FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference

[Twisted2]

BUfan, 7400West, and baseman201

As a freshman (98) I played with two fifth year seniors from Mount Carmel.  These kids played with McNabb.  One guy was a o-tackle the other a tight end.  Skinny and Pete.  They were excellent football players.  They played @ Carmel 92 and 93.  They were pretty freakin' good back then.  I played with two kids from there 98 team.  A d-tackle (Buffano) and some other kid who quite a couple weeks in.  They showed their highlight tapes.  They told me where all their boys were playing and they agreed that there was no way, man for man, they could touch our team.  Yeah, we were pretty good back then but my point remains, study the o-lines and d-lines.  Watch how basic the offense is and how simple the defense is set up.  I'm not saying their isn't tremendous high school coaches I just don't think the high school kids retain as much as the college athlete.  The systems are much, much simpler.  What would happen if Langston lined up across from Dan Doering (Barington) or Dace Richardson (Warrenville South) when those kids were in high school.  He would own them because he has been playing against better players.  By the way, those kids are both doing well for the Hawkeys.  They were the #1 and #3 ranked o-lineman last year.  They guys next to them couldn't phathem blocking a kid like Langston or that allien that plaed d-end for Lakeland last year.  What was that kids deal!??!?  He was a freak of nature.  Now I'm ramblin'.  Back to my point: Those kids couldn't move there feet with him.  Show me a corner in high school that could cover up White or Folliad or even Sergo.  They can't, not yet.

Another problem that I'm seeing is that we are comparing some of the worst teams ever essembled in college football (EC 00-06, CUC 00' 01' 02' 03' 04', Blackburn and BU 04') history.  Again, I do not count these teams as college ball clubs.  05' Spartans( middle of the pack IBFC) do not loose to any high school team.  I can't believe I have had to argue this point.  Men vs. boys.  The senior (stars) are still just kids!!  18 years old at the MOST!! 

Alright, lets just say "Ya know what, The Truth, your right, your always right on stuff like this, and pretty much everything.  Thanks so much for all the knowledge.  Your a really great guy for taking the time out of your busy day and setting me straight."

Your welcome in advance
The Truth

p.s.  Maddog, help me out hear.  Da One, you've been around the game a minute.  You've been around some good players, you've seen some great high school kids.  Share the knowledge.  These kids just don't know bout that grown man strength.  Think of Ryan the senior in high school, fast as hell, rocket for an arm.  Didn't quite understand how to use these skills.  Ryan the senior at Lakeland.  Yeah, share the knowledge.

[mac_5_seven]

7400,

How can you sit there and say that CUC always plays Mac well?  I was a Freshman there in '93 and since then don't ever recall getting beat by them.  Hell since '99 they have outscored 'em 348-60!  I know there is a little bit of a resurgence there in River Forrest and that Mac is in the crapper right now, but I just don't see CUC pulling off the W this weekend..

[Reeno10]

yea so MAC 0-4 thats awesome way to go guys, larry just know when u come home to LAKE MARY i will have 2 rings on my hand and u wont have anything sucks bro but hey one of us has to shine  hahah u know ur my boy,


CUW  over AU....i will take CUW in anygame against the conference they were my favorite team to play against   35-17

CUC over MAC 20-7 lol #9 and 22 better have a game

LC over EU 33-14

Greenville over BU 35-10
until next time have a good weekend and be safe to all

[7400West]

BUfan, 7400West, and baseman201

As a freshman (98) I played with two fifth year seniors from Mount Carmel.  These kids played with McNabb.  One guy was a o-tackle the other a tight end.  Skinny and Pete.  They were excellent football players.  They played @ Carmel 92 and 93.  They were pretty freakin' good back then.  I played with two kids from there 98 team.  A d-tackle (Buffano) and some other kid who quite a couple weeks in.  They showed their highlight tapes.  They told me where all their boys were playing and they agreed that there was no way, man for man, they could touch our team.  Yeah, we were pretty good back then but my point remains, study the o-lines and d-lines.  Watch how basic the offense is and how simple the defense is set up.  I'm not saying their isn't tremendous high school coaches I just don't think the high school kids retain as much as the college athlete.  The systems are much, much simpler.  What would happen if Langston lined up across from Dan Doering (Barington) or Dace Richardson (Warrenville South) when those kids were in high school.  He would own them because he has been playing against better players.  By the way, those kids are both doing well for the Hawkeys.  They were the #1 and #3 ranked o-lineman last year.  They guys next to them couldn't phathem blocking a kid like Langston or that allien that plaed d-end for Lakeland last year.  What was that kids deal!??!?  He was a freak of nature.  Now I'm ramblin'.  Back to my point: Those kids couldn't move there feet with him.  Show me a corner in high school that could cover up White or Folliad or even Sergo.  They can't, not yet.

Another problem that I'm seeing is that we are comparing some of the worst teams ever essembled in college football (EC 00-06, CUC 00' 01' 02' 03' 04', Blackburn and BU 04') history.  Again, I do not count these teams as college ball clubs.  05' Spartans( middle of the pack IBFC) do not loose to any high school team.  I can't believe I have had to argue this point.  Men vs. boys.  The senior (stars) are still just kids!!  18 years old at the MOST!! 

Alright, lets just say "Ya know what, The Truth, your right, your always right on stuff like this, and pretty much everything.  Thanks so much for all the knowledge.  Your a really great guy for taking the time out of your busy day and setting me straight."

Your welcome in advance
The Truth

p.s.  Maddog, help me out hear.  Da One, you've been around the game a minute.  You've been around some good players, you've seen some great high school kids.  Share the knowledge.  These kids just don't know bout that grown man strength.  Think of Ryan the senior in high school, fast as hell, rocket for an arm.  Didn't quite understand how to use these skills.  Ryan the senior at Lakeland.  Yeah, share the knowledge.

I don't care what you "think" a college team is and is not!! The FACT is that CUC, EC, Moody Bible, are all colleges!!!! CUC is a University!!!! Who cares how good the team is they are NOT HIGH SCHOOL!!!!

Also, the #1 and #3 ranked olineman in High School would be able to block Langston, no problem. Langston is a d3 player. I don't see his name on the cover of D3football.com nor did I see him when he was in high school, I could have missed him but I like seeing high school players and where they go to college and what happens. I love the sport that much! If you are number 1-10 ranked O-lineman you are going to have something in you that makes you that good and it is the ability to BLOCK OTHERS! Including Langston!!! End of story!!

And I will give you credit when you start making sense!!


Now on to Mac5seven!,

          Three years ago we played mac at home and were stopped on a crucial 4th and one play, after that the team(curf) had a bad way of going in the tank as any poor team would!

           Two years ago, Curf and the worst team in years and went over to Jackson to play on the worst field in college and had a great day in comparison to the season, we played better against you then BU or EC that year!!!

           Last year, the team was a hair away from being just as bad and for the first half were right along side you.

I am not looking 10 years in the past I am looking at recent history, I don't look that far in the past because before I came to college I did not even know what the IBFC was. All I know is what I have seen!!!Mac loses this one because of the way they play they don't deserve to win, nor do they deserve to have any all conf. players at the end of the year because of the way they play and are coached to play!

Good Luck all teams and Go cougars!!!!!

Congrats to Jason Weeks and Chris Tepen for POTW honors of this week!!!! They deserve it!!!!!

[mac_5_seven]

7400 -

Did you shed a little tear after your last post?  Nice enthusiasm! 

Let me ask you this, did CURF win any of those games you just described? 

[baseman201]

I do agree Mac has the worst field I have ever seen in my entire life.  Need to do something about that over there.

Filling the holes with rubber pieces just doesn't cut it.  At least that's what they did when we played them back in 2004.  Who knows what they do now, maybe they actually grew some grass??

Though, Eurekas field does slope and has a trailer park on one end, that could take the prize for worst field in D-III.

[Gomer Pyle]

  Gomers picks for this week-end, 10/7.

  (1) CU-C vs Mac:   Mac  again has has no "O" line as evident their 2.5 yds average per offensive play. They give up 4.8 yds per play to the opposition. Looks like the "D" is suspect as well.
   Mac is done, put a fork in them
   CU-C on the other hand, has shown signs of life and has won a couple of games.  They believe and so do i. 
   CU-C will get a big win for their program.
  (2)  CU-W vs AU:  Au, a once really good program, is falling fast while
   CU-W is on top of it`s game.
   CU-W takes it to AU and gets the "W".
  (3)  Greenville Vs BU:  Best game this week....IMO.  Both teams are looking
    up and a win by either will help solidify the advancement of their football program.  Toss up!
   (4) Lakeland vs Eureka:  What can you say? Lakeland will feast on poor
   EC. 
     With all the talk of them dominating the IBC with their NFL players  and getting trounced by some really good teams, LC will now get to show all
    how good they really are........ Beating up on Eureka.
    A hollow victory but a victory none the less.

   
   
   
   
     
   
   

[mac_5_seven]

I do agree Mac has the worst field I have ever seen in my entire life.  Need to do something about that over there.

Filling the holes with rubber pieces just doesn't cut it.  At least that's what they did when we played them back in 2004.  Who knows what they do now, maybe they actually grew some grass??

Though, Eurekas field does slope and has a trailer park on one end, that could take the prize for worst field in D-III.

If you think Mac's field is bad now, try palying on it for 4 years when it was off campus.  The field was nothing but clover and weeds and by the end of the year you would think we were a sandlot team.   Better off to wear tennis shoes instead of spikes..

[Da One]

Twisted2,
  I started the argument that some HS teams could beat lower level D3 teams.  I am talking about top HS teams.  You are right about "grown man" strength.  What you forget is some kids get grown man strength at 16.  I think back to my days at AU when we won 21 straight in the IBC.  We had guys on our team that were studs.  Some of these studs couldn't bench 225lbs.  When I was recruiting in Fla.  I met kids who were benching in the 300's, and they were skill position guys.  On top of that, these were the guys on the team that didn't get the scholarship offers.  I would take Oaks Christain over Eureka all day. 
  I don't know if the top o-line man in HS would be able to block Langston.  Is there a player like Langston on CUC or Eureka? 
  I made the statement hoping to help the CUC fans keep their victory over Eureka in perspective.  Yes, thinks are changing at CUC.  However they are a long long way from being a "good" D3 team.

[Reeno10]

yea somebody at MAC didnt know how to order field turf that was what we were suppose to get not grass with rubber and i played at MAC and to me the field was terriable it was nice that we finally had a on campus field the stands are nice but the field it self was not nice, the old field was sick to but hey we got the job done at both fields, #9 win a game for once lol... everything at MAC is not good all there fields suck

[baseman201]

haha, well I guess that answers my question.

Sure you may have filled holes with rubber and had a field that looked like a playground/sandlot, but at least it was flat and didn't slope like at Eureka.  One side is running uphill while the other is running downhill. 

You would think someone in the Reagan family would give some money to actually have a good field.......or just build a brand new school, cause damn.....that whole town is a ****hole

No offense though.

[7400West]

baseman, you call the town a ****hole and then say "no offense" hahahahaha,

that made me laugh!!!

out of EC and Mac for worst field, Mac took this title!!

the rubber holes with real grass and the fact that you ahve to walk a mile from the locker room does not make it the best place to play! But that could be and advantage if you think about it.

EC's field did slope and it was funny kicking extra points into a trailer park! I also think we scored only going down hill most of time, but we did not score that much int the past.

If CUC beats Mac this weekend it will be the first time in a long time CUC has beaten a conf. team other then EC or BU in years. I dont even know how long!!

Good Luck and I am pulling for you!!

[Da One]

I have a scar on my back from diving for a pass at Mac back in 2000.  I use to call that crappy field "astro dirt."  In 2004, I went to the AU/Mac game.  They moved the field, but the new one was just as bad as the old one.  It has a little more grass, but it holds water and gets torn up fast.  In my opinion the field fits perfectly in Jacksonville "the armpit of Illinois."

[mac_5_seven]

Yeah J-ville sucked, but we made the most of it.  However, if you traveled about a mile up College Avenue to where Illinois College is, you wouldn't even think you were in the same city...

Talk about "astro dirt," you should see what we had to practice on...

[Reeno10]

lets face it the pratice field was ****ty when it rained it got all muddy and when that mud dirt it was like we were praticing on concrete but it made us tough thats why we won the conference back to back but yea mac is just a dump in itself and EC field that was funny playing with the trailor park right behind,but hey at least we had somewhere to play football.u guys think CUW can go 10-0 this year an dmaybe get our conference its first win in the playoffs... GO MAC #9 #22