FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference

7400West · September 14, 2006, 12:14:13 AM

Quote from: curfalum1 on September 13, 2006, 11:08:04 AM
It appears that the coaching machine of CURF met their match. Beating the Beavers was NOT a great victory. CURF acted like they won the Superbowl. For all you Coach Conwell bashers you deserve what you get. CURF is going to struggle this year. The program is in bad shape and some small time high school coach is not going to bring it back. Coach Hynes was a main reason for the demise of the program. Recruit all the Lutherans you want, play games w/ the players, be buddy w/ the kids. What you need to do is recruit quality players and not take any advice form Jeff Hynes. I am afraid you will lose more games like Saturday - enjoy!

Quote from: baseman201 on September 13, 2006, 01:19:24 PM
Curfalum-

Damn, I agree with BluPhi, what's your problem?

The truth is they are in better shape than with Hynes or Conwell, the numbers speak for themselves. At least they have the first important part down to rebuilding a team, getting players to the school. The 2nd part is making them stay, which has been the issue there the in past years.

You can get quality players from Lutheran high schools, I bet CUWs team is made up mostly of players who went to Lutheran high schools, (and if not then I apologize). All 10 Concordias are all Lutheran private universities and most of the students come from private Lutheran schools. Look what CUW has done thus far, it can be done getting quality players from private high schools. Now, you just need to be able to find the quality ones, that was conwells big issue.

Anyhow, I am not saying CUC will win 9 games, but give them a chance, it's early in the year, plus they have 1 more win already then last year, IT'S A START!!!!!

Curfalum and Baseman,

Curfalum you need to relax...where you just sitting at home waiting for the team to lose. Hynes did a great job and moved on. He did cause a truck load of problems when he left. Conwell is a great coach, just not a head Coach. Coach Pries is a breat of fresh air. the freshist, being a High School Coach. Let us not forget that the team was 0-20 with conwell. you can not be a coach with that record. I dont care what the reason is. You have to look at it as a buisness. no school is going to stick with a coach for more than two years winnless. you make no gains from that. Pries got some players. good ones? maybe...maybe not but he got the numbers to start something. he came to a team with 18 player who have lost every game. 5 of fewer remember winning A game in College. Now they have the making of some Tradition. "Rome was not built in a DAY! or two games into the season.

Baseman, CUW has talent and mostly from out of state. Look at the roster. Alot to the guys are from Florda. that takes money and that is what CUW has put in to program. recruting is only as good as the school lets it be. CUC is just starting to see that. But CUW has been doing it for a long time. Luthern or not, players go to good teams. CUW wins some and they will get better every year. you dont get blue chips for 0-10 season. Both you and Curfalum should know that!

Give CUC a chace, Love them and Support them, This is mainly for Curf alum.
Baseman I know you love em and support em!!

FatalImpact · September 14, 2006, 01:04:34 AM

Quote from: maddog8 on September 13, 2006, 10:39:27 PM
Reeno, Bobby Langston is by far the most dominate player on the defensive side of the ball this year, Quit frankly he may be a NFL prospect with his size and dominace, just because he had only four takles and 2 sacks tells me that this ranked team they played ran the other way. I personaly think he is the best the IBFC has this year not to say that there are not others deserving for there efforts. He will be the player of the year at the end I called this way back in Jan. I have no reason to pick him other than that he is the best!!!!!. Besides, you can't say that because he is playing D3 he is not worthy. Ryan played DII his first year and Dominated the IBFC when he transfered and had his opportunities. of course his OL was responsible for his award. He clearly admitted that, you yourself should have played at the DII level, my feeling is you dominated at receiver because you played D3 and not DII. There are some very good D3 players out there including your St. Mary boy.. Mark my words Langston is the real deal. Just MADDOGS, opinion.

Now maddog dont take this the wrong way....your son only "dominated" his senior season, Unless he was a recent transfer for just his senior season....which I'm almost positive he wasnt (my apologies if I'm worong), but this was their first outright conference championship, with CUW winning it the year before....(though not out right) Aurora won it the year before that (by only dropping one game to your muskies by one point thanks to the kicker) so thats not really domination......Not to take anything away from Ryan he is a phenomanal athlete

Gomer Pyle · September 14, 2006, 08:33:30 AM

To all you CUC fans out there: I congratulate CUC on it`s victory as they
have long been the door-mat in the IBC. I`ve said in the past they (CUC)
show up every week ready to play. That`s hard to do when your getting
pasted but they do it. My hat is off to the players (past and present) who
have played for CUC. ....................Con,Ill.
The experience of playing college ball will long out live the losses, along
with the memories and friendships but the fact remains that CUC is not
very good.
Div-3, "Around the Nation" had them listed as the 228th ranked team in all of D-3 and there are what, 230 plus or minus teams over-all?
This is not intended to diminish their victory but rather to keep it in
perspective.
A winning streak streaks starts with(1). Good luck to them .

Gomer Pyle · September 14, 2006, 08:47:23 AM

Quote from: Pat Coleman on September 13, 2006, 07:39:06 PM
Langston was not on our All-Region team, but he would have had a shot if his school had nominated him.

There is no doubt in my mind that more than a "few" guys have missed out on "recognition" of some kind or other thru out the years due to the
lack of ATTENTION to DETAILS by some SID`s in the IBC.
You only get one bite at the apple. Too bad "others " have control.

Gomer Pyle · September 14, 2006, 09:01:40 AM

Maddog:

Hey Mel, No wonder your in good form........ the Yankees are in first place
in the East, now to take the smile of your face.........LC gets the "L".
After last weeks game ( i should know better than listen to you) i`m
going with a sure thing.

Gomer Pyle · September 14, 2006, 10:53:02 AM

Picks for the week-end of Sept 16th.
Gomer likes................
(1) Bu vs North Central.............North Central gets the "W"
(2) CUC vs Rose-Hulman.............Rose Hulman gets the :W"
(3) CUW vs Wis Luthern..............CUW gets the "W"
(4) Eureka vs Noth Park...........Eureka gets the "W"
(5) Greenville vs Taylor...............Greenville gets the "W"
(6) LC vs Oshkosh.......Oshkosh gets the "W"
* (7) Mac: I know they have a bye this week and that`s a good thing as
their Total Offense, "average per play"( as of 9/11) is just ...............2
yds. Plus it looks like they have a QB by commitee going on.
Mac may be in for a long season. IMO.

bufan · September 14, 2006, 12:08:55 PM

Fatal, no he did not play both ways. He didnt start becoming noticed until conference really cause we didnt change the offense to that style until about week 3/4. He ran that offense in high school so he was pretty accustomed to it.

baseman201 · September 14, 2006, 02:26:33 PM

I don't know who it was but someone said that if they were such a good athlete then why are they playing in D-III.

This may not happen often but there are a small handful of D-III players who could play D-I but maybe they decide not to. At a D-I school so much work goes into football they really have no time for anything else, it's 24/7 all year round football. Not saying it's not like that at some D-III schools but most D-I players have dreams of being in the NFL. About 2 or 3 D-III players will sign free agent contracts and most of the time will get cut or be on the practice squad (Blake Elliott St. Johns) then get cut. Anyhow, the point is maybe some of the talented ones don't want to play in those D-I schools and want to have time for other things. They want to play at the D-III level because it's a little more layed back and the competition isn't so great.

Also, there was D-I talent in D-III last year, does Brett Elliot ring a bell? He beat out Alex Smith at Utah before he had his injury problems and transferred in to Linfield. If he is good enough to beat out Alex Smith who was a first round pick......think about it.

Maddog you say the D Lineman (not using his name) from CUW is an NFL prospect? Maybe he looks good because he is playing D-III schools, how do you think he would do at USC, Texas or any D-I A school for that matter? Probably wouldn't even start as a senior. This is why D-III is so great, the majority of the players aren't talented enough or just don't want to spend all their lives dedicated to football at the D-I level. If they really had the talent and wanted to play D-I football they would be there.

And if a player had dreams of being in the NFL they certainly wouldn't attend a D-III school.

Now don't misunderstand me, a few D-III players do sign NFL contracts each year.

7400West · September 14, 2006, 03:20:32 PM

Quote from: baseman201 on September 14, 2006, 02:26:33 PM
I don't know who it was but someone said that if they were such a good athlete then why are they playing in D-III.

This may not happen often but there are a small handful of D-III players who could play D-I but maybe they decide not to. At a D-I school so much work goes into football they really have no time for anything else, it's 24/7 all year round football. Not saying it's not like that at some D-III schools but most D-I players have dreams of being in the NFL. About 2 or 3 D-III players will sign free agent contracts and most of the time will get cut or be on the practice squad (Blake Elliott St. Johns) then get cut. Anyhow, the point is maybe some of the talented ones don't want to play in those D-I schools and want to have time for other things. They want to play at the D-III level because it's a little more layed back and the competition isn't so great.

Also, there was D-I talent in D-III last year, does Brett Elliot ring a bell? He beat out Alex Smith at Utah before he had his injury problems and transferred in to Linfield. If he is good enough to beat out Alex Smith who was a first round pick......think about it.

Maddog you say the D Lineman (not using his name) from CUW is an NFL prospect? Maybe he looks good because he is playing D-III schools, how do you think he would do at USC, Texas or any D-I A school for that matter? Probably wouldn't even start as a senior. This is why D-III is so great, the majority of the players aren't talented enough or just don't want to spend all their lives dedicated to football at the D-I level. If they really had the talent and wanted to play D-I football they would be there.

And if a player had dreams of being in the NFL they certainly wouldn't attend a D-III school.

Now don't misunderstand me, a few D-III players do sign NFL contracts each year.

Just to add baseman,

reasons for a "possible" d1 in d3 could be more. An injury in high school, I know that my tackle in High School was a D1 prospect and now goes to loyola (No football!) broken leg in first game of the year. If there is lesser of and injury that could cause scouts to overlook or give up on. plus, self-ish ego's could play into. Bad attitudes, and just plain being overlooked or not knowing how good one self is could all be reason for D1 in D3!!

Off topic.
Lets go Coug's. they will be well rested and hungry for a win and also revenge (3erd time playing them!)

maddog8 · September 14, 2006, 07:50:36 PM

Forgive me but Pat Curian played 14 yrs for the SD Chargers, grad from Lakeland, Pete Metzallar one the NFL's best TE's played D3 and the list has more so please don't say that D 3 players don't play in the NFL. Maybe not many but then again about 10 yrs ago neither did DII players get NFL opportunities, today about 1/6 of the NFL players are from DII schools. Its about having HEART and TALENT, Langston has both, besides some players don't mature in high school as fast as others Langston could easily play D-1 football.

Gomer Lakeland will prevail this weekend and you will eat donkey s--t for your lam words

baseman201 · September 15, 2006, 12:34:06 AM

yeah, but how long ago was that Maddog?

Todd Black who played for CURF back in the early to mid 80s played for the Chicago Bears for a couple seasons as well.

I am not saying it's not done, just saying it is rare to have D-III players in the NFL. And yes, there are some D-II players who are tearing up the NFL.

And who is donthate, Langston?

baseman201 · September 15, 2006, 08:47:25 AM

Well apperently it doesn't matter anymore since he took down his post.

Mr. Tini · September 15, 2006, 08:57:35 AM

Reeno10 - There is a lot of football talent in D3 football. I myself played with three D1 caliber players. One played at Purdue and didn't like it. Another started at Indiana and tore his ACL. The third was getting looked at by Penn State but was not offered a scholarship because he was two inches too short. Other players, myself included, were never looked at by big programs because we are from very small communities. There are a lot of reasons why a player may not be in D1, but don't downplay Langstons ability just because he is a D3 player. Langston is a very good athelete and he controls the line of scrimmage. He is a D-lineman, he isn't supposed to make 100 tackles in a year. It's not his job.

7400West · September 15, 2006, 09:24:47 AM

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Why are we making a big deal about this guy Langston, If he is so good, GO D-I!! I really don't get it. I am betting that when he plays video games he puts it on the easiest setting just to win and beat up on the computer. Here is my Question to all the poster.

IF ANY OF YOU COULD GO D-1 FOR FREE WHY WOULD YOU NOT?

I really cant think of any reason.

If I had the chance to go to any D-I school i would go. even if i just got one offer or not even a full ride but partial it would be hard for me to say no. What is langstons major. Is it one only found at that school? I highly doubt it. If you got the talent you put it up against all the rest. You don't pick on D-3 schools. If donhate is Langston. Congrats you are awsome. But show your stuff to ND, MSU, or even NIU and they will eat you up. You are awsome in D-3 but that is not showing anyone anything.

Once again IF YOU ARE D-1 WHY PLAY D-3?

FalconsFootball · September 15, 2006, 11:22:05 AM

No one ever claimed he was D-1 they just said there are players like that. Do I sense a little hostility because he probably beat up on you at some point

? He is one of my very good friends and came to CUW for a few reasons. At no point has he built himself up on here (when he has the right to) so ya'll should really stop attacking him.