know that's true of most conferences, but since Wheaton is the conference champ and tourney host and not in the top 70, I thought that might be important to note.

At this point I doubt that any of them will get a Pool C bid, except maybe if IWU beats Millikin and loses to Wheaton.

Mr. Ypsi

skafkas,

I think your assessment might be too bleak.  Assuming Wheaton wins the A (for simplicity's sake, and because they're the hottest team right now), if IWU wins the semi, they'd finish 10.125 QOWI and .833 winning % - seems pretty safe.  (If they lose the semi, they'd be 9.913, .826 - definitely precarious at best.)  If Millikin wins the semi, they'd finish 10.000 QOWI and .783 winning % - far from a lock, but seems 'high bubble' terrritory.  (If they lose the semi, they'd be 9.773, .773 - almost certainly out.)

[Note: these QOWI computations assume no change in level for non-conference opponents.]


Pat Coleman

And through Friday:

Overall   QOWI   In reg.   Team   Reg. rec.   Overall
1   12.261   1   Bowdoin   0.957 (22-1)   24-1
2   11.800   1   Messiah   0.960 (24-1)   24-2
3   11.400   2   Emmanuel   0.960 (24-1)   26-1
4   11.360   2   Scranton   0.920 (23-2)   24-2
5   11.208   1   New York University   0.917 (22-2)   22-2
6   11.154   3   Southern Maine   0.923 (24-2)   24-2
7   11.125   2   Rochester   0.792 (19-5)   19-5
8   11.080   3   Cortland State   0.920 (23-2)   24-2
9   11.000   4   Fitchburg State   0.923 (24-2)   24-2
10   10.952   5   Williams   0.810 (17-4)   20-5
11   10.895   1   Luther   0.895 (17-2)   21-4
12   10.870   4   St. Lawrence   0.957 (22-1)   24-2
13   10.840   1   UW-Stout   0.840 (21-4)   22-5
14   10.800   6   Maine Maritime   0.920 (23-2)   25-2
15   10.789   1   Calvin   1.000 (19-0)   25-1
16   10.769   1   Mary Washington   0.923 (24-2)   25-2
17   10.654   3   Gwynedd-Mercy   0.923 (24-2)   24-2
18   10.636   7   Brandeis   0.818 (18-4)   19-4
19   10.619   2   Lake Forest   0.952 (20-1)   22-2
20   10.600   2   Kean   0.880 (22-3)   23-3
21   10.600   8   Norwich   0.920 (23-2)   24-2
22   10.600   4   McDaniel   0.920 (23-2)   23-2
23   10.583   3   Carroll   0.875 (21-3)   21-3
24   10.579   2   DePauw   0.842 (16-3)   23-3
25   10.519   3   Mount St. Mary   0.852 (23-4)   23-4
26   10.519   9   Maine-Farmington   0.889 (24-3)   24-3
27   10.500   2   Puget Sound   0.850 (17-3)   21-5
28   10.480   3   Wilmington   0.840 (21-4)   23-4
29   10.440   1   Howard Payne   0.960 (24-1)   25-1
30   10.417   4   Denison   0.875 (21-3)   23-4
31   10.400   4   Washington U.   0.800 (16-4)   19-5
32   10.333   5   Concordia (Wis.)   0.905 (19-2)   22-3
33   10.318   3   Simpson   0.773 (17-5)   21-6
34   10.304   5   Manchester   0.826 (19-4)   20-6
35   10.292   4   William Paterson   0.875 (21-3)   22-4
36   10.261   6   UW-Whitewater   0.739 (17-6)   19-7
37   10.261   6   Transylvania   0.783 (18-5)   19-7
38   10.240   2   McMurry   0.880 (22-3)   23-3
39   10.217   7   Illinois Wesleyan   0.870 (20-3)   22-4
40   10.208   4   St. Benedict   0.875 (21-3)   21-5
41   10.160   10   Keene State   0.800 (20-5)   21-5
42   10.143   5   Chapman   0.762 (16-5)   21-5
43   10.136   7   Hope   0.864 (19-3)   23-3
44   10.115   6   Gustavus Adolphus   0.846 (22-4)   22-4
45   10.115   5   Oswego State   0.731 (19-7)   19-7
46   10.059   7   George Fox   0.750 (13-4)   17-6
47   10.045   8   Chicago   0.727 (16-6)   18-6
48   10.000   3   Oglethorpe   0.826 (19-4)   20-6
49   9.958   11   Salve Regina   0.833 (20-4)   21-6
50   9.952   9   Maryville (Mo.)   0.857 (18-3)   21-5
51   9.923   12   Colby-Sawyer   0.846 (22-4)   22-4
52   9.923   8   Capital   0.769 (20-6)   20-6
53   9.917   4   Randolph-Macon   0.875 (21-3)   22-4
54   9.913   13   Tufts   0.696 (16-7)   17-7
55   9.909   6   Medaille   0.909 (20-2)   22-4
56   9.857   5   East Texas Baptist   0.857 (18-3)   22-4
57   9.833   6   Hardin-Simmons   0.833 (20-4)   21-4
58   9.833   5   Dickinson   0.833 (20-4)   21-4
59   9.773   10   UW-Eau Claire   0.727 (16-6)   19-8
60   9.760   7   Brockport State   0.720 (18-7)   20-7
61   9.731   6   Albright   0.654 (17-9)   17-9
62   9.727   11   Millikin   0.773 (17-5)   20-6
63   9.727   7   Maryville (Tenn.)   0.864 (19-3)   23-4
64   9.720   8   Ferrum   0.800 (20-5)   21-6
65   9.696   9   Westminster (Pa.)   0.783 (18-5)   22-5
66   9.652   9   Virginia Wesleyan   0.783 (18-5)   20-6
67   9.609   14   Bates   0.609 (14-9)   15-9
68   9.583   7   Muhlenberg   0.750 (18-6)   19-6
69   9.571   12   Wheaton (Ill.)   0.714 (15-6)   18-7
70   9.545   10   Thomas More   0.818 (18-4)   21-4
71   9.542   13   UW-Stevens Point   0.708 (17-7)   18-7
72   9.500   11   Rose-Hulman   0.773 (17-5)   21-5
73   9.480   5   Baruch   0.720 (18-7)   20-8
74   9.480   8   King's   0.720 (18-7)   19-7
75   9.407   6   Stevens   0.778 (21-6)   21-6
76   9.400   8   Elmira   0.750 (15-5)   21-5
77   9.364   9   Hamilton   0.682 (15-7)   18-7
78   9.320   15   Eastern Connecticut   0.640 (16-9)   16-11
79   9.320   12   Baldwin-Wallace   0.720 (18-7)   19-7
80   9.318   10   RPI   0.636 (14-8)   15-10
81   9.308   14   Benedictine   0.731 (19-7)   20-7
82   9.292   7   SUNY-Farmingdale   0.750 (18-6)   19-6
83   9.280   13   Penn State-Behrend   0.840 (21-4)   21-4
84   9.280   14   Allegheny   0.720 (18-7)   19-7
85   9.250   8   La Verne   0.750 (15-5)   19-6
86   9.240   16   Suffolk   0.720 (18-7)   18-9
87   9.222   8   York (Pa.)   0.667 (18-9)   18-9
88   9.185   17   Endicott   0.667 (18-9)   18-9
89   9.182   15   Carthage   0.591 (13-9)   15-11
90   9.160   15   Ohio Northern   0.640 (16-9)   17-10
91   9.148   9   Carleton   0.704 (19-8)   19-8
92   9.136   10   Piedmont   0.727 (16-6)   17-7
93   9.130   11   Trinity (Texas)   0.652 (15-8)   17-8
94   9.120   9   Lehman   0.680 (17-8)   19-9
95   9.120   9   Moravian   0.600 (15-10)   16-10
96   9.100   10   Minnesota-Morris   0.900 (9-1)   14-11
97   9.091   11   Keuka   0.727 (16-6)   17-7
98   9.087   11   Loras   0.696 (16-7)   17-9
99   9.080   18   Worcester Polytech   0.760 (19-6)   19-6
100   9.040   12   Shenandoah   0.640 (16-9)   17-9
101   9.000   12   Redlands   0.684 (13-6)   16-8
102   9.000   16   St. Norbert   0.667 (16-8)   16-8
103   9.000   12   Ithaca   0.600 (15-10)   15-11
104   9.000   13   William Smith   0.583 (14-10)   14-11
105   9.000   19   Mount Holyoke   0.708 (17-7)   19-7
106   8.962   10   Cabrini   0.731 (19-7)   19-7
107   8.957   13   Christopher Newport   0.696 (16-7)   19-8
108   8.957   16   Washington and Jefferson   0.652 (15-8)   19-8
109   8.917   13   Concordia-Moorhead   0.667 (16-8)   18-9
110   8.885   11   Ursinus   0.654 (17-9)   17-9
111   8.857   20   Wesleyan   0.571 (12-9)   15-9
112   8.852   10   Marymount   0.667 (18-9)   18-9
113   8.840   21   Wheaton (Mass.)   0.640 (16-9)   17-9
114   8.833   14   Bridgewater (Va.)   0.667 (16-8)   17-9
115   8.833   17   Wittenberg   0.583 (14-10)   15-11
116   8.826   15   Eastern Mennonite   0.696 (16-7)   17-8
117   8.818   14   Buena Vista   0.636 (14-8)   17-10
118   8.760   14   Utica   0.680 (17-8)   18-8
119   8.737   15   Lewis and Clark   0.632 (12-7)   16-9
120   8.708   11   Villa Julie   0.708 (17-7)   19-8
121   8.708   15   Geneseo State   0.542 (13-11)   14-12
122   8.667   17   UW-River Falls   0.583 (14-10)   16-11
123   8.667   12   Rutgers-Newark   0.667 (16-8)   16-10
124   8.667   22   Salem State   0.630 (17-10)   17-10
125   8.652   12   Juniata   0.609 (14-9)   15-10
126   8.650   13   Johns Hopkins   0.700 (14-6)   14-9
127   8.640   16   Mary Hardin-Baylor   0.640 (16-9)   16-10
128   8.640   23   Rhode Island College   0.640 (16-9)   16-10
129   8.636   24   Mass-Boston   0.591 (13-9)   15-11
130   8.615   25   Castleton State   0.692 (18-8)   19-8
131   8.609   17   Greensboro   0.696 (16-7)   18-9
132   8.591   18   Hendrix   0.727 (16-6)   19-7
133   8.583   16   Union   0.542 (13-11)   13-12
134   8.560   17   New Paltz State   0.680 (17-8)   17-10
135   8.550   16   Linfield   0.550 (11-9)   14-11
136   8.550   19   Texas-Tyler   0.700 (14-6)   17-8
137   8.542   18   Rochester Tech   0.583 (14-10)   15-11
138   8.520   18   Aurora   0.680 (17-8)   17-9
139   8.520   13   John Jay   0.640 (16-9)   18-9
140   8.500   20   Austin   0.625 (15-9)   15-9
141   8.500   14   Montclair State   0.583 (14-10)   15-10
142   8.481   26   Western New England   0.556 (15-12)   15-12
143   8.478   14   Susquehanna   0.522 (12-11)   15-11
144   8.476   18   Anderson   0.571 (12-9)   16-10
145   8.462   19   Edgewood   0.577 (15-11)   15-12
146   8.458   15   DeSales   0.583 (14-10)   16-10
147   8.440   27   Emerson   0.640 (16-9)   16-10
148   8.423   17   St. Thomas   0.577 (15-11)   15-11
149   8.400   18   Whitworth   0.550 (11-9)   14-11
150   8.368   19   Whitman   0.526 (10-9)   12-13
151   8.364   20   Lawrence   0.545 (12-10)   13-11
152   8.333   20   Occidental   0.611 (11-7)   16-9
153   8.333   16   Neumann   0.667 (18-9)   18-9
154   8.333   17   Alvernia   0.593 (16-11)   16-11
155   8.320   19   Mount Union   0.520 (13-12)   14-13
156   8.316   21   Claremont-Mudd-Scripps   0.579 (11-8)   15-10
157   8.304   19   Oneonta State   0.522 (12-11)   14-12
158   8.304   20   Albion   0.565 (13-10)   15-11
159   8.294   21   Principia   0.706 (12-5)   19-6
160   8.280   22   Wisconsin Lutheran   0.560 (14-11)   15-11
161   8.269   28   Western Connecticut   0.538 (14-12)   15-12
162   8.261   29   Amherst   0.522 (12-11)   12-13
163   8.259   15   New Jersey   0.481 (13-14)   13-14
164   8.231   18   Gettysburg   0.577 (15-11)   15-11
165   8.200   21   Roanoke   0.600 (15-10)   16-10
166   8.192   23   Lakeland   0.577 (15-11)   15-11
167   8.185   30   Nichols   0.630 (17-10)   17-10
168   8.185   31   Husson   0.519 (14-13)   14-13
169   8.176   22   Pacific Lutheran   0.529 (9-8)   13-11
170   8.174   16   Mt. St. Vincent   0.565 (13-10)   15-10
171   8.136   22   Rhodes   0.636 (14-8)   16-9
172   8.136   23   Washington and Lee   0.591 (13-9)   16-10
173   8.125   21   Kenyon   0.542 (13-11)   14-13
174   8.095   24   Greenville   0.614 (13-8)   17-8
175   8.087   22   St. Mary's (Ind.)   0.522 (12-11)   12-12
176   8.048   25   North Park   0.571 (12-9)   15-9
177   8.048   26   Fontbonne   0.571 (12-9)   13-13
178   8.045   27   UW-La Crosse   0.455 (10-12)   13-13
179   8.045   17   Salisbury   0.591 (13-9)   15-11
180   8.045   18   Catholic   0.545 (12-10)   15-11
181   8.038   19   Richard Stockton   0.500 (13-13)   13-13
182   8.038   32   Springfield   0.538 (14-12)   14-12
183   8.000   20   St. Mary's (Md.)   0.458 (11-13)   12-13
184   8.000   23   Defiance   0.524 (11-10)   14-11
185   7.962   24   Mississippi College   0.615 (16-10)   16-10
186   7.960   33   Worcester State   0.480 (12-13)   14-13
187   7.958   34   Bridgewater State   0.542 (13-11)   14-11
188   7.957   24   Otterbein   0.522 (12-11)   14-12
189   7.952   25   Emory   0.429 (9-12)   9-15
190   7.917   21   Frostburg State   0.625 (15-9)   17-9
191   7.917   20   St. John Fisher   0.500 (12-12)   13-12
192   7.917   19   Drew   0.500 (12-12)   13-13
193   7.905   22   Notre Dame (Md.)   0.714 (15-6)   17-6
194   7.875   25   Wooster   0.542 (13-11)   14-12
195   7.864   26   Olivet   0.545 (12-10)   12-12
196   7.842   26   Agnes Scott   0.526 (10-9)   16-9
197   7.840   23   St. Catherine's   0.560 (14-11)   15-11
198   7.792   20   Delaware Valley   0.458 (11-13)   11-13
199   7.762   35   Trinity (Conn.)   0.524 (11-10)   12-12
200   7.760   28   UW-Platteville   0.400 (10-15)   11-16
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airball1

Just wondering?
Oglethorpe went from a 10.316 on Thursday to a 10.000 on Friday after beating Southwestern (13-12) which if my calculations are correct is worth 13 on the QOWI? Seems like a very large drop after a W.
I know you are busy Pat but if you get a chance, give it another look
thx

GAVA

Quote from: airball1 on February 24, 2007, 05:58:35 AM
Just wondering?
Oglethorpe went from a 10.316 on Thursday to a 10.000 on Friday after beating Southwestern (13-12) which if my calculations are correct is worth 13 on the QOWI? Seems like a very large drop after a W.
I know you are busy Pat but if you get a chance, give it another look
thx

Same with Radolph Macon after their win ???

Ralph Turner

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Quote from: airball1 on February 24, 2007, 05:58:35 AM
Just wondering?
Oglethorpe went from a 10.316 on Thursday to a 10.000 on Friday after beating Southwestern (13-12) which if my calculations are correct is worth 13 on the QOWI? Seems like a very large drop after a W.
I know you are busy Pat but if you get a chance, give it another look
thx

Two things may be in play here.

--Southwestern University's in-region record is now 12-13, worth 11 points yesterday instead of 13.

--The rumblings on the Men's Pool C message board have to do with the value of those teams whose in-region record is precisely 4-2 or 6-3 or 8-4 or 10-5 0r 12-6 or 14-7 or 16-8 being a percentage of .666666666666..., and not being .667 as in the Handbook.  This drops the value of victories over those teams to 13 points instead of 15.

Did other OU opponents lose a stratum yesterday?

GAVA

Quote from: Ralph Turner on February 24, 2007, 08:51:28 AM
Quote from: airball1 on February 24, 2007, 05:58:35 AM
Just wondering?
Oglethorpe went from a 10.316 on Thursday to a 10.000 on Friday after beating Southwestern (13-12) which if my calculations are correct is worth 13 on the QOWI? Seems like a very large drop after a W.
I know you are busy Pat but if you get a chance, give it another look
thx

Two things may be in play here.

--Southwestern's in-region record is now 12-13, worth 11 points yesterday instead of 13.

--The rumblings on the Men's Pool C message board have to do with the value of those teams whose in-region record is precisely 4-2 or 6-3 or 8-4 or 10-5 0r 12-6 or 14-7 or 16-8 being a percentage of .666666666666..., and not being .667 as in the Handbook.  This drops the value of victories over those teams to 13 points instead of 15.

Did other OU opponents lose a stratum yesterday?


But how do you get large drops after wins?

Pat Coleman

By re-reading Ralph's post more closely.
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newtonnancy

was speaking with a friend in Waltham today and they told me that someone at Brandeis told them that based on record and qowi that they are in the NCAA's today win or lose at NYU and that they expect to host the first round of the tourny. Is that possible? I mean I see that they are over 10.6 in the QOWI but a loss at NYU would bring that down, they only play 24 NOT 25 games and they had one win out of region. Granted they did beat the Maroons twice and Rochester once, but with 5 losses and that cupcake out of conference schedule why would they be "in not matter what happens today" when a team like Chicago if they beat Wash U would not. Chicago had a much tougher out of conference schedule and ok they lost at NYU and Brandeis and Rochester but all couple of point games. Maybe Coach Simon does it right if you get in the tourny by beating teams with 3 wins, 5 wins, 6 wins and it pays off better then beating teams with 12, 13, 15 wins

airball1

Just wondering again about Oglethorpe? Stand corrected on Southwestern in region record but still 11, higher then the 10.316.
Other in-region opponents still in hunt in respective conference tounaments such as Ferrum, Maryville, Piedmont and SCAC winners. I guess conference tournament winners and losers probably should balance out.
Just looking for input.
thx


Ralph Turner

Quote from: newtonnancy on February 24, 2007, 10:24:38 AM
was speaking with a friend in Waltham today and they told me that someone at Brandeis told them that based on record and qowi that they are in the NCAA's today win or lose at NYU and that they expect to host the first round of the tourny. Is that possible?

That is possible.  There are 15 first round sites for the four-team bracket to be determined and they need a couple for the sub-regional in the Northeast.  Whether your venue is selected over Bowdoin's, Southern Maine's or Emmanuel's remains to be seen.

I mean I see that they are over 10.6 in the QOWI but a loss at NYU would bring that down, they only play 24 NOT 25 games and they had one win out of region. Granted they did beat the Maroons twice and Rochester once, but with 5 losses and that cupcake out of conference schedule why would they be "in not matter what happens today" when a team like Chicago if they beat Wash U would not. Chicago had a much tougher out of conference schedule and ok they lost at NYU and Brandeis and Rochester but all couple of point games.

Maybe Coach Simon does it right if you get in the tourny by beating teams with 3 wins, 5 wins, 6 wins and it pays off better then beating teams with 12, 13, 15 wins

Newton,  as I have grappled with the criteria, I have discovered more nuances/implications of what the criteria do to winnow out the teams that may not be deserving.  (Careful analysis of my posts will show that I am frustrated by the failure to comply with the word of the guidelines, and only occasionally by the intent or spirit.)

Brandeis has these things going for them.


  • You are the top rated Pool C candidate coming out of the Northeast Region, if we assume the "Super Secret" final Regional rankings hold as Wednesday's did.  That means you are considered in the first group of 8 thru all 20 rounds of the Pool C deliberations .
  • Your record against regionally ranked teams is 1-4 going into the NYU game.
  • Your in-region record is in the Top 10 in a very top heavy (almost bimodal) region..lots of very good teams and lots of really bad teams, which can be said about many reigons.
  • Your QOWI is in the Top 20.  I think that your coach has done a ggod job of scheduling opponents.  IMHO, the Northeast is one of the easiest regions to build an easy schedule that loads up on "pseudo-strong" QOWI opponents.

I think that a win over NYU clinches a Pool C bid.  A loss throws you deeper into the Pool, but not completely out of it.

GAVA

Quote from: Pat Coleman on February 24, 2007, 10:15:58 AM
By re-reading Ralph's post more closely.

I am lost. Ralph's post talks about men's ball and the Southwestern Region ???