FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference

[baseman201]

Ok,

I have been reading posts the whole season, and listening to Maddog rant and rave about his little Lakeland posse.  It's about time to put in my 2 cents.

Among the firsts posts for Maddog was Lakeland being a top 25 team......that is complete and utter bulls**t, and everyone knows it.  The 73-12 loss to Whitewater should have proved that. 

Though I am a IBFC fan, we have the weakest conference in all of D-III.  When our "top" IBFC team loses 73-12, we have a problem here. 

There is no way a IBFC team will win a playoff game.  Though I do give Aurora credit for what they did against Wooster last year.  Maddogg, you are overrating Lakeland WAYYYY to much, sure, they will beat the IBFC teams and possibly make it to the playoffs, and then what?  Lose 80-3 because they have to play a top team like Linfield or Mount Union.  The team that makes it from the IBFC will face an opponent that can probably beat alot of D-I programs. 

The team that makes the playoffs enjoy your conference championship, but that's where it ends.  Here is my prediction.  The team that makes the playoffs this year, whether it be Aurora, Con W., Macmurry, or Lakeland, will get beat by a margin of 40+ points.  Mark it down, tell your friends.

And maddogg, quit telling us how great your son is, if he was so great, wouldn't he want to play maybe at a higher level, possibly D-II.  Maybe he just looks good by comparison to other IBFC teams? HMMMMMMM, something to think about.

I am out

[Big_Uns]

I don't see any groundbreaking material in that post. I'm pretty sure that it was common knowledge that the IBFC is very weak in comparison to anyone, if not the weakest conference.

I think it's possible for any team to struggle on any given day. Only the best truly shine year round. Linfield beat Rowan 52-0 in the NATIONAL SEMIFINAL so I don't know what your point is about being blown out by the best team. I think that's proof it can happen to anybody. What was it--a few years ago when Oklahoma beat Texas A&M 77-0? Or what about even in the NFL when San Fran beat Denver 55-10 in the SUPER BOWL?

73-12 is just a couple of numbers to me. What if Lakeland meets WW in the first round of the playoffs and the score is 35-24? What does that say? Anything can happen, especially in college athletics. The unpredictability is half the fun.

Last year, Concordia only beats Eureka 7-3, yet the two teams CUW shared the title with beat Eureka by a collective score of 93-3. Does that make CUW any less of a team? Obviously not because they beat Lakeland and were co-champs.

Plain and simple, you can't guage a team's ability on any one particular game. I think it's probably best if you let the players and the day decide the winner of a game before you get down on an entire conference for one team's bad day.

[aufb05]

Big-Uns-

How does your post rate a -2 "Karma" ?

[SaintsFAN]

Big uns,

I see your point....but what was the public's reaction after all those blowouts you brought up??

[baseman201]

No, I was just getting pissed at Maddogg for telling us how great Lakeland is, and is a top 25 team.  Then, I found myself going on about how much our conference blows.

But, I am still sticking to my word on the team from the IBFC that makes the playoffs will lose by 40+ points, I am sure there is someone out there who agrees withe me.

But I agree, teams do get lucky from time to time and play a great game.  Like Aurora last year in the playoffs, Wooster was supposed to absolutely give it to them, and they stuck it out, and turned it into a great game.

the saying is true, "any given sunday", but for us "any given Saturday".  In D-III it happens, but not very often.

[Southfan]

Baseman201,

I will agree with you about the IBC champion getting to the playoffs and getting beat by 30 or 40 points because lets face it, the IBC is a weak conference.  Here something else that you should look at is the WIAC is supposedly the best conference in the nation but look at their track record when it comes to the playoffs.  Their champ makes it past the second round and then gets their butts kicked by the #1 seed.  It doesn't matter who playes Mt. Union, St. John's, Linfield, etc. they're going to get clobbered.  D3 is similar to NAIA; alot of good teams but when it comes to playoffs there is a major drop off from the top 5 to the rest.

[fsufan]

It is really refreshing to know that other people are worrying about the important issues in the IBC (championships, title runs, post season wins, all conference team, etc.). All we are looking for is a win!  GO CURF

[D3Somebody]

D3douchebag (somebody)....Yes it's going to be a long season, but here's the deal on BU:

1. Nobody recruited for the program this year after the coach was fired until March 1st.

2. Team has few returning players. Most of the roster consists of underclassmen. Keep in mind they were 1-9 last year with those players.

3. Key injuries...especially the freshman QB who has shown some spark, RB and a host of others.

4. First 3 games versus tough competition. 2 of them against nationally ranked teams.

I'm sorry but making a statement that they should fold the program is a tad ignorant. It's impossible to turn a program around in one season considering how it has deteriorated over the last few years. You can't blame the coaching staff with what they've been given to work with. Give BU a couple years. Plus, let's see how they do against weaker IBFC teams.

1) Other teams have dealt with it and not lost their first 3 games by an average of about 30 points

2) What's your point? They were 1-9 with underclassmen last year, and they are on pace to go 0-10. Do you honestly think you(you're certainly a BU player) are going to win any games this year? You need to score points to win games. And if you don't score points, you need a good defense(which you don't, giving up 150 points in 3 games).

3) Don't pull the injury card out...every team has injuries, BU isn't the only team. No excuses.

4) Tough competition? Sure...NCC and Carthage can play, but Elmhurst? They are at the bottom of the CCIW

Making the statement that administration should fold the program is smart. Give me ONE, that's all i'm asking, ONE good reason why they should not fold the program. And I'm sick and tired of people like you blaming BU's records on coaching changes. "Give them a couple of years"...well it's been 4 years since Hand left, and all losing records. How many years is a couple? 10, 20?

"Let's see how they do against weaker teams"....YOU ARE THE WEAKEST TEAM IN THE CONFERENCE. There is nobody weaker than you!

BU won't win a game this year. This is the 0-10 season that will shut the door on the program(or at least it should). Lakeland, Mac, Conc-Wisc will beat them by 40-50 points each. Aurora will by at least 3 TD's. Eureka and Greenville will win by 2-3 TD'S. And CURF will cap their season by winning by a solid 10 points. You heard it hear first.

[aufb05]

D3Nobody sounds like Fat Pongo to me. Go for kid run down your team the rest of couldn't care less, that proavly goes for you team.

[D3Somebody]

D3Nobody sounds like Fat Pongo to me. Go for kid run down your team the rest of couldn't care less, that proavly goes for you team.

Run down my team? I have no association with Benedictine Football at all. Don't be upset that I was right...and that you back up BU football simply because it has a coach from AU on it now. Last year you wouldn't have said a word to back up BU. Why now?

[Gomer Pyle]

  The IBFC shook out like it was supposed to this past sat, 9/24.
  The best game from a pure football stand-point was  Eureka/ Concordia,Ill.
  It`s early yet but i wouldn`t be surprised to see
  a different than "expected" team at the top of the conference at the end of the season. Time will tell.
   

[aufb05]

D3wantabe-

BU won't win a game this year. This is the 0-10 season that will shut the door on the program(or at least it should). Lakeland, Mac, Conc-Wisc will beat them by 40-50 points each.

Conference Week 1 - Lake final over Ben - 38 points

[Big_Uns]

Shut the door on the program? Yes, the team is definitely no good now, but the facilities BU now has will bring in recruits sometime in the near future. The Sports Complex is hands down one of the finest facilities in D3.

[D3Somebody]

D3wantabe-

BU won't win a game this year. This is the 0-10 season that will shut the door on the program(or at least it should). Lakeland, Mac, Conc-Wisc will beat them by 40-50 points each.

Conference Week 1 - Lake final over Ben - 38 points

Pretty good huh? I was only 2 points off.

[footballfan05]

BU dropping its program would be absolutely stupid.  And by the way CURF has had just as little sucess as BU latley so why shouldnt they drop their program some people here obviously have it out for BU.  I f you remeber correctly it was CURF that was 0-10 last year even though BU was 1-9.  And BU has obviously decided to make a commitment to football with the building of a sports complex that is better than any field in conference for sure and is one of the top in the nation. This in its self along with Jon Coopers reputation will bring in recruits.  Just look at the improvement from last year, a Lakeland offense that put 70 some points on them last year was held off for 2 quarters after putting up 24 points (If i remember correctly Lakeland returned 8 staters on O). The final score of this game really should have been 38-7 because of a late fumble on a KOR it was 45.  But for someone to say they should just drop the program is completley ignorant. Just because a team has a few bad years with some coaching changes (I'm not saying this is why they arent sucessful) is no reason to drop a program that in the late 90's was competitive in the conference. Rather they are rebuilding the program when you do only return a small amount of players you cant expect a team to immediately beat teams such as carthage, ncc, or lakelan