FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference

Genius · May 19, 2006, 09:27:24 AM

Ereg does meet all of my criteria. Any starting back in the conference should be able to have vision, break tackles and have some speed. It isn't a matter of does he possess all 3 but is he the best at all 3. I don't think so but he's is a good RB in the conference. A 4.3 yard per carry avg is bad in college football. NFL that is a good avg. college that is suspect! We all have different opinions so i will let whoever responses have the last word on the RB issue.

NCAA Football · May 19, 2006, 12:56:20 PM

IBFC_Alum,

I agree that the CUW scheme is effective. I just don't think it is the best. I agree with you, that when the playoffs come around, they are going to have to throw the ball against the better teams, which is why they should throw it more in the season. Lakeland may have some holes to fill, but they will still be in the run for the top spot. Greenville still may be suspect, but I would still keep my eye on them, they can surprise some people this year. And as for Mac, they just have to listen to the staff and play tough. If they do that, they can be just as good as anyone. Anyway, all I am trying to say is in my mind, there is no favorite yet. We are just going to have to wait till the season begins and watch how things play out.

Genius · May 20, 2006, 09:21:56 AM

CUW is a great offensive scheme. The suspect that most defenses in the conference spend more time preparing for what they do than anyone else. Now...if your defense is better than their offense it doesn't matter what scheme you have.

it keep reading if mac players will listen to the coaches they have a chance. FYI... if players don't listen to the coaches then it is the coaches fault. That is a coach job, motivate players to follow and listen to you. If they don't listen it is because they don't trust that you know what you are doing or you recruited the wrong type of people (kids that don't listen to anyone). Either way it is the coach's responsibility.

question...how many other starters on d does Mac have other than Pirrollo. i read 3 post about their d. who else do they have? anybody else on 1st or 2nd team all conference returning? 1 player, no matter how good doesn't make a defense.

Ask Ray Lewis and his complaining this off season.

footballisfun · May 20, 2006, 01:54:27 PM

They didnt make 1st or 2nd team but a OLB named Jordan Missy made it as a freshman and a DT made it named Neal White who will be a Sr. this year.

footballisfun · May 21, 2006, 11:10:22 AM

Correction Jordan did make 2nd team and a LB named Scotty Gregory made 2nd team as well.

Genius · May 21, 2006, 09:39:54 PM

Sounds like Mac may have the best LB corps coming back this season. With one 1st teamer and two 2nd teams. If those 3 guys are that good i would have expected them to give up a few less points than over 30 per game.

Anybody else got a good or better LB corps than mac?

footballisfun · May 21, 2006, 11:59:41 PM

BU returns all of its starting LB, 1 of them was 2nd team.

Reeno10 · May 22, 2006, 11:09:31 AM

just one thing....mac only let up 4 teams over one hundred yards rushing and one of those teams barely made it in the late fourth quarter so i would have to say that speaks volumes about the linebacking core at mac being that it was there first year in that scheme....this year will be the second year with all of there linebackers returning.....to what i heard it was the secondary leting those points up... but thats not the point macs linebackers are going to be straight your forgeting that my boy dominated the conference last year in tackles and he has a supporting cast now soo that only seems to me that it might be a repeat preformance of last season (YOU BETTER BE LIFTING, BRUCE BRO HAHA)

Da One · May 22, 2006, 11:50:41 AM

Mac's D was in the middle of the pack last year. On the IBC page it shows that thru 9 games mac was giving up 358 yds a game. 170 a game rushing. If they only allowed 4 teams over 100 and 1 barely, then those 3 other teams must have ran for 250. They also gave up 5.2 yds a play. That will need to improve for them to compete for the title.
Reeno you say that the DB's were giving up the TD's. Mac gave up 38 TD's and only 15 of them came through the air. I'm not that good with math, but I think that is less than half. Mac's great individual stats mean nothing, a takes a team to win a championship. If the role players on the team can improve, they have the stars to compete.

Reeno10 · May 22, 2006, 12:58:50 PM

Well, first off we were talking about linebacking cores in the conference first off, second off i was going off what i heard..i wasnt there last season..and i am not going to be indepth with this because of certain situations such as red zone scoring etc. and how does a team get into the red zone?? long passes maybe!! For what i heard...Benedictine, CUW, Wooster, and Lakeland (Barely) all went over one hundred yards!! and i beleive BU and CUW were the only teams that had the most success in doing so...Stay on topic Da One, we are talk about linebacking cores, i am just trying to state that mac has the best linebacking cores in the conference hands down! but who ever your posting for has to be better soo there is no point into arguing just stating my OPINION! Remember last year was the first year with a new scheme and the linebackers for mac did do a decent job...thats all i am saying so who are you trying to prove wrong here or should i say what team are you trying to hype right now??

Da One · May 22, 2006, 02:49:08 PM

Reeno,
For starters, no one is arguing with you. Mac may have the best LB's in the IBC. My bad for getting off topic. All the Mac supporters are talking about the great numbers that their top players put up. The only number that matters is number of wins. As I said, Mac has three of the top players in the league at their respective positions. However, weather or not they have the role players to compete for a title is debatable. I'm definately not trying to hype any team. My team left the IBC last year when Coach Scott retired from AU with 4 titles in 7 years.

maddog8 · May 22, 2006, 03:40:11 PM

Reeno10, where do you get your facts, Maiuri had over 150yrd rushing and over 150 passing ins just 3 quarters against Mac so I find it hard for you to say LAKELAND barely got over 100, unless ONE individual at 150+ is barely, that's not countng the other 2 good running backs they have. When an O-Line like Lakelands is blowing you out of the water ONE LB is not enough. Believe me I want Mac to do good this year for I am friends with your 2 Saginaw Coaches. I want them to be successful. Honestly don't write unless you have factual info.

maddog8 · May 22, 2006, 03:50:34 PM

In addition I will say that Lakeland will be right up there with Mac for the top LB core, Never, Never, Never underestimate Bobby Busha, and Mr. Hornes pay attention to this season.

Reeno10 · May 22, 2006, 04:18:36 PM

Point understood maddog....and point understood with DA ONE.....With everything being said over the last couple weeks....what teams, players etc... do will make impacts on next season??

Genius · May 22, 2006, 04:58:46 PM

Maddog,

Lakeland better have some more dominate dlineman if bobby boushay and the rest of the crew will be as good as they were last year. THe DE was the best player in the conference last year in my opinion. And DT #75 was a very good nose tackle. He probably didn't have a bunch of stats but he was a force inside.

Are there guys who will be close to there level? If not those lbs may be in trouble.